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iPhone Apple DOES Slow Down Older iPhones [MERGED]

For those who participated in the beta, did it run better that the GM?(differences in speed/battery)

  • Yes, betas were better.

    Votes: 54 24.8%

  • No, same performance, or GM is better.

    Votes: 164 75.2%
  • Total voters
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Radon87000 said:
The adoption rates say it all.
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There's no doubt planned obsolescence exists but people keep denying it.
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You’ve been going on for at least three years about planned obsolescence as being fact but you’ve never once provided proof. And no, you saying “because X happens and because I think it’s related to planned obsolescence” does not make it fact or proof. It’s just an opinion and based off the vast majority of your comments over the years, an opinion based off your hatred to anything Apple does.
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Radon87000 said:
That doesn’t prove anything. Benchmarks will be the same on the same hardware but real world usage says otherwise.
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If hardware is hardware, then how can benchmark score change update to update (even beta to beta)

The hardware is being controlled by the OS.
 
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Since I updated my 6Plus to IOS 11 startup takes noticeably longer, maddening lag when opening camera, noticeable lag between time I take a photo and the camera responds, and battery life is a lot worse. No such problems on my 2nd G iPad Pro 12.9.
 
Hawaiian Starman said:
Since I updated my 6Plus to IOS 11 startup takes noticeably longer, maddening lag when opening camera, noticeable lag between time I take a photo and the camera responds, and battery life is a lot worse. No such problems on my 2nd G iPad Pro 12.9.
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Such a shocker that older hardware is showing its age and a brand new current Gen iPad isn’t.
 
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iSayBoourns said:
You’ve been going on for at least three years about planned obsolescence as being fact but you’ve never once’s provided proof. And no, you saying “because X happens and because I think it’s related to planned obsolescence” does not make it fact or proof. It’s just an opinion and based off the vast majority of your comments over the years, an opinion based off your hatred to anything Apple does.
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See the tons of YouTube videos on the topic showing how year old devices are slowed down y7 new software. My 7 Plus benches the same on iOS 11 but I know it's slower.

If hardware is hardware, then how can benchmark score change update to update (even beta to beta)

The hardware is being controlled by the OS.
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Fluctuates within a a margin of error.
 
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JohnnyW2K1 said:
How do you explain the video above?
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The CPUs are two generations apart (SE has A9, 5S has A7).
Memory is different (SE 2GB, 5S 1GB).
That'll mean graphics rendering is a lot slower for the new iOS which optimised for the latest.
SE is pretty much the same as the 6S. Doing an iOS 9 vs 10 vs 11 comparison would of been fairer on the same device.

Also, it's an unfair test doing the manual touch tests as he cannot ever guarantee both were pressed at the same time. It's not Apple slows down the phones on purpose. It's progression and optimisation the latest OS that will make older hardware play catch up (iOS is pushed graphically to enhance the user experience). Don't get this obsession of a myth that can be explained logically.
 
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But OMG Youtbue said so, so it MUST be true! 100% of people on Youtube are honest and not clickbait for views to make $$$$!!! :rolleyes:
 
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Suckfest 9001 said:
Why? just cause you disagree? lol, oh yeah in that case, not a valid source at all :rolleyes:
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Well, for starters, it's a complete RAG. Was on it for many years. And it's still just as trash as it's always been.
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stulaw11 said:
Except BGR links to actual tests and data, may want to trying reading what they say before judging
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I've spent enough years on it to judge. It's a trash site.
 
ilovemykid3302012 said:
I wouldn't use BGR as a valid source of anything, JMO.
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ilovemykid3302012 said:
Well, for starters, it's a complete RAG. Was on it for many years. And it's still just as trash as it's always been.
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I've spent enough years on it to judge. It's a trash site.
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Because one user opinion doesn't contribute to anything more "unreliable" based off what you're saying. The argument goes both ways. You have managed to deflect away from what everybody else was indicating because your self imposed view point doesn't translate to others who conflict with your own. Nice attempt at refuting though.
 
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Radon87000 said:
See the tons of YouTube videos on the topic showing how year old devices are slowed down y7 new software. My 7 Plus benches the same on iOS 11 but I know it's slower.


Fluctuates within a a margin of error.
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You "know it's slower"? My that sounds so scientific. Apple needs to come to you for advice asap. I just don't why you bother with Apple products. Your incessant whining about Apple hasn't changed in years. On my iPhone 7 Plus, iOS 11.1 Beta 2 is smooth as silk. I am very pleased with performance, stability and all the new features and security fixes built into iOS 11. And since it is beta, I am confident it will mature as future updates are released. Try that with even current Android devices.
 
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Agent2015 said:
You "know it's slower"? My that sounds so scientific. Apple needs to come to you for advice asap. I just don't why you bother with Apple products. Your incessant whining about Apple hasn't changed in years. On my iPhone 7 Plus, iOS 11.1 Beta 2 is smooth as silk. I am very pleased with performance, stability and all the new features and security fixes built into iOS 11. And since it is beta, I am confident it will mature as future updates are released. Try that with even current Android devices.
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Just like people "know" the Lochness monster and Bigfoot exist, Nirubu is going to appear and destroy earth any day now (how many times this year now lol), and Osama Bin Laden is really CIA plant Tim Osman and died in December 2011 while the US government manufactured terrorism until his "faked death" by the SEALs.

