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Lol no silly I've owned my Air 2 since 2014
LOL, ok, thanks for the clarification.

I'm in the market for a new iPad but will be waiting I don't see the point in spending top dollar for a device that may be replaced in 3 weeks regardless of how good it still may be.
Straw man alert...No one advocated "spending top dollar". Shop around, there are deals to be had.

And if no updated 12.9 Pro is announced in 3 weeks, then what?
 
Lol no silly I've owned my Air 2 since 2014, I'm in the market for a new iPad but will be waiting I don't see the point in spending top dollar for a device that may be replaced in 3 weeks regardless of how good it still may be. I do agree the iPad Pro issue isnt really its age more so the fact that they are charging full price for a device that has a possibility to be replaced in a few weeks or atleast surpassed by a new 10.5 inch model.

Exactly my thinking too. For the cost I want to use this thing for a few years, so would rather wait just a little while longer to see what happens
 
Exactly my thinking too. For the cost I want to use this thing for a few years, so would rather wait just a little while longer to see what happens
Fair enough. My point is, if there is no 12.9 Pro update announced in 3 weeks, the current model will easily last a few years. And if one isn't announced in 3 weeks, won't you wait until Sept/Oct/Nov (which rumors have said is the next windows of opportunity)?
 
Basing decisions on a device's "age" is a bit out of step with what is actually going on.

Even though the 12.9 Pro is 1.5+ years old, it is still the flagship tablet for "getting things done". Before anyone says, "but TrueTone", yes it is nice to have for some (I don't want it) but it's absence on the 12.9 Pro in no way detracts from it. But that's my opinion.

4GB RAM. Some brush that off as simply accommodating the larger screen. But if you do the math, the break-even point is around 3GB... that means that a 3GB 12.9 Pro would be comparable to a 2GB 9.7 Pro. The fact that the 12.9 Pro has 4GB means that it has more "headroom" than the other iPads.

Except for a few unique use cases, there isn't anything that is taxing the 12.9 Pro. Think about that. 1.5+ years later, it easily handles the latest version of iOS and apps as it did on day-1. That is pretty remarkable.

Another big "tell" in support of the longevity of the 12.9 Pro is the 2017 iPad. Apple just released that a few months ago. They're not going to make any major changes to iOS that would cause it to bog down so soon after it was released.

IMO, any updated iPad hardware will focus on providing unique capabilities (when compared to previous gens). Something along the lines of the smart connector... for example: USB C port, etc.

Besides, after all of the agonizing you did with what to buy, didn't you end up recently purchasing an Air 2? :eek:;)

This is a very good point, the 12.9" iPad Pro is great i use mine daily and it NEVER get's taxed! i have multiple Safari tabs open, split screen and picture in picture sometimes as well and it doesn't slow down. I've also used iMovie and rendered video and it doesn't slow down. I've been very impressed with the iPad Pro 12.9" and the only reason i want to upgrade is because i was the 256GB version that wasn't available when the 12.9" iPad Pro was first announced. I will be watching WWDC to see if the 10.5" iPad Pro is announced and if it is i will look into whether it will be as powerful as the 12.9" iPad Pro and if the screen difference will be noticeable because i love the 12.9" iPad Pro screen.

On the software side there have only been rumours that Apple are looking at adding more "Pro" features such as being able to annotate within Safari and making notes on the screen while in apps like Mail, messages and so on, that rumour goes far back as last year so it's possible we could see it in IOS 11, another rumours is that they are working on a feature that would allow users to hook the iPad Pro up to the Mac and use it like a cintiq style.
 
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Fair enough. My point is, if there is no 12.9 Pro update announced in 3 weeks, the current model will easily last a few years. And if one isn't announced in 3 weeks, won't you wait until Sept/Oct/Nov (which rumors have said is the next windows of opportunity)?

No, if one isn't announced at WWDC I'll purchase anyway as I need to start my studies.
 
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LOL, ok, thanks for the clarification.


Straw man alert...No one advocated "spending top dollar". Shop around, there are deals to be had.

And if no updated 12.9 Pro is announced in 3 weeks, then what?
That would be okay, if the 10.5 inch is improved enough I might just upgrade, looking to the past trends to new Apple products you can assume I will buy the new iPad Pro, in fact Id line up to get it first even, Ive always wanted to do that, it looks fun...not the waiting but receiving the new product when they open the store.:D
 
9.7 will be discontinued
10.5's price will be the same as today's 9.7's

That's vague. Do you mean the 9.7" iPad Pro will be discontinued? That seems a bit absurd given that it was launched a little more than a year ago.

The iPad Air 2 is no longer on sale officially, and the 2017 iPad was launched literally 2 months ago....
 
