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burgman

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Where Samsung absolutely slams IOS is Bixby vs Siri ;);););)
If the OP had used the Pixel 2 in this comparison then things are a little different, but still a personal choice between eco-systems.
 

profets

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Why are Android users so obsessed with the iPhone? I couldn't care less about Android phones.

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mib1800

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Your points replied to:

1. Disjointed navigation between apps (non stacked based) (This is your preference I don't like stacked, like it is in safari I prefer the card layout)

2. No global back and task buttons (You just swipe left from the left side of the screen its much more simple than swiping up the virtual controls to then click back)

I think you didnt get I am saying. Maybe you are not familiar with Android.

I am talking about how to navigate between opened apps in a logical manner via the stack and global back.

A very common use case.
1. You are doing something (say reading e-book). Notification comes in (whatsapp/email/whatever). Say whatsapp
2. Click notification to view message. Inside the message is a web link. You want to see the link before replying.
3. Click on weblink to open web page. Inside the webpage there is also a youtube video
4. Click on video to view.

On Android after I have done with (4), I tap global back button and I am at (3) to finish the article, then I tap back button again and I am at (2) to type and send my reply and then I tap back button which takes me back to what I was doing before in (1).

Using Iphone, you have to use your task manager to switch back and forth to previous app every step of the way and making a conscious effort to remember what you were doing before and which app to move back to up the chain. This is so much more tedious require effort and steps/taps. Imagine navigating web-pages (i.e. apps) without a "back" and solely relying on "url history"

3. Convoluted Settings implementation (Convoluted compared to Android??? Wow. Android has the most messy settings menu i've ever seen. Can hardly find what I'm looking for, again showing More isn't better)

Iphone: While in app, press home, find and open main "Settings", scroll through long list to find and change items related to app, open task mgr, switch back app.

Android: While in app, press menu, select and change settings value. Done.

Need I say more :p

4. No support for shortcuts (Short cuts for what? You're most used apps show up when you pull down on the screen for easy access)

Not talking about app. How about shortcut on homescreen which takes you directly to battery screen in "Settings" (or any specific screen in any app - e.g add new contact screen). Or a direct sms to one of the numbers of a contact. Or shortcut to open a specific PDF file in the internal storage directly.

5. Slower scrolling rate (I haven't had any issues with scrolling speed on either devices.)

I have no issue app opening milli-seconds slower is a deal-breaker either (well, many here like to tout the A11 processor). My original point was if galaxy opens an app in 0.5 secs and even if iphone 8+ can open the same app 10x faster at 0.05 sec, so what? Does it affect usability? Don't think so.

But what matters more is the Iphone scrolling rate is still slower. In order to scroll through the same long page/list, it takes 3-4 times as many swipes compared to Android (..ios11 is better but still nowhere near the scroll rate of android). Having to swipe 3-4 times more is much noticeable and detrimental to usability than 0.45 sec longer.

6. No USB host support (Something I don't need)
7. No user accessable file system. (The file system is something I don't like on android)

It just shows you preference is rule of thumb here. You like what you like, I've never knocked anyone who uses android it doesn't bother me I don't care. I prefer iOS and therefore continue to use iPhone. I tried the S8 cause i loved its design an OLED screen but android was hard to adjust to.

I am not knocking anyone preferences. But making a preference sounds like it is better overall without even knowing fully (or not wanting to know the benefits) how the alternatives work is not right.

e.g. above USB support. I have friends with iphone that are very apprehensive about taking 4K videos while on holidays/outings due to running out of space (before they make it back home/hotel to offload). For me I just bring along my credit card size SSD drive which I just plug directly into my S8+ via usb and offload videos in phone directly anytime at USB3 speed.
 
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mib1800

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There is most sophisticated and then there is a better user experience. I choose better user experience 10/10.

When I get home I do not have to think about what to do with my phone. I can plug it in to charge whereever I want and go sit on my laptop. Now while on my laptop I continue to get messages, calls etc and have access to all the tabs that were open on my phone.

I don't want to have to be theatered to my phone to access my messages or calls.

In addition to functions supported by Apple "Continuity", how about replying to Whatsapp/snapchat/telegram/whatever from your PC/tablet untethered? Or drag and drop photo/video/file from phone internal storage directly to word document while working on PC? Or run any app in the phone from PC? All these without special setup or requiring to use web browser version) on the PC (and Mac). Can "continuity" do this? Don't think so.

But it can be done with Samsung Sidesync.

 

I7guy

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In addition to functions supported by Apple "Continuity", how about replying to Whatsapp/snapchat/telegram/whatever from your PC/tablet untethered? Or drag and drop photo/video/file from phone internal storage directly to word document while working on PC? Or run any app in the phone from PC? All these without special setup or requiring to use web browser version) on the PC (and Mac). Can "continuity" do this? Don't think so.

But it can be done with Samsung Sidesync.

That’s great if you use a pc, some (many) of us don’t and dont want to.
 

mib1800

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But I don’t use a pc. my own use case is what matters. So big yes, yes.:) And if you don’t use a Samsung phone one can’t use this software anyway. So pretty much a closed ecosystem.

For you maybe. But people who use PC are many times those who use Mac.

The big difference is iPhone can't integrate with others whereas a galaxy can.
 

I7guy

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For you maybe. But people who use PC are many times those who use Mac.

