Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions

[Feenician]

I don't think it's horrible or unusable. I just disagree with them switching it back because it feels better to me on iOS 10 on my 7. I don't think it's necessarily planned obsolescence either. Just a dumb design decision to change it back. At this point I highly doubt they will change it back. And there won't be many more years with iPhones that have home buttons so it doesn't really matter anyways. iOS 10 on the iPhone 7/7+ will always be reguarded as the fastest responding iOS version for the capacitive home button iPhones. And I will stay there. No point in updating to lose any responsiveness from my iPhone no matter how small.

I agree with most of what you say. We don't know why they decided to unify at this point, but planned obsolescence is a wacky theory, given it applies to month old phones.

It's certainly your choice to remain on 10 if you don't see value in it. I fully expect overall system performance to be similar/the same as 10.3.3 on all supported devices, and certainly the 7 as iOS 11 is optimized over time though. 11.1 is getting pretty near to that already.

 

[Someguy333]

So what's the point of people pointing out how it all adds up to something like 7 seconds over a period of day?

You clearly do not understand the problem. it is not about the time you lose per day, it is about the response of the device that is artificially altering, and undoubtedly gives you the feeling that the phone is slower.

When the iphone 7 was new, who made the jump from an iphone6 / 6s would undoubtedly notice the change and think: "wow, it was worth the upgrade".

A year later it does not matter anymore and they treat it like any old device. I jumped from an iphone 6 to 7, and I loved the speed of response of the phone. When I updated to ios 11 I had the feeling of having returned to my iphone 6. The delay is so remarkable that after 4 days I had to install ios10 precisely because of this problem.
I understand that those who have jumped from an iphone 6 / 6s to 8 do not notice this problem because they have never had it.

What I do not understand are the users of an iPhone 7 that blindly defend any shoddy behavior of a large corporation that charges us more than € 800 for the phone, which after a year they no longer care to keep that feature and treat it as the other devices.

The OP is right. There is a deliberate delay in a phone that when it went on sale did not have it.

 

[C DM]

You clearly do not understand the problem. it is not about the time you lose per day, it is about the response of the device that is artificially altering, and undoubtedly gives you the feeling that the phone is slower.

Clearly you didn't quite read what I wrote about. I get that it's not about the time lost per day, which is why I'm asking (more in a rhetorical way) why some people who are trying to argue about this are going down the path of unnecessary hyperbole in many instances bringing fairly meaningless things into it like how much (insignificant) time it all adds up to over a period of a day. Taking issue with hyperbole and overblown extreme absolutes doesn't somehow translate to defense of anything.

 

[Someguy333]

Clearly you didn't quite read what I wrote about. I get that it's not about the time lost per day, which is why I'm asking (more in a rhetorical way) why some people who are trying to argue about this are going down the path of unnecessary hyperbole in many instances bringing fairly meaningless things into it like how much (insignificant) time it all adds up to over a period of a day. Taking issue with hyperbole and overblown extreme absolutes doesn't somehow translate to defense of anything.

I did not want to hurt your feelings, but if you read the rest of my post you will see that it is not about this point.

 

[C DM]

I did not want to hurt your feelings, but if you read the rest of my post you will see that it is not about this point.

Not sure where feelings are involved. And clearly you spent some time in the post on that point in reply to my post that only commented on that originally.

 

[CTHarrryH]

No not experiencing

 

[Pelea]

You’re 100% wrong. My phone doesn’t have it. Clearly you missed me when you set out to check every iPhone with iOS 11.
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That’s not a second. Maybe a quarter second?

My iPhone doesn’t have that. Only for a few apps and that’s app related.

prove that ur phone doesn't have it. show a comparison of an iphone 7 on ios 10 and ur iphone on ios 11. oh wait you can't because you can't tell that your phone has a delay.

 

[red_epicness]

To whom it may concern,

I will not participate in the discussion whether the lag is true or not or anything related to tit but I feel obligated to state the fact the lag is non existsant on both my iPhone7 running iOS 11.1 beta 4 (11.1 is just around the corner now for everyone) and my iPad 12.9" 1st Gen running iOS 11.0.3. The lag is clearly not present and apps close as soon as I press the home buton.

iPhone:

iPad:

 

[Someguy333]

To whom it may concern,

I will not participate in the discussion whether the lag is true or not or anything related to tit but I feel obligated to state the fact the lag is non existsant on both my iPhone7 running iOS 11.1 beta 4 (11.1 is just around the corner now for everyone) and my iPad 12.9" 1st Gen running iOS 11.0.3. The lag is clearly not present and apps close as soon as I press the home buton.

iPhone:

iPad:

Let's the app fully open and then close it.
Edit: what is the model code of your iPhone 7?

 

[red_epicness]

Let's the app fully open and then close it.
Edit: what is the model code of your iPhone 7?

A1778 is the model.
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Let's the app fully open and then close it.
Edit: what is the model code of your iPhone 7?

I am replying to the original post which states that iOS 11 does not close the app when pressing home button midway in the opening animation, which is exactly what I tested and disproved for my devices.