That's vague. Do you mean the 9.7" iPad Pro will be discontinued? That seems a bit absurd given that it was launched a little more than a year ago.

The iPad Air 2 is no longer on sale officially, and the 2017 iPad was launched literally 2 months ago....

Must mean the 9.7 iPad Pro
 
That's vague. Do you mean the 9.7" iPad Pro will be discontinued? That seems a bit absurd given that it was launched a little more than a year ago.

The iPad Air 2 is no longer on sale officially, and the 2017 iPad was launched literally 2 months ago....
If they do a Edge to Edge 10.5 inch Pro I wouldn't be surprised to see the 9.7 Pro discontinued and then have the budget iPad line contain the Mini and iPad (9.7) while Pro users receive either 10.5 or 12.9 options. Maybe its just me but I see no need for three different iPad screen sizes in the Pro lineup
 
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If they do a Edge to Edge 10.5 inch Pro I wouldn't be surprised to see the 9.7 Pro discontinued and then have the budget iPad line contain the Mini and iPad (9.7) while Pro users receive either 10.5 or 12.9 options. Maybe its just me but I see no need for three different iPad screen sizes in the Pro lineup

Agree
 
9.7 will be discontinued
10.5's price will be the same as today's 9.7's

Pulpconselor - with Kuo's prediction going in the direction you suggested, I am becoming curious.
Did your source drop any hints about OLED in the upcoming device? Or do we have to wait another year?

Thanks and Cheers!
 
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Pulpconselor - with Kuo's prediction going in the direction you suggested, I am becoming curious.
Did your source drop any hints about OLED in the upcoming device? Or do we have to wait another year?

Thanks and Cheers!
Id guess another year, if anything got it this year it would be the iPhone 8 or Edition or X whatever they are gonna call the $1000 iPhone
 
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I think they would atleast refresh the 12.9 inch model with A10X and and TrueTone Display

But would that be enough to get current 12.9" users to upgrade, the 10.5" iPad Pro with less bezel's sounds good tho and maybe one I would upgrade too, I hope these rumours and Ming-Chi-Kuo are correct about the iPad's being announced at WWDC.
 
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But would that be enough to get current 12.9" users to upgrade, the 10.5" iPad Pro with less bezel's sounds good tho and maybe one I would upgrade too, I hope these rumours and Ming-Chi-Kuo are correct about the iPad's being announced at WWDC.
I'm pretty much expecting it at this point the rumor has been going on for months and now weeks away from WWDC you have these reputable sources confirming the rumors. It would be a shock to only see software at this years WWDC
 
Hardware is kind of "meh" at this point. The bigger announcement (if they make large changes) are iOS updates for the iPad. Obviously the current Pro models will be able to run whatever major updates they might make to iOS. Hardware clearly isn't enough to keep people buying to new iPads every couple years so maybe software will be in combination.
 
Hardware is kind of "meh" at this point. The bigger announcement (if they make large changes) are iOS updates for the iPad. Obviously the current Pro models will be able to run whatever major updates they might make to iOS. Hardware clearly isn't enough to keep people buying to new iPads every couple years so maybe software will be in combination.
I agree iOS 11 will need to definetly make a big splash and I have a inclination it will be
 
I'm definitely not fretting about the new iPad although it would be lovely to come out, in which case we will pay less than you probably did while getting technology that is almost 2 years newer. Honestly though unless you paid less than $500 how did you rationalize paying $800 plus for an iPad that is 1.5 years old. I don't see the "value in that" unless you really needed one

These last few words did me in; the Air 1 was holding me back I realised. Had I been using an Air 2 or even Pro 9.7 I would have acted differently. Obviously getting newer tech will be nice but I decided to just get this iPad Pro first, which indeed is serving me much better than the iPad Air, especially in this trip (which is what I rightly predicted). I prefer going for mid-cycle instead for iPads as I need stability for these guys. I am ok with bleeding edge tech in some of my other goods though ;)

I just think that life's more than chasing/arguing about the latest technology, if you get my drift
 
I agree iOS 11 will need to definetly make a big splash and I have a inclination it will be

I doubt iOS 11 will have any new iPad features. From a big perspective, iPad is at an evolutionary plateau. It's not where the main battle is at and it doesn't make sense to throw iOS resources at iPad.

Strategically, Apple's focus is on gaining smartphone market share worldwide. Apple is having trouble breaking into China because of how WeChat is used in everyday lives.

From a tech usage perspective, China is about a half decade ahead of the rest of the world in using phones to pay for lunch, dinner, taxis, utility bills, and transferring money between each other. In order for iOS to remain relevant, Apple needs tighter integration into the daily lives of the users from movie tickets to Groupon to health. It's a matter of time before another WeChat-like platform shows up outside China.
 
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