Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions

[I7guy]

At least Apple responded to your bug saying it won’t be fixed. Mine is still open.
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Because it does not have an immediate solution.

This calculator issue has a solution within your control and thankfully Apple even allows you to delete their own stock calculator app. Something which has an immediate solution makes it a lower priority than one which doesn’t.

I also thank Apple for this bug. If it wasn’t for them, I would never have ventured into the App Store and found such an awesome calculator app. Not only does it simulate a button press using the Taptic Engine, it also has the button push down animation and I can erase numbers using the gestures.

The home button does not produce a wrong result, no matter how much spin is applied. The calculator bug does. For you the home button is an interface glitch that doesn’t interfere with the intended outcome. The calculator bug does. Not to mention the thread premise still hasn’t been proved.
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Which is noticeable if you own an iOS 10 device. Input lag never takes more than 0.5-0.7 seconds on any device.

I’m discussing a difference on my devices of .1 seconds if that. The difference between 5.3 and 5.4 seconds to 60. Not really discernible. Within the margin of human error on all these “videos “.

 

[Radon87000]

The home button does not produce a wrong result, no matter how much spin is applied. The calculator bug does. For you the home button is an interface glitch that doesn’t interfere with the intended outcome. The calculator bug does. Not to mention the thread premise still hasn’t been proved.

I only care about a problem when it doesn't have a solution. If something has a solution I use that and get on with life. The thread's premise has already been proven and this issue has been observed by me on multiple devices outside and since almost everyone uses iPhones it's easy to see it even when glancing at a random phone. My 7 Plus on a clean install doesn't have the issue on iOS 10 but does on iOS 11. It's a software problem and it's the same software on all phones.

The calculator n is also an isolated issue which the majority do not notice just like the home button. It arises mostly when you are adding single digit numbers, something which can be done using your own intelligence . The calculator is only used for big calculations and since on those calculations you tend to type slowly the bug doesn't arise.

 

[I7guy]

I only care about a problem when it doesn't have a solution. If something has a solution I use that and get on with life. The thread's premise has already been proven and this issue has been observed by me on multiple devices outside and since almost everyone uses iPhones it's easy to see it even when glancing at a random phone. My 7 Plus on a clean install doesn't have the issue on iOS 10 but does on iOS 11. It's a software problem and it's the same software on all phones.

The calculator n is also an isolated issue which the majority do not notice. It arises mostly when you are adding single digit numbers, something which can be done using your own intelligence . The calculator is only used for big calculations and since on those calculations you tend to type slowly the bug doesn't arise.

I only care about something that is blatantly wrong. We have different priorities. An interface glitch I get on with my life. A slowdown that doesn’t exist I don’t worry about. The threads premise hasn’t been proved and I’m still attempting to find the one second lag.

You think the majority notices the “glitch “ but doesn’t notice the calc bug. I think the majority doesn’t notice the glitch because it doesn’t exist for most.

So there we have it.

 

[Radon87000]

The home button does not produce a wrong result, no matter how much spin is applied. The calculator bug does. For you the home button is an interface glitch that doesn’t interfere with the intended outcome. The calculator bug does. Not to mention the thread premise still hasn’t been proved.
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I’m discussing a difference on my devices of .1 seconds if that. The difference between 5.3 and 5.4 seconds to 60. Not really discernible. Within the margin of human error on all these “videos “.

The margin of error does not seem to arise when comparing iOS 11 to iOS 11. You would think it would happen there as well. And before you say the problem is not discernible use a device on iOS 10 and compare it to iOS 11. Any delay going beyond 0 seconds is noticeable. If the delay was a difference between 0.4 and 0,7 it may not have been noticeable but it was 0 earlier which makes this noticeable.

 

[I7guy]

The margin of error does not seem to arise when comparing iOS 11 to iOS 11. You would think it would happen there as well. And before you say the problem is not discernible use a device on iOS 10 and compare it to iOS 11. Any delay going beyond 0 seconds is noticeable. If the delay was a difference between 0.4 and 0,7 it may not have been noticeable but it was 0 earlier which makes this noticeable.

No, I’m saying the apps close instantly or at least very fast on my idevices. You said one second and no video shows that so it seems you are not being consistent in a post to post basis.