 

[Someguy333]

A1778 is the model.
[doublepost=1508705176][/doublepost]
I am replying to the original post which states that iOS 11 does not close the app when pressing home button midway in the opening animation, which is exactly what I tested and disproved for my devices.

the same code as mine. can you post the code from Settings>information? mine is MN8X2QL/2

 

[red_epicness]

the same code as mine. can you post the code from Settings>information? mine is MN8X2QL/2

MN922AE/A

 

[cynics]

Comparing to my friends iPhone 8 the home button response on iOS 11 feels/appears the same as my iPhone 6S. While I don't feel its quite as fast as iOS 10 they feel the same to me.

Assuming this is what everyone is experience (me testing 2 devices isn't exactly a good sample size) then I find its not planned obsolescence.

Planned obsolescence only works if the newer devices function better, its not an upgrade if they don't.

I don't think Apples obsolescence is completely unplanned however I don't think they are active pursuing it like many would believe. They just add features without as much regard to older devices as they could.

This is a double edge sword for Apple anyway. Device slows down and they get berated. Leave features out for older devices and they get berated. Not offer updates and they get berated. They will even offer updates on older version of iOS for devices that can't be updated to newer versions of iOS in extreme cases related to functionality or security (albeit the occasions of this are very rare). Technically they don't even force you to update, although I guess they could offer a way to not download updates and disable the red notification icon, maybe a reminder every 10-30 days or something.

I've been VERY happy with iOS 11. While I feel like there is quite a bit of refining to do I really feel like its an upgrade over iOS 10. HomeKit features alone has made it worthwhile for me.

EDIT: @Someguy333 pointed out to me this was a 7/7+ issue. Disregard most of my post.

 

[Someguy333]

Comparing to my friends iPhone 8 the home button response on iOS 11 feels/appears the same as my iPhone 6S. While I don't feel its quite as fast as iOS 10 they feel the same to me.

Assuming this is what everyone is experience (me testing 2 devices isn't exactly a good sample size) then I find its not planned obsolescence.

Planned obsolescence only works if the newer devices function better, its not an upgrade if they don't.

I don't think Apples obsolescence is completely unplanned however I don't think they are active pursuing it like many would believe. They just add features without as much regard to older devices as they could.

This is a double edge sword for Apple anyway. Device slows down and they get berated. Leave features out for older devices and they get berated. Not offer updates and they get berated. They will even offer updates on older version of iOS for devices that can't be updated to newer versions of iOS in extreme cases related to functionality or security (albeit the occasions of this are very rare). Technically they don't even force you to update, although I guess they could offer a way to not download updates and disable the red notification icon, maybe a reminder every 10-30 days or something.

I've been VERY happy with iOS 11. While I feel like there is quite a bit of refining to do I really feel like its an upgrade over iOS 10. HomeKit features alone has made it worthwhile for me.

The problem only exists on iPhone 7/7+

 

[cynics]

The problem only exist on iPhone 7/7+

Ah. Ok, disregard my post.

Thread was a bit too long to read.

 

[C DM]

The problem only exists on iPhone 7/7+

Apple's elaborate malicious conspiracy is to only affect one model of phones? That's some conspiracy.

Also interesting how even some with iPhone 8 are supposedly experiencing this kind of thing.

 

[cynics]

I can fix this issue through the powers of relative comparison.

Go to settings > General > Accessibility > Home Button > Click speed set to Slowest.

Use the iPhone like that for a 24+ hour period. It will be obnoxious.

Then switch it back to default. It will feel like greased lightning.

 

[Someguy333]

Apple's elaborate malicious conspiracy is to only affect one model of phones? That's some conspiracy.

Also interesting how even some with iPhone 8 are supposedly experiencing this kind of thing.

And again, you're not understanding what's going on here.

NO, it's not an Apple's elaborate malicious conspiracy.

When the iphone 7 went on sale, they had to promote touch ID and the new home button.
When I bought this phone the response of the home button was instantaneous.

One year after touch ID is no longer the technology to develop, now it's faceID.

Apple now no longer invests resources in touch ID and leaves the iphone 7 functioning like the rest of the old phones. Probably for convenience of development, simply they no longer make this distinction of the home button, if they are not going to manufacture more phones with touch ID.

The iphone 8 only exists so that the transition to an iphone without a home button is less traumatic for users. But really the new iphone is the X.

It is not a matter of having maliciously planned it. Is that they no longer care about the iphone 7 until the point that for convenience, they remove a feature that all users of this phone loved.

Finally I will have to get used to the damn delay of the home button, and like me, users who are tired of this and finally want to get rid of the delay, will have to switch to an iphone without that old home button.

You can deny it all you want, but the delay of the home button exists in the iphone 7/7 +, at least in more than a range of devices. You can visit reddit to see that many people are complaining about this problem.

It's a shame they will not fix it on a phone I bought less than a year ago.

 

[C DM]

And again, you're not understanding what's going on here.

