Apple Fans how do you defend yourselves after seeing this.......

[mib1800]

What your talking about is file syncing which is half the solution.

If you truly want it to be similar you need something more than simple could file syncing. You need your media manager to look at specific folders in your cloud and import photos. The integration with the fily syncing is what makes the difference and the fact that the user has to do nothing other than log in and turn it on once.

And like I said there really is nothing comparable to airdrop between iOS & macOS.

No idea what you are saying but seems like an unnecessary complications of what is essentially a cloud storage. Same can be said about airdrop which is just the proprietary version of wifi direct.

For me who wants to leave things simple. I open the phone's file manager. The phone internal storage, my onedrive and gdrive cloud storages are visible together. I navigate to a file, click on a file and optionally select which app to use, edit and save. If that file is from the cloud storage, it automatically updates back to cloud. For photos in phone, I just set them to auto upload to a folder in my OneDrive. Using same phone file manager I can move files between phone internal storage and cloud storages. I can also share from here.

 

[allthingsapple!]

I love and own apple but this hurts. I don't see how iPhone can be defended with this comparison.

simple...I like iOS. Nothing to defend.

 

[macfacts]

simple...I like iOS. Nothing to defend.

This thread isn't bashing iOS. The thread creator isn't saying Android is better. He isn't asking you to defend your iPhone purchase over a Android device. It's about iPhone (6s,7,8) vs iPhone X. How do you defend purchasing an iPhone X over an iPhone 6s/7/8.

iPhones are awesome. For this thread, let's asume that is the truth. Now here is the part that is the topic of this thread: the iPhone X = iPhone 8 + (hardware features found on old Android devices). All the features added to the iPhone X are things on old Android devices that don't cost $1000. How can you justify the cost increase.

From the off topic discussion about how iOS is better than Android, it is obvious it can't be justified. It is a luxury purchase, plain and simple. You're paying for the logo.

 

[flat five]

iPhone X = 7 characters
Galaxy S8 = 8 characters

 

[EdUniverse]

Honestly the new phones these days are all really good, it’s just personal preference. I personally don’t think iPhone screen resolutions really need to be higher than they are because I already can’t see the pixels even if I look really close on my iPhone. Same thing with the cameras. They’re all really good they each just take different looking pictures, not better or worse photos. Once again, personal preference. I personally like how iOS is entirely specifically made for the Apple devices, whereas other phones just take android and change it a bit. I do wish there was a few more customisation options in iOS, but I like everything else about it. This iPhone verse android thing is pretty old. Last thing. I don’t care about them taking away the headphone jack. The headphone wires break too much and also just generally get in the way. Bluetooth is the way to go

 

[redman042]

This thread isn't bashing iOS. The thread creator isn't saying Android is better. He isn't asking you to defend your iPhone purchase over a Android device. It's about iPhone (6s,7,8) vs iPhone X. How do you defend purchasing an iPhone X over an iPhone 6s/7/8.

iPhones are awesome. For this thread, let's asume that is the truth. Now here is the part that is the topic of this thread: the iPhone X = iPhone 8 + (hardware features found on old Android devices). All the features added to the iPhone X are things on old Android devices that don't cost $1000. How can you justify the cost increase.

From the off topic discussion about how iOS is better than Android, it is obvious it can't be justified. It is a luxury purchase, plain and simple. You're paying for the logo.

Apple vs Android cannot be boiled down to a simple comparison of features. It’s how well those features are implemented, the package they come in, the ecosystem, and the whole experience. Remember, a whole lot of people (me included) would pick an iPhone 8 over the latest Galaxy, or even the iPhone 7, for those reasons.

As for the pricing of the X, its market-based. Apple will sell all they can make at this price. And you’re going to hear lots of people raving about it one they have one. Yes they will probably grumble about the price a few times, but they will keep the phone, and enjoy the heck out of it. That’s justification enough for many.

 

[Closingracer]

2017 835 should be compared to the 2017 a11 bionic, which absolutely demolishes it.

How it's also older. Should be more compared to the upcoming 845. The 835 was announced in 2016 and the first phone with it was the Samsung Galaxy S8 which came in March. It will be funny to see the reactions of Apple fanboys if the 845 is faster lol.

 

[Closingracer]

It’s funny how everything is moot when your phone of choice doesn’t have the fastest processor.

It’s also not really a fraction of a second either.

No idea how a phone ui is inefficient.

Shooting 4K at 60fps is basic?
835 still can’t do that. A11 can.

It's also funny considering you will be doing the same should the 845 actually be "better" Lmao. It is a moot point. 98% of people just don't care. You think the Chinese care? They don't otherwise the iPhone would of sold better there. Tbh the only reason I like iPhones is the fact that it has a superior customer service, iMessage, and the fact it easily fits in with my Macbook and iPad. Other then that I can do the same thing with an Android phone. Most people don't care about the cpu as long as it's good enough for normal tasks.

