Every year, with every new product launch, someone says Apple has lost their mind. This would indicate that no one has lost their mind, except perhaps for those who expect Apple to suddenly stop offering expensive products.
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They forgot the $7500 (in 1997 money) 20th Anniversary Macintosh
And the reality is Apple's had practically the same pricing back in 2018. I'm guessing there were plenty enough takers back then that they didn't think it necessary to lower their base prices.
$2000 in 2021 is almost nothing these days
It is a fair price for a device that you can use it for 3-4 years
It is a fair price for a device that you can use it for 3-4 years
much as this thread is cringeworthy, as in, we get it, you're pissed off so you can stop calling it stupid in every comment. though i agree the cost to jump to 16gb ram is a quite tall order, considering people would have likely chosen to bump the RAM and withheld from spending the extra to hit 1tb ssd.
The price is the price bro.
If you can’t afford it, you can’t afford it. I feel sorry for you. But I ordered the 12.9 with no regrets.
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this is besides the point, and $2000 is indeed quite a bit of money depending on where you fall in the economic scale.
the longevity of a product should not be the sole determinant of its price. a hammer can last decades. by your calculation, it should thus carry a 5 figure price tag for something that you can get good quality for around $10 on a good sale day in the US.
apple's prices on hardware are typically NOT a fair price, at all. 16GB of ram and a 1TB SSD for an extra $700 is *NOT* fair. you want to use the year as a point of reference, 16GB of fast DDR4 ram and a top tier 1tb PCIe 4.0 SSD could run $300 if you're having a good day on slickdeals or other price hunting. otherwise, $400 normally. if you're willing to acknowledge that most people dont need (see: wont appreciate the difference of) the higher end parts, then that number can pitfall, thus making $700 just really a pinch to the nerve.
their base tier 12.9" pro is not terrible value really, though it should start at 256gb instead. but apple is clinically behind the curve on storage, probably on purpose to make the step up generally more appealing.
$2000 for something to only have 1tb of storage, 16gb of ram, and it doesnt get to run an OS that will let it take advantage of all that power, is really just highway robbery at this juncture. if they announced it alongside boosting iPadOS to run like a desktop OS, there would be less groaning, but the hardware value would still be pathetic.
its saving grace is that the display and arm chip are both pretty fantastic, so at the "lower" tier 12.9 the value proposition is better. top quality HDR displays even in smaller sizes arent particularly cheap. pc gamers usually have to spend at least $500+ to get a 27"-ish display that has a proper HDR implementation that isnt "vesa hdr 400 / 600".
there are HDR tv sets with less peak brightness and local dimming zones than this thing.
The newer generations are certainly more expensive than the first couple of generations but I think the main reason the price seems high to some like myself is the knowledge that currently our existing pros are still performing well. If my gen 2 12.9 felt longer in the tooth then I would be more compelled to purchase an upgrade. As iPadOS advances the newer models will become much more compelling for sure.
That’s the exact one I ordered.
Look bud, you make this come off as a troll post so here is a nice dose of reality for you. I make 1/2 to the full amount of the iPad you have listed per day in my work.
So while you play on your 10.5” for 4-6 hours a day as you said elsewhere, I need to use as fast a device as possible in my work in a small form factor not more than 2 hours a day.
That means me spending a day or two’s income on a proper tool for what I do is money well spent based on a concept beyond the grasp of your thinking.
I mean really, who in their right mind would post this kind of crap if it were not a troll post?
I fail to see the problem that OP has? Where can you get comparable product for cheaper? Microsoft Surface is at least a couple hundred $$$ more expensive, and that is without cellular...
first of all, you’re on an Apple fan site. You’re gonna get lots of biased answers here from people who won’t hear anything negative said about Apple.
the prices are ridiculous and Apples strategy is exploitive. You want Mini LED? £999 minimum. Too bad if you prefer 11” size. You want 16GB ram but only need 256GB space? That’s an extra £550.
apple hasn’t lost its mind or gone crazy. They know exactly what they are doing. They know people will happily cough up the money. The people who have lost their minds are the ones who are handing over the money.
the prices are ridiculous and Apples strategy is exploitive. You want Mini LED? £999 minimum. Too bad if you prefer 11” size. You want 16GB ram but only need 256GB space? That’s an extra £550.
apple hasn’t lost its mind or gone crazy. They know exactly what they are doing. They know people will happily cough up the money. The people who have lost their minds are the ones who are handing over the money.
That is why Apple has different variations of iPads.. If you don’t need the “pro” performance, then you don’t need to pay that much. I upgraded my Pro 10.5” to the iPad Air 4 and it was the best decision I have made and saved a ton of money.
256gb 11” is fine for me so that’s what I ordered. I’d rather put the remaining money into something I need or want (Not sure if that will be another Mac down the road.)
I do not need the latest and greatest bells and whistles or larger size. 8GB of RAM was the reason why I jumped. Now that I can connect a USB-C drive to the iPP there’s no reason why I need to spend more.
