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there is no "it works fine for me" the delay is present on every single phone. if u wanna see it you'll need an iphone 7 running any version of ios 10 to compare the delay between ios 10 and 11
You’re 100% wrong. My phone doesn’t have it. Clearly you missed me when you set out to check every iPhone with iOS 11.
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iPhone 6s running iOS10 on the left, iPhone 7+ running iOS11 on the right. Not my video.

https://streamable.com/6s01k
That’s not a second. Maybe a quarter second?

My iPhone doesn’t have that. Only for a few apps and that’s app related.
 

Radon87000

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I’m discussing what’s presented in the video which isn’t proof of anything.
Yes those are my phones. On the 7 there is a 1 second delay. If that video isnt precise enough, do you want me to find another?
 

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Yes those are my phones. On the 7 there is a 1 second delay. If that video isnt precise enough, do you want me to find another?
The video is not precise enough as nothing unusual is shown, except for as it appears to me the buttons aren’t being pressed 100% simultaneously. To me to take all of this time and effort to prove a bug whereby it’s something many claim not to have is a waste.
 

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Everyone needs to remember we are talking about the capacitive home button iPhones.

The physical home buttons perform exactly the same as they always have. You click, the iOS waits a half second or so checking if you will click again for multitasking then the close animation begins. They actually feel a bit faster on iOS 11 because the close animation is slightly faster than iOS 10.

With the iPhone 7 on iOS 10 the iOS does not wait for the second click and the close animation begins instantly every time.

With iOS 11 they introduced the same half second wait to see if you will enter multitasking that exists to the capacitive home button iPhones (7/8) just like the physical home button iPhones always have.

So some people (new iPhone 8 users coming from a physical home button) who haven't experienced the iPhone 7/7+ speedy homebutton responsiveness on iOS 10 have no idea what they were missing and think they don't have the delay when in fact they do.

Like some other poster said it's probably just Apple unifying the behavior of all the home button equipped iPhones for whatever reason.

I will be keeping my iPhone 7 on 10.3.3 because I love the way my phone feels and it is truly more responsive than the iPhone 8 on iOS 11 currently because of this timing change to the home button.
 

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It couldnt be more obvious they did it because of the iPhone X , but people gonna deny.
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It it is really annoying

So frustrating but hopefully I’m replacing it with the x soon
Yeah. Its better to upgrade than bear this headache every day. I have also decided on the X.
 
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It couldnt be more obvious they did it because of the iPhone X , but people gonna deny.
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Yeah. Its better to upgrade than bear this headache every day. I have also decided on the X.

Whatever will you do when the X behaves the same way?
 

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Whatever will you do when the X behaves the same way?
That wont happen because the X has no delay. I have seen the hands on videos.
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The video is not precise enough as nothing unusual is shown, except for as it appears to me the buttons aren’t being pressed 100% simultaneously. To me to take all of this time and effort to prove a bug whereby it’s something many claim not to have is a waste.
I made this gif from iAppleBytes youtube video and slowed it down a little. Here you can clearly see that the iOS 11 animation to close starts after the iOS 10 close animation has ended

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My 1st post is going to stand the test of time and is going to prove Apple's systematic Planned Obsolesence.
 

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Apple has had :

ios 11 beta 2
ios 11 beta 3
ios 11 beta 4
ios 11 beta 5
ios 11 beta 6
ios 11 beta 7
ios 11 beta 8
ios 11 beta 9
ios 11 GM
ios 11.0.1
ios 11.0.2
ios 11.0.3
ios 11.1 beta 1
ios 11.1 beta 2
ios 11.1 beta 3
ios 11.1 beta 4 (GM probably)

and still there's a 1 second delay any time you press the home button on ios 11 using any device including the brand new 8 and 8+

do all of you guys really find this acceptable? you can't possibly tell me that all of the thousand of apple employees just magically "let this slip through" 16 versions of ios 11 and counting.
Given that the vast majority of typical users more than likely won't even notice something that might be different by a fraction of a second, let alone really care about it, doesn't seem all that surprising that it wouldn't be something of much priority.
 
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Given that the vast majority of typical users won't even notice something that might be different by a fraction of a second, let alone really care about it, doesn't seem all that surprising that it wouldn't be something of much priority.
How do you know they dont care? Maybe they are just coping with it like we arE?
 

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How do you know they dont care? Maybe they are just coping with it like we arE?
Well, feel free to show that they care.
I made this gif from iAppleBytes youtube video and slowed it down a little. Here you can clearly see that the iOS 11 animation to close starts after the iOS 10 close animation has ended
That is like perhaps a delay of maybe at best close to 0.25 seconds. Since we are saying that something like 0.78 seconds is about a 1 second delay, this is then about a 0 second delay.
 

