I can’t comment on the delay because I cannot replicate it.
Apple dropped a feature, they didn’t drop a function. Similar to the headphone jack, one can still use their headphones albeit plugging into a different port.
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Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions
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Apple dropped a feature, they didn’t drop a function. Similar to the headphone jack, one can still use their headphones albeit plugging into a different port.
When there is a list of notifications on the lock screen/notification centre , when you scroll down, there is stuttering. Also when you swipe left to widgets from the home screen and when you scroll down the widgets there are these annoying pauses for a few seconds before it smoothens out. Both are features I use on a daily basis so it’s an annoyance.
Smooth as butter on the lock screen Notification Center. Small stutter on the widgets. I can live with it until it’s addressed.
You do nothing but just derail the topic. You don't give proof, no videos yet try to dismiss our argument. We as in there are more than 12 people who have liked my first post.
Whatever you can say to comfort yourself, you are one of the top posters in this topic. So you are directly contributing to helping us get noticed by Apple. LMAO.
Do not reply to those posts. They are trying to get the thread closed seeing as we have been warned by a mod already
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Apple hasnt fixed this which is all the proof we need. The phone performance has degraded and nothing you post will change this fact
As usual that's not how proofs work, but we knew that already.
So lets clear this up. What proof do you need in order for you to believe Apple did it intentionally?
First, it would need to be something that shows they actually did it intentionally. Saying that the fact that it hasn't been addressed is not proof of that, it only shows that it hasn't been addressed, not the reasons why that's the case or why it's there.
Second, and this is probably more important than the first, it would have to be something that shows a malicious conspiracy, as that is what is one of the bigger ideas that is consistently being tied to things of this nature. Again, nothing aside from theories and suppositions have shown it to be that.
All pretty straightforward and rational, and all that has been brought up before in one form or another in various different discussions about things of this nature even going back to early days of iOS 10, 9, 8, etc. where a number of the same people have participated as well.
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you're making a claim, based on your observations, and your beliefs. proof happens in the real world, requires evidence. personally, i've continually acknowledged that some people are having an issue, but the conspiracy theorists here ignore anyone who says their phone doesn't have the issue; they're being told it's there, they're just not seeing it.
the real world is a big place, requires more than 15 people to 'like' a post; 15 people. how many iphone users are out there??
and if my continued posting helps get apple to investigate, am happy to help... those who have a problem. but as far as apple 'purposely' introducing lag... no one's proved that to be fact.
I don't think apple purposefully changed the response time of the capacative home button (from iOS 10 to iOS 11) just to slow the phone down.
I think they changed it to avoid the bouncy/strange animation you get in iOS 10 when entering multitasking while you are in an app when you don't quite double click the home button fast enough with reduce motion off.
With reduce motion on I never have this this animation. The fade is instant and I think it's still instant on iOS 11 (with reduce motion on) however the delay is there so the animation (with reduce motion off) doesn't start too fast (even though most were fine with it) like it did before on iOS 10.
I think they just unified it across all devices. It's a bummer and it feels less responsive but only iPhone 7/7+ owners who upgraded to iOS 11 will or will not notice the change.
I like many love the instant animation response under iOS 10 with my iPhone 7. And then there are the masses who could care less about the half second delay before things get moving again.
I value speed and instant performance from my home button so therefore I'm staying on iOS 10.3.3 with my 7.
I wish we could get an email response from Craig to clear this up!
I think they changed it to avoid the bouncy/strange animation you get in iOS 10 when entering multitasking while you are in an app when you don't quite double click the home button fast enough with reduce motion off.
With reduce motion on I never have this this animation. The fade is instant and I think it's still instant on iOS 11 (with reduce motion on) however the delay is there so the animation (with reduce motion off) doesn't start too fast (even though most were fine with it) like it did before on iOS 10.
I think they just unified it across all devices. It's a bummer and it feels less responsive but only iPhone 7/7+ owners who upgraded to iOS 11 will or will not notice the change.
I like many love the instant animation response under iOS 10 with my iPhone 7. And then there are the masses who could care less about the half second delay before things get moving again.