The big difference is iPhone can't integrate with others whereas a galaxy can.
Well I’m glad you agree my use case is my use case and I don’t need a galaxy to integrate with my Mac.:) Nor do I need my iPhone to integrate with windows.
 

redheeler

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I love and own apple but this hurts. I don't see how iPhone can be defended with this comparison.
I could just as easily start comparing last year's A10 benchmarks with this year's Android phones now, or A11 benchmarks now with Android phones coming in Late 2018 or 2019. ;)

But truthfully, these kinds of comparisons mean almost nothing, and don't take into account software or other aspects of the hardware. It really comes down to what device works best for you.
 

Crzyrio

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In addition to functions supported by Apple "Continuity", how about replying to Whatsapp/snapchat/telegram/whatever from your PC/tablet untethered? Or drag and drop photo/video/file from phone internal storage directly to word document while working on PC? Or run any app in the phone from PC? All these without special setup or requiring to use web browser version) on the PC (and Mac). Can "continuity" do this? Don't think so.

But it can be done with Samsung Sidesync.


See us iPhone/Mac users dont face any of those problems.

All our documents, photos, music and files sync seamlessly across our devices. Every photo I take on my phone automatically ends up in my photo library on my mac when I plug my device in to sleep at night. Every document I edit on my phone in Pages is automatically available on my mac to access without even having to touch my phone when I need it or 'connect' it.

The absolute best thing about Mac/iOS is the ease of transferring files. If my phone or mac is nearby and I need to send something to it, I just click Share and click my Mac/iPhone and Its sent.


The only thing that 'SideSync' has that is arguably better is being able to mirror and control the actual phone.
 
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mib1800

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See us iPhone/Mac users dont face any of those problems.

All our documents, photos, music and files sync seamlessly across our devices. Every photo I take on my phone automatically ends up in my photo library on my mac when I plug my device in to sleep at night. Every document I edit on my phone in Pages is automatically available on my mac to access without even having to touch my phone when I need it or 'connect' it.

The absolute best thing about Mac/iOS is the ease of transferring files. If my phone or mac is nearby and I need to send something to it, I just click Share and click my Mac/iPhone and Its sent.


The only thing that 'SideSync' has that is arguably better is being able to mirror and control the actual phone.

What you are talking about is just cloud file syncing which is the most basic. Doesn't matter whether it is icloud in your iPhone or Google or SamsungCloud with Android. They work similarly.
 

I7guy

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Gotta be in it to win it
See us iPhone/Mac users dont face any of those problems.

All our documents, photos, music and files sync seamlessly across our devices. Every photo I take on my phone automatically ends up in my photo library on my mac when I plug my device in to sleep at night. Every document I edit on my phone in Pages is automatically available on my mac to access without even having to touch my phone when I need it or 'connect' it.

The absolute best thing about Mac/iOS is the ease of transferring files. If my phone or mac is nearby and I need to send something to it, I just click Share and click my Mac/iPhone and Its sent.


The only thing that 'SideSync' has that is arguably better is being able to mirror and control the actual phone.
There seems to be methods to remote control/mirror an iPhone as well.
 

Crzyrio

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What you are talking about is just cloud file syncing which is the most basic. Doesn't matter whether it is icloud in your iPhone or Google or SamsungCloud with Android. They work similarly.

What your talking about is file syncing which is half the solution.

If you truly want it to be similar you need something more than simple could file syncing. You need your media manager to look at specific folders in your cloud and import photos. The integration with the fily syncing is what makes the difference and the fact that the user has to do nothing other than log in and turn it on once.

And like I said there really is nothing comparable to airdrop between iOS & macOS.
 

Txguy82

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I love and own apple but this hurts. I don't see how iPhone can be defended with this comparison.

Screw the Amoled screens. They are only useful for some pictures and definitely movies. Over hyped bs Android sells IMO
 

Septembersrain

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Screw the Amoled screens. They are only useful for some pictures and definitely movies. Over hyped bs Android sells IMO
To each their own but going from iPhone 7 Plus to a V30, it was like going from an old brown paged book to a new crisp white one.

Even Apple will start using OLED.
 

Txguy82

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To each their own but going from iPhone 7 Plus to a V30, it was like going from an old brown paged book to a new crisp white one.

Even Apple will start using OLED.

Messed with the v30 in a at&t store. I was hoping it could sway me away from the iPhone due to Apple’s lack of technology with their phones. Nope! V30 felt cheap and the selfie camera is horrible. Did not try the rear camera but geez Android’s phones feel cheap. Pixel looks like also

You’re right tho! To each their own!
 
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ronincse

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Screw the Amoled screens. They are only useful for some pictures and definitely movies. Over hyped bs Android sells IMO

To each their own but going from iPhone 7 Plus to a V30, it was like going from an old brown paged book to a new crisp white one.

Even Apple will start using OLED.

Ummmm.....you two know the iPhone X uses a Samsung AMOLED screen right?
 

Septembersrain

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Messed with the v30 in a at&t store. I was hoping it could sway me away from the iPhone due to Apple’s lack of technology with their phones. Nope! V30 felt cheap and the selfie camera is horrible. Did not try the rear camera but geez Android’s phones feel cheap. Pixel looks like also

You’re right tho! To each their own!
I love how light it is and I'm not a selfie taker. I'm a potato! LOL
Ummmm.....you two know the iPhone X uses a Samsung AMOLED screen right?
Yeah, that's why I said my last sentence.
 

redman042

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This thread is still going??

We need to hurry up and get to the X preorders so we can bury this thread underneath mountains of plane tracking threads ;)
 
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