“Siri, when was my last flight” just yielded this, so don’t get your hopes too high
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
'Apple Intelligence' Personal AI Unveiled for iPhone, iPad, and Mac
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
“Siri, when was my last flight” just yielded this, so don’t get your hopes too high
Did you see the demo where it uses ChatGPT? In those cases a dialog appears asking if you want to use ChatGPT. That is not part of the other experiences. They were very clear that that was making a clear distinction between their AI and ChatGPT. The text rewriting is not exclusive to ChatGPT. Other LLMs can do that including Apple's Ajax LLM.
I'm extremely skeptical about this. I'm all for privacy so Apple also has their hands tied. I use GPT voice to keep track of random stuff. I would have loved if new AI Siri would manage my day to day more. Such as I just want to tell Siri (naturally) what items i'm missing in my fridge and automatically set reminders and location reminders when I'm near a shop. Apple has this opportunity to make a local assistant. I don't need one where I'm always checking my phone and asking question after question like in the demo.
I'm pretty sure the on device stuff and the compute stuff on Apple's server are Apple's own technology and not OpenAI's.
Are you saying OpenAIs LLMs are going to run on device and on Apple's servers? Did OpenAI provide the source code for these LLMs so they could be compiled as part of iOS?
I hear and understand that point (it's fair), but has their processor really changed THAT much in 1-year with the same number of cores? They've been advertising that they have the most-advanced AI chips in the industry for years now, but, Android smartphones released much prior to the iPhone 14 are capable of the same on-device AI features.
I suppose my counter would be - if Nike releases (2) high performances shoes (same model name), one in 2022 and the other in 2023, do you think the resistance/added comfort/capabilities would be far apart?
Last edited:
Are you saying that you've already install the beta with the all new Siri, then? 'cuz otherwise... 😉
Yes, that's the way I interpret it.
There are basically two types of artificial intelligence technologies here.
1) One internal/on device using Apple's own machine learning, neural networks, LLMs, transformers etc.
2) External AIs where ChatGPT is one instance
Yes
Maybe it needs hours to index things… Don’t know, but this result is a fail.
Last edited:
Apple Intelligence and the updated Siri aren’t part of the current beta, I think.
Apple started trying a lot harder with their Neural Engines... they have improved a lot. It can't be compared with annual running shoe updates.
So how do you know Apple Intelligence is using OpenAIs technology?
To me there seems to be to different technology stacks here:
1) Internal / on-device which uses Apple's machine learning, neural networks, LLMs, transformers etc.
2) External which integrates with Siri and other frameworks which ChatGPT is one instance and more are coming later.
I’m really thinking it’s a ram thing. Everything that has been confirmed has 8 gigs of ram or more.
Although, the mail, and priority features and even the Genmoji’s I’m pretty sure you don’t need 8 gigs of ram for that. Since every iPhone I have had have those features via Outlook or Spark.
I otherwise agree with your post, but you're comparing TOPS figures that cannot be compared due to differing levels of accuracy. (8bit vs 16bit)
… the A16 doesn’t have 8GB of RAM, and the A17 Pro does.The fact that the "Apple Intelligence" features are only available on the iPhone 15 Pro/Max is absolutely unnecessary, and pushing towards e-waste. Is has the same number of "neural cores" as the iPhone 14 Pro/Max ffs!
In fact, all of the supported devices have 8 Gigs of ram or better. I think that’s the constant.
I tried to research this topic (8bit vs 16bit), but could not find good information. Do you happen to have a source for this?
Artificial Intelligence...and Artificial Performance
<a href="https://community.cadence.com/cadence_blogs_8/b/breakfast-bytes"></a>Do you know what this is? It's a benchmark. The Ordnance Survey (OS) of Britain created around half-a-million of these, and the horizontal line at the top is known for each one as a height above sea-level. Actually, it...
community.cadence.com
To some extent, TOPS numbers we are fed are bullsh*t pie in the sky stuff.
I wonder as well. Many of Siri's failings occur when I ask HomePod mini to run a shortcut or otherwise read out the answer to a question.
Elon Musk trashes Apple AI.
Apple has completely lost its way. Only thing they have left is financial engineering. The company desperately needs a reboot. I think one way or another (whether by choice or by being forced by the market), they will get it.
Apple has completely lost its way. Only thing they have left is financial engineering. The company desperately needs a reboot. I think one way or another (whether by choice or by being forced by the market), they will get it.
Last edited:
Apple Intelligence. It's using AI in an Apple-like way: to further bring CON-neck-tivity between you and your device and loved ones, privately, securely, personally.
With ChatGPT from OpenAI integrated into Siri and Writing Tools, you get even more expertise when it might be helpful for you — no need to jump between tools. Siri can tap into ChatGPT for certain requests, including questions about photos or documents. And with Compose in Writing Tools, you can create and illustrate original content from scratch.
Some cool use cases, can’t help but notice that for few of them it still feels longer to tell or type what you want it to do than actually doing it yourself.
We’ll see how this works when people start using it. And we’ll see how reliable this is, as AI is known to be…quirky, lol
We’ll see how this works when people start using it. And we’ll see how reliable this is, as AI is known to be…quirky, lol
With ChatGPT from OpenAI integrated into Siri and Writing Tools, you get even more expertise when it might be helpful for you — no need to jump between tools. Siri can tap into ChatGPT for certain requests, including questions about photos or documents. And with Compose in Writing Tools, you can create and illustrate original content from scratch.
By the time iOS releases, Apple will likely have a new generation of phones as well. Plus any supported Macs and iPads. The auto industry works this way as well. Concept cars reveal fatures/specs years ahead of general availability in mid market products, then luxury models, then your average Ford.
With ChatGPT from OpenAI integrated into Siri and Writing Tools, you get even more expertise when it might be helpful for you — no need to jump between tools. Siri can tap into ChatGPT for certain requests, including questions about photos or documents. And with Compose in Writing Tools, you can create and illustrate original content from scratch.
I thought the same as well. It's why I don't use predictive text. It takes longer time and more actions to read through several predicted words and select each one than if I just typed or dictated what I want to say.