Lots of wild conspiracy theories out there that are based on crazy beliefs and zero fact.

There is not one stitch of evidence or code for yet another year to support this conspiracy theory. But wasting breath continuing trying to convince people is purely a waste of time; same as every year yet continue to not move to over platforms conveniently.
 
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Came here from todays wired.com article about slowing down iPhones. There are some years since Ive had an iPhone. I believe my last was a 5S. I currently own a iPad pro 9.7 with the A10x chip. And it worked perfectly in the iOS 11 beta. I believe I saw very few animation glitches and skipped frames. After release though? I seem to be noticing them a lot more. All subjective of course, not benchmarked. But on iOS 10, this iPad did feel powerful. Now it feels less so, even with out using heavy multitasking. And the A10x is still pretty powerfull when compaired to the phones.

I do feel this is strange, the A10x chip is a power horse. I dont understand why it cant keep up with iOS animations? I would be happy with out animations (like in the youtube vid on page one).

Its the same or worse on Android. So this is not flaming by any means. I remember when windows 8 came, it had a lower requirement than the last os (vista). So MS actually did the good thing and optimized the OS to also work well on lower powered devices. Apple has it relatively easy with this job, since their HW line is so simple. I am disapointed that animation lag is still a thing in 2017.

BenTrovato said:
I agree as well. If you've been iOS long enough, it's obvious it slows down. Philosophy might change with the X though. A phone that expensive will be expected to last which might be evidenced by the big jump in performance in the A11. They may be giving it that 3-4 year headroom people would expect from a $1000 device. Just speculation though.
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Looking at Apples history, when every device is leading in price. I dont think so. iPhone X will have animation hick-ups when iOS 12 is launced.
 
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I really have hard time believing that a new iOS can slow down older phones so drastically. I mean even opening the camera app on my Iphone 6 takes time like i was back on 4.
 
PaulKemp said:
Came here from todays wired.com article about slowing down iPhones. There are some years since Ive had an iPhone. I believe my last was a 5S. I currently own a iPad pro 9.7 with the A10x chip. And it worked perfectly in the iOS 11 beta. I believe I saw very few animation glitches and skipped frames. After release though? I seem to be noticing them a lot more. All subjective of course, not benchmarked. But on iOS 10, this iPad did feel powerful. Now it feels less so, even with out using heavy multitasking. And the A10x is still pretty powerfull when compaired to the phones.

I do feel this is strange, the A10x chip is a power horse. I dont understand why it cant keep up with iOS animations? I would be happy with out animations (like in the youtube vid on page one).

Its the same or worse on Android. So this is not flaming by any means. I remember when windows 8 came, it had a lower requirement than the last os (vista). So MS actually did the good thing and optimized the OS to also work well on lower powered devices. Apple has it relatively easy with this job, since their HW line is so simple. I am disapointed that animation lag is still a thing in 2017.



Looking at Apples history, when every device is leading in price. I dont think so. iPhone X will have animation hick-ups when iOS 12 is launced.
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The only way to escape the Apple lag completely is to buy a new device every year. It will never run as fast as how it used to on the original OS it shipped with. With all this marketing hoopla about the A11 Bionic, only to be crapped on next year by iOS 12 with delays and stutters making it look like a midrange Android phone. My second gen 2017 iPad Pro 12.9 will stay on iOS 10 because I don't care about the productivity features to lose he smoothness of the device by upgrading to iOS 11. 4 times Apple has tried to trick me into upgrading by downloading iOS 11 in the background without my permission and popping up the update box which is so easy to press okay and enter into LagOS 11 but I shall persevere. You are not ruining my iPad Apple and I will fight your update prompts if it's the last thing I do.
 
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Radon87000 said:
The adoption rates say it all.
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There's no doubt planned obsolescence exists but people keep denying it.
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I’m leaning towards the X but the whole “face scan recognition” thing kinda creeps me out... why have facial recognition when a thumb Print worked incredibly well! I don’t need big brother looking in on me... idk, maybe I’m just being stupid and paranoid.. any thoughts on this ?? I’d love to hear others opinions about the new Facial recognition for the IPhone X
 
Louiesp said:
I’m leaning towards the X but the whole “face scan recognition” thing kinda creeps me out... why have facial recognition when a thumb Print worked incredibly well! I don’t need big brother looking in on me... idk, maybe I’m just being stupid and paranoid.. any thoughts on this ?? I’d love to hear others opinions about the new Facial recognition for the IPhone X
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For the 1000th time, nobody is looking at your face. The face recognition system does not store your image or anything of that nature.
 
If Apple were trying to cripple older devices than the 7 Plus would not be faster on IOS 11.1 Beta 2...

The only renaming issue I have is the home button delay.
 
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