Apple is losing me: that's why.

[jrswizzle]

Just know that it's an absolute nightmare trying to get an Android device to work with anything other than the Google ecosystem. I tried to have a Moto X, MacBook, and iPad; it was a complete disaster.

This isn't true at all.....

Had no problem integrating various Android devices into my all Apple ecosystem. Sure I missed iMessage and some other Apple-specific sharing features (which is ultimately why I went back), but overall I had little trouble syncing calendars, reminders, music, contacts etc.

*shhhh don't let SpoonCody see this post....he's under the impression I'm a huge Apple fanboy and I want to keep it that way*

 

[MikeyMike01]

yes....and the process works great! All my devices work and sync together!

Fine, but I've no interest in using any Google services at all, for a variety of reasons. On my Moto X or Nexus 7 I couldn't use a CalDAV or CardDAV account, or get push email with something other than Gmail. Those sorts of troubles were my point.

*shhhh don't let SpoonCody see this post....he's under the impression I'm a huge Apple fanboy and I want to keep it that way*

 

[Max(IT)]

Seeing how things went, and how I was just put out of the discussion, this thread lost all of the meaning (at least for me) ...

As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to wait until September with the actual configuration (iPhone 5S and Lumia 1520) and then I'll take a decision, based on iPhone 6 specs, retail price and iOS 8 features.

 

[GoCubsGo]

Seeing how things went, and how I was just put out of the discussion, this thread lost all of the meaning (at least for me) ...

As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to wait until September with the actual configuration (iPhone 5S and Lumia 1520) and then I'll take a decision, based on iPhone 6 specs, retail price and iOS 8 features.

I find you to be quite melodramatic about your cellphone. All I've been able to ascertain from your posts is that you wanted a phone with a larger screen. I'm unsure what people think innovation is or why Apple isn't innovating, but I can tell you a bigger screen isn't innovation. You need to use the phone that fits your needs and know that Apple losing you is probably not Apple's concern. Frankly, none of us are a blip on Apple's radar and losing us as a customer means nothing because for every one of us, there are 5 more behind you that will be wowed into buying the next iPhone. No love loss there.

I don't think anyone pushed you out of the discussion at all. You choose to jump back into an evolving discussion, one that has been had repeatedly on this site, or you back away. You made your point and a handful of people read it and hear you. Not sure what else you were hoping to gain.

Expect retail price to stay roughly the same with the next iPhone. Check out the iOS 8 threads now with people who are beta testing and see what you may be in for. Remember, bugs can and will be worked out (mostly) before the final release. Finally, feature wise, well you will have to wait because relying on rumors isn't totally advisable even if some of them seem quite solid (bigger screen…innovative!!!).

I have an iPhone and a Windows phone. Frankly, I cannot deal with the Windows phone and not for lack of trying.

 

[Max(IT)]

I find you to be quite melodramatic about your cellphone. All I've been able to ascertain from your posts is that you wanted a phone with a larger screen. I'm unsure what people think innovation is or why Apple isn't innovating, but I can tell you a bigger screen isn't innovation. You need to use the phone that fits your needs and know that Apple losing you is probably not Apple's concern. Frankly, none of us are a blip on Apple's radar and losing us as a customer means nothing because for every one of us, there are 5 more behind you that will be wowed into buying the next iPhone. No love loss there.

I don't think anyone pushed you out of the discussion at all. You choose to jump back into an evolving discussion, one that has been had repeatedly on this site, or you back away. You made your point and a handful of people read it and hear you. Not sure what else you were hoping to gain.

Expect retail price to stay roughly the same with the next iPhone. Check out the iOS 8 threads now with people who are beta testing and see what you may be in for. Remember, bugs can and will be worked out (mostly) before the final release. Finally, feature wise, well you will have to wait because relying on rumors isn't totally advisable even if some of them seem quite solid (bigger screen…innovative!!!).