 

[Radon87000]

i don't care about the calculator (altho, yes, i'd like it fixed). and some note7 batteries exploding doesn't mean they all explode. you're claiming that the home button issue is universal, yet numerous people on this forum don't have the problem. are we all lying, or too stupid to see it? or is it just possible that not everyone has the problem?

what seems more logical??

and you're saying apple caused the button to slow down, yet have never proved that. meanwhile, what exactly do you want from this thread? everyone to say "yes, you're right about everything"?

You think Samsung is mad for recalling all the Note 7 devices when it wasn't proven whether they could explode. Their mobile division suffered a heavy set back there. Do you think it's possible that since all the Note 7 were using the same hardware they could all explode at some point and those 50 phones were the indicator of a widespread problem?

You can't see the problem is what I am saying. Nothing stupid about it. No one in my family notices this on my phone. So that doesn't mean the issue does not exist According to you it doesn't because my family doesn't have an issue with the home button on my phone.

How many gifs and videos should we post? And if hose videos are having human error how does that explain the uniformity when they compare iOS 11 to ios11?
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No, I’m saying the apps close instantly or at least very fast on my idevices. You said one second and no video shows that so it seems you are not being consistent in a post to post basis.

The close animation starts after you finish the button press. On iOS 10 it starts simultaneously as you finish pressing the button

 

[C DM]

The calculator n is also an isolated issue which the majority do not notice just like the home button. It arises mostly when you are adding single digit numbers, something which can be done using your own intelligence . The calculator is only used for big calculations and since on those calculations you tend to type slowly the bug doesn't arise.

Feel free to post that in calculator bug discussion threads and see what people will reply with to that.

 

[macfacts]

So I’ve got an iPhone SE running iOS 10 and an iPhone 7 and 8 both running 11.1 beta.

The latter two devices have the lag, and the iPhone SE doesn’t.

I filed a radar bug but it was closed.

Closed. Aka won't fix, aka working as intended, aka done on purpose.

 

[Radon87000]

Feel free to post that in calculator bug discussion threads and see what people will reply with to that.

Use an alternative app. Is that hard? Can you show me an alternative solution to this home button issue?

 

[C DM]

Use an alternative app. Is that hard? Can you show me an alternative solution to this home button issue?

That's what I'm saying, post that in one of those threads and see what reaction you'll get. Then you'll see what reaction that some people in a thread like this one get when they don't feel as strongly about the issue.

 

[Feenician]

Why does thread still exist? What remains to be debated? Apple decided to have all devices with a button wait the same amount of time to check for a double press. It’s somewhere around half a second. That’s it. There is nothing to discuss. Take your pills, people.

 

[I7guy]

You think Samsung is mad for recalling all the Note 7 devices when it wasn't proven whether they could explode. Their mobile division suffered a heavy set back there. Do you think it's possible that since all the Note 7 were using the same hardware they could all explode at some point and those 50 phones were the indicator of a widespread problem?

You can't see the problem is what I am saying. Nothing stupid about it. No one in my family notices this on my phone. So that doesn't mean the issue does not exist According to you it doesn't because my family doesn't have an issue with the home button on my phone.

How many gifs and videos should we post? And if hose videos are having human error how does that explain the uniformity when they compare iOS 11 to ios11?
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The close animation starts after you finish the button press. On iOS 10 it starts simultaneously as you finish pressing the button

You said 1 second. Instant for me is nowhere near the claimed one second which no video shows; or even half second or even quarter of a second.

 

[d5aqoëp]

Closed. Aka won't fix, aka working as intended, aka done on purpose.

That itself is the point of this thread. Done on purpose, aka Planned Obsolescence.

 

[I7guy]

That itself is the point of this thread. Done on purpose, aka Planned Obsolescence.

No because apps close instantly on my iphone 7 or 6s; the same as always from previous “stellar” iOS releases. Far from claimed one second in post 1. Apple may not fix your speciy issue, but your conclusion aka opinion is not a fact much less remotely connected to the “planned obsolescence “ meme.

 

[Radon87000]

You said 1 second. Instant for me is nowhere near the claimed one second which no video shows; or even half second or even quarter of a second.

That video is before iOS 11.1 beta. This is my home button on iOS 11.1 where it got worse. Its was pretty bad to begin with. Note my click speed in the video is on default and all accessibility shortcuts turned off

http://www.videosprout.com/video?id=e0066695-06a3-46b2-87b3-fe59926ffea6.