I value speed and instant performance from my home button so therefore I'm staying on iOS 10.3.3 with my 7.
I wish we could get an email response from Craig to clear this up!
Apple didn’t drop a feature. They changed the method of said feature. You still have biometric authentication. You don’t lose any functionality authenticating to unlock your device, Apple pay and so on.
If i were to say Apple is slowing down something than it would be touch ID. Its incredibly inconsistant on my 7 Plus on IOS 11.1
There have been reports from various people that their Touch ID experience has noticeably improved and became faster with iOS 11. Seems like a variety of experiences.
Im not going to bother replying to you besides right now, everything is perfect according to you.
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nothing is perfect (ios 11's calculator, for example... yikes). but not everyone's experiences are the same. why is it so hard for some people to grasp that?
Haven't seen any difference. If you haven't already try retraining a finger. Worth a shot
Quite clearly not even close to what I said, but given the spin some like to put on things thst others say, doesn't seem surprising, unfortunately.
There are somethings which are not expressly said but implied. For example, when you scroll down the list of apps in cellular settings, the list stutters and this list has been stuttering since iOS 9. Its been 2 releases and its never been fixed. This proves Apple is not interested in fixing it. You are not going to hear Apple come out and expressly say the home button delay wont ber fixed. Its communicated through the releases
This is easy to prove. This may seem like malice to us customers but it makes perfect sense from Apple's viewpoint. The majority of newer iPhones are bought when trhe phone is being hyped and people are reading about it in reviews everywhere. If you will observe the trend of all iOS releases in the past, older devices are slowed down but as future versions are released things improve, but the performance improves only once the maximum sales in the release quarter are realised and towards the tail end of the year.
Apple wants everyone to buy the X. Its their true flagship. Therefore they simply slowed the 7 down a little so that when customers play with an iPhone X or an Android phone (Apple won't like this one) they will realise just how much faster and more responsive it is. The counterpoint here is why would Apple release the 8? Apple can't make enough of the X to sell them which is where the 8 comes in but Apple knows that the X is still going to end up cannibalising the 8 and those who buy the X are in far greater numbers than the 8 and they would still prefer it if the customer orders a X and waits till January/Feb to get it instead of getting the 8 as it means higher margins. But Apple didnt want to take a risk here that those with the older phones and who cant get the X this year because of delays have nothing to look forward to this year which is why the 8 was released but Apple still slowed down the button of the 8 because they are dangling the ultra fast X in front of those owners so they get the the X at its higher price next year.
iPhone 7 enjoyed the luxury of being the flagship phone for a year which is why Apple gave it the love it deserved in the form of an ultra fast home button. The 8 is the middle step child no one wants sadly and will fade into irrelevance like the 5c once X releases
Or apple slowed it down for a functionality reason. I like the fast home button on 10.3, but I did find getting multitasking required a really fast double click or sometimes it opened after the app was closed and therefore lagged behind.
And again none of that is proof, that's the point. They are suppositions that can fit a theory and thus make sense in supporting it, but that doesn't make them proof.
So let us say this issue isn't fixed till iOS 11.3.3. You will still say it's unintentional?
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Instead of forcing it on all phone owners then they should let us set the click speed manually in settings so everyone is happy. I would still take a minor animation lag over a slower button.
Apple and choice dont go that well together
EDIT: Well they allow the vibration on the home button as a choice.
What you are saying and asking won't prove or disprove what you are referencing.
I'm not sure how else to show something that's fairly clear to see when looked at rationally. Perhaps a different example that would hopefully not involve a bias of some sort?
Let's say you are taking out some trash and as you are outside a small piece of paper falls out of the trash and lands by the side. Now, does whether or not you pick up that piece of paper at all (and whether or not you even notice it right away or not) say, let alone prove, anything about your intent in relation to why that piece of paper is there?
The only thing that says something about any intent on your part would be how that piece of paper actually got to be there, not whether or not you notice it, or whether or not you pick it up, or even how soon you pick it up, if you do pick it up.
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