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Well, feel free to show that they care.

That is like perhaps a delay of maybe at best close to 0.25 seconds. Since we are saying that something like 0.78 seconds is about a 1 second delay, this is then about a 0 second delay.
Everyone wants a faster phone. Everyone dislikes delays whether noticeable ot not



Go to 1:03 mark. Then make the video full screen. Start your stopwatch when he presses the button and stop it when the animation starts. It will take a few tries to get it right. The delay is unquestionably in the 0.7-0.8 range. Also note its become worse imo since then.

Do you realise the gravity of what I am saying. iOS 11 animation starts after iSO 10 has finished!
 
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That wont happen because the X has no delay. I have seen the hands on videos.
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I made this gif from iAppleBytes youtube video and slowed it down a little. Here you can clearly see that the iOS 11 animation to close starts after the iOS 10 close animation has ended
Putting aside that video shows one specific iphone against another specific iphone that delay is nowhere near your claimed .78 seconds. For all I know my iphones exhibit the delay, but probably the reason I'm not noticing it is the delay is slight as to to be imperceptible. and not even people posting these videos can claim their results are 100% guaranteed without human error.
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Everyone wants a faster phone. Everyone dislikes delays whether noticeable ot not



Go to 1:03 mark. Then make the video full screen. Start your stopwatch when he presses the button and stop it when the animation starts. It will take a few tries to get it right. The delay is unquestionably in the 0.7-0.8 range. Also note its become worse imo since then.

Do you realise the gravity of what I am saying. iOS 11 animation starts after iSO 10 has finished!
IOS 11.0.1 is not worth the time to watch with 11.1 almost out and 11.0.3 the production release. And delays are a necessary part of display interaction, so I do like delays.
 

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iOS 11 animation starts after iOS 10 has finished!. I will leave this fact here and be on my way.
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Putting aside that video shows one specific iphone against another specific iphone that delay is nowhere near your claimed .78 seconds. For all I know my iphones exhibit the delay, but probably the reason I'm not noticing it is the delay is slight as to to be imperceptible. and not even people posting these videos can claim their results are 100% guaranteed without human error.
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IOS 11.0.1 is not worth the time to watch with 11.1 almost out and 11.0.3 the production release.
The home button delay hasnt gotten better at all since iOS 11 Beta 9. Stop giving excuses
 

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iOS 11 animation starts after iOS 10 has finished!. I will leave this fact here and be on my way.
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The home button delay hasnt gotten better at all since iOS 11 Beta 9. Stop giving excuses
Please stop making it worse than it is. If you have to slow down a video to prove a point there is no point to be made.
 

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Please stop making it worse than it is. If you have to slow down a video to prove a point there is no point to be made.
I had to slow down the video because you guys were refusing to acknowledge the delay existed in the first place. This clearly shows the delay. This shows iOS 10 has instant response and iOS 11 doesnt. Period.
 

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I had to slow down the video because you guys were refusing to acknowledge the delay existed in the first place. This clearly shows the delay. This shows iOS 10 has instant response and iOS 11 doesnt. Period.
I personally don't believe any youtube video that pretends to show performance by clicking icons is accurate due to human error. So my opinion is the video is accurate(in other words, real time is recorded), but the testing methodology is flawed leading to a flawed conclusion. If you choose to believe the video is "fact", more power to you. Period.
 
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I personally don't believe any youtube video that pretends to show performance by clicking icons is accurate due to human error. So my opinion is the video is accurate(in other words, real time is recorded), but the testing methodology is flawed leading to a flawed conclusion. If you choose to believe the video is "fact", more power to you. Period.
What is being shown in the video is being observed by me on my own phones in real time. And if you believe the testing methodology is flawed , then in similar iOS 11 vs iOS 11 videos why are both phones evenly matched in quitting apps?
 
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Everyone wants a faster phone. Everyone dislikes delays whether noticeable ot not



Go to 1:03 mark. Then make the video full screen. Start your stopwatch when he presses the button and stop it when the animation starts. It will take a few tries to get it right. The delay is unquestionably in the 0.7-0.8 range. Also note its become worse imo since then.

Do you realise the gravity of what I am saying. iOS 11 animation starts after iSO 10 has finished!
Yes, the gravity of less than a fraction of a second difference. The delay of what you posted earlier wasn't even close to half of the numbers you are mentioning now, and much much less than the references to "seconds" that have been made before.
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This clearly shows the delay. This shows iOS 10 has instant response and iOS 11 doesnt. Period.
Now there's a statement without unnecessary hyperbole and extreme absolutes.
 
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