I have an iPhone and a Windows phone. Frankly, I cannot deal with the Windows phone and not for lack of trying.

If you really think that the lack of innovation is only related to the small screen, you should read again my first post on this thread ....

In this moment, and for the first time in my long smartphone experience, the iPhone isn't the best phone I own, being the Lumia 1520 far better in every single aspect (including the os, I'm using WP 8.1).
I'm not happy about that.

Apple doesn't care to lose me ? I don't think so. It's not me to be seen as Max, a single user. It's me to be considered like a typical long time apple user considering for the first time the possibility to buy something else. It could be only me, or maybe not. Maybe it is Apple and a wrong choice they made.

I'm looking forward to try iOS 8, because it could change something. It could be more important that the bigger display of the iPhone 6.

 

[Savor]

They lost me with iTunes.

Adding or deleting songs or photos from an album is not possible with Apple's insistence we keep using iTunes.

Simple and elementary type of feature like moving files to different folders still can't be done without iTunes. And iTunes since 11 has gotten worse and less user-friendly. Many Windows PC users still get 100% CPU. Apple doesn't want to fix it. They want you to buy a Mac instead. I have an iPhone 3G I simply use for songs. It takes forever for iTunes open up and sync. Sometimes it won't sync at all and can't read the contents. It would be nice if Apple can let us add or delete stuff without iTunes, but they insist to keep us locked into their ecosystem.

iTunes is the most revolutionary thing that came from Apple. Not iPod, iPhone, or iPad. It got over 300M people invested (handcuffed) into the ecosystem. Still 300M still doesn't compare to the Gmail users out there.

 

[FFR]

They lost me with iTunes.



Adding or deleting songs or photos from an album is not possible with Apple's insistence we keep using iTunes.



Simple and elementary type of feature like moving files to different folders still can't be done without iTunes. And iTunes since 11 has gotten worse and less user-friendly. Many Windows PC users still get 100% CPU. Apple doesn't want to fix it. They want you to buy a Mac instead. I have an iPhone 3G I simply use for songs. It takes forever for iTunes open up and sync. Sometimes it won't sync at all and can't read the contents. It would be nice if Apple can let us add or delete stuff without iTunes, but they insist to keep us locked into their ecosystem.



iTunes is the most revolutionary thing that came from Apple. Not iPod, iPhone, or iPad. It got over 300M people invested (handcuffed) into the ecosystem. Still 300M still doesn't compare to the Gmail users out there.

A 3G seriously? A second generation iPhone, from 2008??? 6 year old phone??? Aren't you on iOS 3 or iOS 4????

My iPhone 5s can do all of that.

Seriously it's 2014, and iOS 5 was released in 2011, it contained all the updates you are clamoring for.

FYI: iTunes has over 800 million users now, not 300 million.
Gmail: 325 million monthly active users
Google drive:120 million monthly active users
Google +: 300 million active users.

 

[Technarchy]

They lost me with iTunes.

Adding or deleting songs or photos from an album is not possible with Apple's insistence we keep using iTunes.

Simple and elementary type of feature like moving files to different folders still can't be done without iTunes. And iTunes since 11 has gotten worse and less user-friendly. Many Windows PC users still get 100% CPU. Apple doesn't want to fix it. They want you to buy a Mac instead. I have an iPhone 3G I simply use for songs. It takes forever for iTunes open up and sync. Sometimes it won't sync at all and can't read the contents. It would be nice if Apple can let us add or delete stuff without iTunes, but they insist to keep us locked into their ecosystem.

iTunes is the most revolutionary thing that came from Apple. Not iPod, iPhone, or iPad. It got over 300M people invested (handcuffed) into the ecosystem. Still 300M still doesn't compare to the Gmail users out there.

Do you know what year it is and how iOS works?

 

[darrinaw]

I've has every iPhone since 2007 and I must say, my 2 month old Moto X is the most functional phone I've ever owned. I love apple and I love android. That is all. Try something different. On android? Try iOS. On iOS? Try an android phone (please make it close to stock as possible). The world is about learning and trying something different. Hell, I'd love a linux phone too! Be a nerd, be a techy! Everything is all good!

