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iPad Pro Apple has just introduced Bionic A14 in iPad Air
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Can we confirm the pros are thinner?
I got the impression by visual only on the event.
The new Air does looks thicker.
I was supposed to have said A12Z not the A12 itself before only realizing the error
It’s a Good Thing(tm) that they went thicker - here’s hoping they do the same with the new Pros. Might help the insensitive screen issue and bending issue.
I’ll take a slight weight/thickness increase with slab sides over those issues all day.
It’s not more powerful than your iPad Pro 2020. It is a 6 core CPU compared to an 8 core one in your Pro + I think the GPU has more cores on the Pro, too. Single-core performance will probably be similar or better on Air, but in general, it will probably be a less powerful CPU overall.
Also, let’s be honest, it’s not like you would be able to feel the difference beyond the benchmarks either way.
X-series CPUs are traditionally one or two generations behind, but they come with more cores and higher clock speeds.
Single core is pretty much all that matters on an iPad. What apps or use cases actually take advantage of multiple cores? Does anyone have a list or examples of usage models where it would matter that much? Maybe recording audio tracks or editing images... and what else?
Multi-core makes a big difference in all sorts of things including just surfing. The single-core-is-all-that-is-important thing hasn't been true for a very, very long time now.
Absent some evidence I’d disagree. Developers have to specifically work to make such parallel aspects happen (the OS can’t make their program multithreaded if it’s not capable) and there’s so few aspects in most apps that can or would use it. Safari - maybe it uses parallel threads to gather resources (images, links, etc) when a page initially loads but that’s it - then it’s single-core city for the 99% of the time the page is loaded and the user is looking at it or typing.
This topics has come up before, too:
Does iOS for iPad use single or multi core more
because a10x single core isn’t much better than a10 or a9x imo (and maybe even objectively) looking at benchmarks
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The best test of the impact would be if someone had a utility to disable all but one CPU core on the iPad chips and then benchmark various apps both in that state and with the additional cores enabled and measure the difference.
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Yeah that‘s one I’d expect to benefit.
The typical things iPad users do, not so much \:
- Browsing the web
- Watching videos
Indeed. Plus video. Plus background tabs/apps are separate processes too.
If all you are doing is loading up a single simple page and no background tabs, you don't need very much performance in the first place anyway.
The only way this grip makes sense is if the Pro was released side by side with the Air and the Air had a better processor.
This is not the case. You are fine.
This is not the case. You are fine.
It's definitely what people will notice the most, being the biggest CPU factor in general system fluidity. The A14 will have other benefits from upgraded components like the ISP and neural network too. With chips already being overkill for iPad OS I don't know how much of a practical difference it will make though, OTOH the higher TDP of the A12Z will help a lot with sustained performance for heavier workloads, alongside the extra cores.
Multi-core makes a difference up to a point. It's not like the A14 is a single-core chip. At 6 (2+4) vs 8 (4+4) cores, I expect we're entering diminishing returns territory.
I expect the extra RAM on the Pros is really useful for those background tabs/tasks, though. Gaming is also a win for the Pro.
I bought a 2020 iPad Pro 11” in May, and I’m not upset about it at all. That’s how technology works. Usually the iPhone gets the next chip architecture before the iPad anyway, and that never upsets anyone.
The various iPhones and iPads have different sized updates. My A10X iPad Pro actually took longer than my wife's A10 iPad. I note that the update on the iPad Pro was much larger.
Yeah I deleted my post cuz I had a brain fart there for a second. Thanks lol. Also different OS.
Yup, I think TSMC claimed a 30% reduction in power draw for 5nm over 7nm. I'm looking forward to some more in depth analysis, and particularly to see what [insane performance/watt] the Mac chips bring to the table
I'm very glad that they made the air as powerful as they could make it, but I feel the frustration of iPad 2020 owners
The a14 has a single core speed of around 1600 versus about 1100 for the pros. That will definitely be noticeable in certain scenarios. Multicore is about 600 points faster for the pros however.
The a14 has a single core speed of around 1600 versus about 1100 for the pros. That will definitely be noticeable in certain scenarios. Multicore is about 600 points faster for the pros however.
1100 vs 1600 ~= 45% increase
4600 vs 4000 ~= 13% decrease
Honestly, I doubt most people will notice a 10-15% difference. A14 likely uses less power, too, while delivering similar or better performance (not counting the GPU at least).
So would it be reasonable to assume that for most operations, the A14 CPU gets the win?
The crazy part about this whole thing is that the A14 could have been a lot more powerful if Apple wanted. They used a significant portion of the die realestate for a 2x faster neural engine. Not sure IOS even uses that chip very much other than for photo/video editing software? Not sure really where they will go with this.
The 5nm process is a huge deal it seams.
Probably yes if you can actually notice the difference.
Honestly, most of the time my bottleneck is the internet connection rather than CPU.
That said, I always appreciate improved efficiency.
Its not just all about the CPU. The pros also have more storage, higher refresh rate, more RAM and more. Does the extra refresh rate also help with the pencil too?