I do not need the latest and greatest bells and whistles or larger size. 8GB of RAM was the reason why I jumped. Now that I can connect a USB-C drive to the iPP there’s no reason why I need to spend more.
I guess it depends on the person. I would not pay that much because as it is iPad is not a device that can be my main and only device. I can see myself paying that much if I knew that this device would service all of my needs and I would not need another computer (desktop or laptop). I mean either way now if I sum up what I pay for my laptop plus the iPad Pro it goes beyond this price 
. I do not want to pay more than that though so if I will have to keep buying laptop plus iPad Pro than yeah I would not pay that much .
. I do not want to pay more than that though so if I will have to keep buying laptop plus iPad Pro than yeah I would not pay that much .
My first Mac was a Classic II, which cost me my entire student loan for that year (£600 in 1992/3). I still have it! My first car only cost £500 the year prior to that.
My incoming Pro is about twice that price, 30 years later. Apple has never been the cheapest on offer, but the products are of a high quality and built to last. Resale values are also higher than other devices, so upgrading is less of a hit.
I went with the base model cellular, as I am mainly working in the cloud on standard Office apps and streaming. If I were a professional artist, video or sound editor, I wouldn't consider £2k for a valuable tool like the highest spec iPP unreasonable at all.
My incoming Pro is about twice that price, 30 years later. Apple has never been the cheapest on offer, but the products are of a high quality and built to last. Resale values are also higher than other devices, so upgrading is less of a hit.
I went with the base model cellular, as I am mainly working in the cloud on standard Office apps and streaming. If I were a professional artist, video or sound editor, I wouldn't consider £2k for a valuable tool like the highest spec iPP unreasonable at all.
This. A million times this. This should become an automated response from a macrumors forum bot everytime a thread like this is opened.
OP clearly doesn‘t need 16 GB RAM, but he wants it, and thus „has to“ go to the 2nd highest tier, the 1 TB model. Also why include Apple Care+ in the price, is it normal to compare prices of products including an insurance policy? No, it isn‘t. Also, not many people really „need“ the cellular version, if money is tight they could always use their phone as a hot spot. So the alleged „price“ is jacked up and up and up by artificial, imagined „needs“ and pure conveniences. And then the useless complaining starts.
People want the best. More often than not, Apple is the best. If you don‘t want to pay too much, get the base model; it‘s still miles better than any other f‘ing phone/tablet/laptop/smartwatch/etc.
Yep.
BMWs are expensive. A Hyundai will do the same job. But you don't want a Hyundai, you want a BMW. So you'll need to pony up the 'BMW tax'.
Or just buy an 116i, which will do all you need in a car.
On a similar note, I often read complaints that "A VW Golf is 35000€, thats insane" but when I look it up you need to really spec up a GTI and NOT get any rebate to pay such prices.
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New iPad AIR will do just fine for 99.99% of all iPad users.
It's unfair to include Applecare, as it's reasonable price, and not really necessary for most I'd argue.
That being said, I think the base price is somewhat reasonable, but Apples storage price bumps are ridiculous.
The iPad pro really should start at 256gb now, with a much smaller price increase for the next tiers.
But then that's how they have always operated.
That being said, I think the base price is somewhat reasonable, but Apples storage price bumps are ridiculous.
The iPad pro really should start at 256gb now, with a much smaller price increase for the next tiers.
But then that's how they have always operated.
I feel sorry for your cheapness.
This is completely beside the point since Apple uses neither DDR4 RAM nor PCIe 4.0 SSDs. You are looking at a tablet and saying that you can build a comparable custom PC box for less money. Well, yes, you can. But it's not going to be a tablet, is it?
If you want to claim that Apple's prices are disproportionate, you have to demonstrate it on comparable devices. And for similar specs other tablets actually end up being more expensive than an iPad Pro. Why? Because this technology is not cheap.
How is this exploitive? Do you know how much it costs to make an miniLED display of this kind? Or what's probably more important, how scarce the supply of the required components is? Show us someone who offers comparable display for less money.
One should never throw money away. That doesn’t mean refraining from luxury purchases.
Only you can decide if something, an iPad, a meal at a fancy restaurant, an off road vehicle, has value to you.
I would love to have enough wealth to buy whatever I want. I don’t and thus I can’t.
And I’m glad Apple, and other companies, make high end gear, as today’s high end is tomorrow’s mainstream.
But I, like most people, have never had the urge to bitch about on the inter webs.
Given how well the company is doing, the last word I would use to describe Apple’s pricing policies is “stupid”.
Good luck deciding if there is a iPad that is right for you.
I guess it depends on a use case. One can decide what to buy based on needs not on the brand or overblown specs. Apple IS in majority super expensive. I do believe that even if you have lots of money it is a wastefulness to throw them away. You can save and buy something else. This is an electronic tool.
As for the tablet a lot of people can be super happy with Samsung Tab A7 for the fraction of the iPad price.
As for the tablet a lot of people can be super happy with Samsung Tab A7 for the fraction of the iPad price.
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