 

[KavalierMalta]

You cannot compare a Samsung or any other Android smartphone with an iPhone. The build quality and iOS experience are nowhere near in the Android world.

Apple knows how to build a smartphone that will still function as it should even after a couple of years of usage. Try that with an Android phone.

Also, the support that you receive from Apple is great when it comes to updates. They will keep supporting their devices for many iOS versions.

 

[Diorama]

This thread isn't bashing iOS. The thread creator isn't saying Android is better. He isn't asking you to defend your iPhone purchase over a Android device. It's about iPhone (6s,7,8) vs iPhone X. How do you defend purchasing an iPhone X over an iPhone 6s/7/8.

iPhones are awesome. For this thread, let's asume that is the truth. Now here is the part that is the topic of this thread: the iPhone X = iPhone 8 + (hardware features found on old Android devices). All the features added to the iPhone X are things on old Android devices that don't cost $1000. How can you justify the cost increase.

From the off topic discussion about how iOS is better than Android, it is obvious it can't be justified. It is a luxury purchase, plain and simple. You're paying for the logo.

You don’t think you’re paying for the logo with Samsung?

 

[Closingracer]

You cannot compare a Samsung or any other Android smartphone with an iPhone. The build quality and iOS experience are nowhere near in the Android world.

Apple knows how to build a smartphone that will still function as it should even after a couple of years of usage. Try that with an Android phone.

Also, the support that you receive from Apple is great when it comes to updates. They will keep supporting their devices for many iOS versions.

You can't compare? You can't make a fact out of a subjective opinion. I love the built quality or the Note 8 over the iPhone 8 plus. I hate the top and bottom bezels where it actually made me get a 7 because it fitted better in my hands.

 

[eggbrother]

I love and own apple but this hurts. I don't see how iPhone can be defended with this comparison.

Iphone is mainly about the logo and fashion, tech part is not a big deal
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The the android world might well be laughing at Apple and Apple fans in general with the features android has had for years and now using samsungs displays but at the end of the day people buy what they want and Apple have a very loyal fan base who will buy anything that's put out..you buy what you enjoy

Iphone x/8 battery is from samsung too. Ho wait, the cpu too.

 

[Diorama]

Yeah the most powerful phone is all about the logo.

 

[FFR]

How it's also older. Should be more compared to the upcoming 845. The 835 was announced in 2016 and the first phone with it was the Samsung Galaxy S8 which came in March. It will be funny to see the reactions of Apple fanboys if the 845 is faster lol.

2017 is 2017.

845 is a 2018 chip, apple will have the a12 by then.

 

[0000757]

The chart is clearly just a circle jerk over numbers, and fails to take into account actual application. I don't usually partake in these discussions, but I'm bored in class so I'll break it down:

Thickness - The iPhone X has a larger battery, screen, and more internal hardware than the S6.
IP Certification - The Galaxy S6 has no IP certification and the S7 was advertised as gaining the water-resistance back
Camera - The camera sensor in the X is much more advanced than the S6, with a much superior ISP as well
Display - The iPhone has more PPI than the Galaxy S6,
Processor - Core numbers mean nothing. The iPhone 6s has higher theoretical and applied performance of the Exynos 7420. The A11 blows even the latest Exynos, Kirin, and Snapdragon processors, especially in the GPU and Single Core performance area. It's estimated the Snapdragon 845 will finally meet the Apple A9 in single core performance, and that's the highest end Snapdragon. By this logic, the 8 core CPU of the S6 should have more power than a quad-core i7 because it has more cores, which truly is not the case in any scenario.
RAM - Android devices usually have more RAM because the system demands it. iOS devices run smoother and more power efficient with less ram compared to the Android counterparts because the system isn't demanding. Android devices don't have 4,6, 8GB of RAM because its better, it has that much because it needs it for a solid experience.
Wi-Fi - The S6 doesn't support MIMO, and speaking of connections, it doesn't support LTE-A, 256 QAM, nor does it support Bluetooth 5.0.
NFC - The iPhone supports reading NFC tags with iOS 11 with an API for developers, so this point is just factually incorrect.

The Wireless Charging and Headphone jack points though, nothing to really argue with them.
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How it's also older. Should be more compared to the upcoming 845. The 835 was announced in 2016 and the first phone with it was the Samsung Galaxy S8 which came in March. It will be funny to see the reactions of Apple fanboys if the 845 is faster lol.