NO, it's not an Apple's elaborate malicious conspiracy.

When the iphone 7 went on sale, they had to promote touch ID and the new home button.
When I bought this phone the response of the home button was instantaneous.

One year after touch ID is no longer the technology to develop, now it's faceID.

Apple now no longer invests resources in touch ID and leaves the iphone 7 functioning like the rest of the old phones. Probably for convenience of development, simply they no longer make this distinction of the home button, if they are not going to manufacture more phones with touch ID.

The iphone 8 only exists so that the transition to an iphone without a home button is less traumatic for users. But really the new iphone is the X.

It is not a matter of having maliciously planned it. Is that they no longer care about the iphone 7 until the point that for convenience, they remove a feature that all users of this phone loved.

Finally I will have to get used to the damn delay of the home button, and like me, users who are tired of this and finally want to get rid of the delay, will have to switch to an iphone without that old home button.

You can deny it all you want, but the delay of the home button exists in the iphone 7/7 +, at least in more than a range of devices. You can visit reddit to see that many people are complaining about this problem.

It's a shame they will not fix it on a phone I bought less than a year ago.

Seems like you are missing quite a bit of what has transpired in this thread and various others. There's certainly your take on it all, and the there's quite a it of what all kinds of others have brought up and discussed here that goes beyond what just the limited take you have taken. That's all good and fine, but seems like it doesn't all jive with various other things that have been brought up about it by various other people. Unless you are saying that many of those who have been experiencing issues and have been presenting their take on them for pages are also basically incorrect in their take on it and it's just basically down to how you present it and nothing else.

 

[I7guy]

Let's the app fully open and then close it.
Edit: what is the model code of your iPhone 7?

Ah, so the app is being closed wrong. Got it.

 

[Radon87000]

To whom it may concern,

I will not participate in the discussion whether the lag is true or not or anything related to tit but I feel obligated to state the fact the lag is non existsant on both my iPhone7 running iOS 11.1 beta 4 (11.1 is just around the corner now for everyone) and my iPad 12.9" 1st Gen running iOS 11.0.3. The lag is clearly not present and apps close as soon as I press the home buton.

iPhone:

iPad:

This video shows nothing. Make a video showing the button being pressed by you and then see the response time. Also if you close the app midway before it opens, that is instant but it’s not what’s being discussed. The issue being discussed is that when we press the home button, it takes 1 second for the close animation to kick in. Open the app switcher and click the home button. It takes 1 second to take effect.

 

[JM]

To whom it may concern,

I will not participate in the discussion whether the lag is true or not or anything related to tit but I feel obligated to state the fact the lag is non existsant on both my iPhone7 running iOS 11.1 beta 4 (11.1 is just around the corner now for everyone) and my iPad 12.9" 1st Gen running iOS 11.0.3. The lag is clearly not present and apps close as soon as I press the home buton.

iPhone:

iPad:

OMG your apps need to stop punching me in the face.

Haha

 

[Radon87000]

And again, you're not understanding what's going on here.

NO, it's not an Apple's elaborate malicious conspiracy.

When the iphone 7 went on sale, they had to promote touch ID and the new home button.
When I bought this phone the response of the home button was instantaneous.

One year after touch ID is no longer the technology to develop, now it's faceID.

Apple now no longer invests resources in touch ID and leaves the iphone 7 functioning like the rest of the old phones. Probably for convenience of development, simply they no longer make this distinction of the home button, if they are not going to manufacture more phones with touch ID.

The iphone 8 only exists so that the transition to an iphone without a home button is less traumatic for users. But really the new iphone is the X.

It is not a matter of having maliciously planned it. Is that they no longer care about the iphone 7 until the point that for convenience, they remove a feature that all users of this phone loved.

Finally I will have to get used to the damn delay of the home button, and like me, users who are tired of this and finally want to get rid of the delay, will have to switch to an iphone without that old home button.

You can deny it all you want, but the delay of the home button exists in the iphone 7/7 +, at least in more than a range of devices. You can visit reddit to see that many people are complaining about this problem.

It's a shame they will not fix it on a phone I bought less than a year ago.

The hard solution which people just do not like mentioned is that you need to buy the X to get rid of this annoyance. The 8 was only released because they have issues making the X. The model which will have the most development time is the X and that’s where all the resources have gone and will go and I know I am getting it because that is the only solution to my problem.

The 7 has no issues on iOS 10 because Apple actually gave a damn about the 10 when it released. It also wasn’t losing to competing smartphones on launch.

 

[JM]

The hard solution which people just do not like mentioned is that you need to buy the X to get rid of this annoyance. The 8 was only released because they have issues making the X. The model which will have the most development time is the X and that’s where all the resources have gone and will go and I know I am getting it because that is the only solution to my problem.

Don't do it! It's exactly what Apple wants you to do! You need to teach them a lesson by buying... a....

Well darn, there isn't any other phone worthy of spending money on.

 

[_Refurbished_]

The problem only exists on iPhone 7/7+

Not true, exists with the iPhone 8 as well.