This is my last video. I am not posting any more and banging my head against the wall
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No because apps close instantly on my iphone 7 or 6s; the same as always from previous “stellar” iOS releases. Far from claimed one second in post 1. Apple may not fix your speciy issue, but your conclusion aka opinion is not a fact much less remotely connected to the “planned obsolescence “ meme.

Evemn if we assume what you say is true and a small section of the iOS userbase is affected by this, its still millions of customers and planned obsolescence was done with them.
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Why does thread still exist? What remains to be debated? Apple decided to have all devices with a button wait the same amount of time to check for a double press. It’s somewhere around half a second. That’s it. There is nothing to discuss. Take your pills, people.

Because THEY SLOWED IT DOWN. And when the X is releasing. You got to wonder if its a coincidence

 

[I7guy]

That video is before iOS 11.1 beta. This is my home button on iOS 11.1 where it got worse. Its was pretty bad to begin with. Note my click speed in the video is on default and all accessibility shortcuts turned off

http://www.videosprout.com/video?id=e0066695-06a3-46b2-87b3-fe59926ffea6.

This is my last video. I am not posting any more and banging my head against the wall
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Evemn if we assume what you say is true and a small section of the iOS userbase is affected by this, its still millions of customers and planned obsolescence was done with them.
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Because THEY SLOWED IT DOWN. And when the X is releasing. You got to wonder if its a coincidence

Ahh I do see a .1 delay; far from the one second claimed in the first post. So interrupting the opening animation is instant, but using the home button to close an app causes a millisecond delay according to you. And this should be fixed before the calc bug.

But the “planned obsolescence “ meme just doesn’t follow.

 

[Radon87000]

Ahh I do see a .1 delay; far from the one second claimed in the first post. So interrupting the opening animation is instant, but using the home button to close an app causes a millisecond delay according to you. And this should be fixed before the calc bug.

I am seeing a 1 second delay in the video posted above.

The calculator is a non issue with an alternative solution.

 

[I7guy]

I am seeing a 1 second delay in the video posted above.

The calculator is a non issue with an alternative solution.

The .1 seconds delay is a non-issue, I am not downloading an alternative app. Apple should fix the calc bug first; which they probably will.

 

[Radon87000]

The .1 seconds delay is a non-issue,

To you. Not to me. Although Dec 15 is coming soon enough when I get freed of this delay

I am not downloading an alternative app. Apple should fix the calc bug first; which they probably will.

Enjoy that laggy calculator. I am enjoying perfect response since Day 1.

 

[I7guy]

To you. Not to me. Although Dec 15 is coming soon enough when I get freed of this delay

Now we understand each other; “to you not me”.

Enjoy that laggy calculator. I am enjoying perfect response since Day 1.

To paraphrase Mark Twain: “the rumors of my home button delay are greatly exaggerated.” I am and have been enjoying instant home button response as you have been enjoying another calc app. To each their own.

 

[FFR]

My 2017 iPad Pro 12.9 home button on iOS 10 currently blows away my iPhone and it’s not even a close contest in responsiveness. I will post a video here later individually if both of them so you can see the delay. Stop this denial.

You should post a you tube video using both.

 

[steve62388]

I'm pretty sure this thread passed the threshold for appropriate debate a long time ago.

Repetition. If you repeat the same claims without adding new information, we might remove your posts. Again, if you started the thread, then we may remove or close the thread.

 

[Radon87000]

I'm pretty sure this thread passed the threshold for appropriate debate a long time ago.

Repetition. If you repeat the same claims without adding new information, we might remove your posts. Again, if you started the thread, then we may remove or close the thread.

New information has been added from before. A guy’s feedback claim was closed. This means it’s done on purpose. The thread needs to be open as we progress towards 11.3.3 by which time we can confidently assess Apple’s intentions with no disagreements. C DM and some others here claim the iOS 10 home button issue was fixed on iOS 10.3. Let’s wait and see

 

[steve62388]

New information has been added from before. A guy’s feedback claim was closed. This means it’s done on purpose. The thread needs to be open as we progress towards 11.3.3 by which time we can confidently assess Apple’s intentions with no disagreements. C DM and some others here claim the iOS 10 home button issue was fixed on iOS 10.3. Let’s wait and see

From over 1000 posts you have one new piece of information. [slow clap]

 

[Radon87000]

You should post a you tube video using both.

Here. The iPad 12.9 is on iOS 10 while iPhone 7 Plus on iOS 11

http://www.videosprout.com/video?id=0b8464fb-ae8a-47e5-aefe-fe10bc98088a