The 845 is expected to match the A9 in terms of single core performance, so multi-core performance (which will probably be higher since it's going to be an onto-core processor most likely), still won't be far off from the A11. Not to mention the GPU performance is heavily balanced in Apple's favor.

The Snapdragon 8xx series and Apple's recent SoCs are fiercely competitive, with Apple dominating single-core and GPU performance in favor of Apple, but multi-core performance in favor of Qualcomm.

 

[JustJoshua]

I like iOS. I also think android has a place too. For how my Apple devices integrate with my living as others have said and how stupid simple it is to do things with iOS I cannot imagine going back too android. Everyone’s needs and used are different so I can understand why people favor one over the other.

 

[johannnn]

Just read a review on the Pixel 2. My god, are Android phones this slow? Haha now I pity all Android owners.

 

[KingslayerG5]

I'm actually waiting for Apple to do some more copying from others like doing a back button gesture or offer us wide-angle lens like the original LG G5 did. Have a triple lens cam with Telephoto/wide-angle.

Dual lens setup was started by HTC. I remember M8 had the bokeh effect 2.5 years before iPhone 7 started to offer it. Jony Ive has always took inspiration from Sony as well.

But there is a double standard. There hasn't been much changes going from Android 5-8 and nobody bats an eye. But if Apple doesn't innovate enough, plenty of haterade.

I like Apple more than Samsung as of late but my heart is with the LG V series and Pixel phones. LG hardware features and lowered prices after 3-4 months + Google's software is Android nirvana for me.

Favorite iOS version used -
4
5
6
9
8
10
7
3
2
1

Haven't used 11 yet but it probably falls below 10.

I don't really feel the old school smoothness since iOS4 to 4.1 and with lesser bloat. Forstall designed it better than Ive did.

Favorite Android version used -
Marshmallow
Nougat
Oreo
KitKat
Lollipop
Ice Cream Sandwich
Jelly Bean
Gingerbread

MM is my favorite because Google removed the Flappy Android Easter Egg first found on L. It eats up less RAM than N. KitKat used to be my fav and probably one of the most stable but the lack of Material Design makes it look outdated.

But Marshmallow, Nougat, and Oreo could easily be Android 5.1, 5.2, and 5.3. Perhaps it is a good thing it doesn't change so much for faster updates. Project Treble will make it easier.

Google hasn't been innovating either. Industry has become stagnant across the board. Biggest trend this year was less bezel on four sides. A trend first started by the Sharp Aquos in 2014. Big whoop! An awkward way to type if curved displays is an annoyance.

Yet, Apple gets most of the blame if they aren't innovating enough. I hate how Android fans needing to trash Apple fans like their preference is the truth.

On the other side, Samsung still gets ridiculed by Apple fans for the Note7 with corny bomb jokes. Or if Samsung offers gold Galaxies as if Apple owns that color and should be the only brand offering it.

When Samsung consistently lost in PhoneBuff's speed tests, it mattered for Apple fans and they gloated. If Note8 beat iPhone 8 Plus, it doesn't matter and iOS11 excuses.

If Pixels got the highest DxOMark last year, it doesn't matter. If 8 Plus topped it, it matters. If Pixel 2 XL topped 8 Plus, it doesn't matter again.

Seven phones, two retired, all in either 4", 4.5", 4.7", 5", 5.3", 5.7" and different colors, I just enjoy them all. They are all pretty great and far better than ones being used 5 to 10 years ago.

The iPhone X is going to be a pretty great phone. But like the og iPhone, needs more refinement. Apple deals with minimum 3-year design cycles with good-better-best patterns.

Good - iPhone 5
Better - iPhone 5s
Best - iPhone SE

 

[allthingsapple!]

This thread isn't bashing iOS. The thread creator isn't saying Android is better. He isn't asking you to defend your iPhone purchase over a Android device. It's about iPhone (6s,7,8) vs iPhone X. How do you defend purchasing an iPhone X over an iPhone 6s/7/8.

iPhones are awesome. For this thread, let's asume that is the truth. Now here is the part that is the topic of this thread: the iPhone X = iPhone 8 + (hardware features found on old Android devices). All the features added to the iPhone X are things on old Android devices that don't cost $1000. How can you justify the cost increase.

From the off topic discussion about how iOS is better than Android, it is obvious it can't be justified. It is a luxury purchase, plain and simple. You're paying for the logo.

Oh I know! I totally understand. But that’s literally what I tell people lol. I know android is “more advanced” and has more techy stuff but I just like iOS. I’m paying for iOS and the stability and ecosystem of Apple. It’s that simple.

 

[RPG97]

Not sure if anyone’s mentioned it yet but the Galaxy S6 is not water resistant at all...that’s the S7. Whoever made this stupid meme is an idiot. Focusing on numbers too much like all Android fanboys do...the A11 stomps the Exynos in the S6 (and every other phone available currently). Camera megapixels don’t matter. Etc

 

[umbrokhan]

3D face ID, 5 years of update, local shop, fastest CPU, GPU in the world. first AR kit. 4K 60fps, 1080p 240fps..makes the price high.
iPhone Resale Value = Excellent !

now let's talk about Google Pixel 2 XL
Google Pixel 2 doesn't even have a local store. so why is the price high?
2 years of major updates then 3rd year small security update..so why is the price high?
less hardware, less features then all other OEM android phones. so why is the price high?
still no wireless charging, big bezels on both side. so why the high price?
slower CPU, GPU, NO AR kit yet. so why the high price?
got rid of the head phone jack which they was making fun out of Apple.
so who's laughing now?

Android resale value = Poor.
android flagship phone got rid of removable battery. and made they phones look like Apple.
if apple makes the price high then android flagship OEM make they price high aswell..and we will see what happens to Android price in 2018 and 2019 hitting £1000 mark.
if Apple get's gold colour then Android have to get gold colour.
Android OEM want to copy Apple's 3D face ID..because its 2 and half years ahead of the competition..
its mostly Android fan's and hard-core android Tech YouTubers that are more biased unfair compared to Apple fan's.
its mostly android fan's going on Apple forum and trolling.
its mostly android fan's comparing with Apple.
its mostly android fan's making jokes, insulting Apple.

 

[eggbrother]

simple...I like iOS. Nothing to defend.

Most of the people are just "I like/I need the logo"
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The chart is clearly just a circle jerk over numbers, and fails to take into account actual application. I don't usually partake in these discussions, but I'm bored in class so I'll break it down:

Thickness - The iPhone X has a larger battery, screen, and more internal hardware than the S6.
IP Certification - The Galaxy S6 has no IP certification and the S7 was advertised as gaining the water-resistance back
Camera - The camera sensor in the X is much more advanced than the S6, with a much superior ISP as well
Display - The iPhone has more PPI than the Galaxy S6,
Processor - Core numbers mean nothing. The iPhone 6s has higher theoretical and applied performance of the Exynos 7420. The A11 blows even the latest Exynos, Kirin, and Snapdragon processors, especially in the GPU and Single Core performance area. It's estimated the Snapdragon 845 will finally meet the Apple A9 in single core performance, and that's the highest end Snapdragon. By this logic, the 8 core CPU of the S6 should have more power than a quad-core i7 because it has more cores, which truly is not the case in any scenario.
RAM - Android devices usually have more RAM because the system demands it. iOS devices run smoother and more power efficient with less ram compared to the Android counterparts because the system isn't demanding. Android devices don't have 4,6, 8GB of RAM because its better, it has that much because it needs it for a solid experience.
Wi-Fi - The S6 doesn't support MIMO, and speaking of connections, it doesn't support LTE-A, 256 QAM, nor does it support Bluetooth 5.0.
NFC - The iPhone supports reading NFC tags with iOS 11 with an API for developers, so this point is just factually incorrect.

The Wireless Charging and Headphone jack points though, nothing to really argue with them.
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The 845 is expected to match the A9 in terms of single core performance, so multi-core performance (which will probably be higher since it's going to be an onto-core processor most likely), still won't be far off from the A11. Not to mention the GPU performance is heavily balanced in Apple's favor.

The Snapdragon 8xx series and Apple's recent SoCs are fiercely competitive, with Apple dominating single-core and GPU performance in favor of Apple, but multi-core performance in favor of Qualcomm.

Comparing with s6 is a joke, you should actually compare to note 8 and pixel 2 xl

 

[allthingsapple!]

Most of the people are just "I like/I need the logo"
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Comparing with s6 is a joke, you should actually compare to note 8 and pixel 2 xl

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Oh no not me. I couldn’t care less about the logo. I just really like the simplicity of iOS.

 

[jamesrick80]

Most of the people are just "I like/I need the logo"
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Comparing with s6 is a joke, you should actually compare to note 8 and pixel 2 xl

No one should compare the Note 8 with the iphone X. That iPhone X has a tiny 5.8 inch screen and should be compared to its true rival the S8. Note 8 is in a league of its own. Now look at the picture of the ugly fisherprice iphone X next to the gorgeous and futuristic S8.

 

[I7guy]

No one should compare the Note 8 with the iphone X. That iPhone X has a tiny 5.8 inch screen and should be compared to its true rival the S8. Note 8 is in a league of its own. Now look at the picture of the ugly fisherprice iphone X next to the gorgeous and futuristic S8.


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The s8 looks like every other generic slab android phone; iphone x has some character. Looks and beauty are subjective and not objective.