 

[macbookpro13]

I find you to be quite melodramatic about your cellphone. All I've been able to ascertain from your posts is that you wanted a phone with a larger screen. I'm unsure what people think innovation is or why Apple isn't innovating, but I can tell you a bigger screen isn't innovation. You need to use the phone that fits your needs and know that Apple losing you is probably not Apple's concern. Frankly, none of us are a blip on Apple's radar and losing us as a customer means nothing because for every one of us, there are 5 more behind you that will be wowed into buying the next iPhone. No love loss there.

I don't think anyone pushed you out of the discussion at all. You choose to jump back into an evolving discussion, one that has been had repeatedly on this site, or you back away. You made your point and a handful of people read it and hear you. Not sure what else you were hoping to gain.

Expect retail price to stay roughly the same with the next iPhone. Check out the iOS 8 threads now with people who are beta testing and see what you may be in for. Remember, bugs can and will be worked out (mostly) before the final release. Finally, feature wise, well you will have to wait because relying on rumors isn't totally advisable even if some of them seem quite solid (bigger screen…innovative!!!).

I have an iPhone and a Windows phone. Frankly, I cannot deal with the Windows phone and not for lack of trying.

I also don't know why everyone is so dramatic when it comes to this stuff. It's like religion for some people. The iphone vs android battle has become the new mac vs pc. Most have realized by now that computers are all equally powerful and do pretty much the same things so they've stopped the pissing contest. I wonder why the same realization hasn't set in for smartphones. Android users keep bragging about flexibility and openness but at the end of the day all smartphone users I see are just text messaging or playing games, i.e. they're not curing cancer or doing some other revolutionary work. It just comes down to preference over superficial things (design, screen size, OS X synergy, etc). They all do the same core functions of a smartphone equally well (phone, messaging, internet, gps) and you're not going to magically become less "productive" or incapacitated switching from an iphone to an android or vice versa.

 

[Menneisyys2]

A 3G seriously? A second generation iPhone, from 2008??? 6 year old phone??? Aren't you on iOS 3 or iOS 4????

My iPhone 5s can do all of that.

What's wrong with using an old device for media (music) playback? When I'm running in the gym of our company and no other people are around, I put some audiobooks into the loudspeakers at the center of the gym so that I don't need to use headphones while running. As the iPhone is cabled, I can't check incoming SMS'es while it's playing. Of course in situations like this using a second playback device is preferred to keep my newer phones around for free access.

 

[sracer]

What's wrong with using an old device for media (music) playback? When I'm running in the gym of our company and no other people are around, I put some audiobooks into the loudspeakers at the center of the gym so that I don't need to use headphones while running. As the iPhone is cabled, I can't check incoming SMS'es while it's playing. Of course in situations like this using a second playback device is preferred to keep my newer phones around for free access.

That's an excellent example. I have a 2nd iPhone 4 that I specifically use as a dedicated media device. I also use it for playing around with various camera filters.

By having a secondary device, I can keep my primary iPhone 4's battery for communications. (music / video playback in a pinch). I don't always have that 2nd iP4 with me, but it is handy.

 

[FFR]

What's wrong with using an old device for media (music) playback? When I'm running in the gym of our company and no other people are around, I put some audiobooks into the loudspeakers at the center of the gym so that I don't need to use headphones while running. As the iPhone is cabled, I can't check incoming SMS'es while it's playing. Of course in situations like this using a second playback device is preferred to keep my newer phones around for free access.

There is using an old device, then there is savor who is using an iPhone 3G AND COMPLAINING ABOUT ITS LIMITATIONS, generalizing it as an iTunes issue, not as an obsolete phone problem.

 

[AT101ET]

Some nice points. Paste that into an email and send it to apple support

 

[gotluck]

There is using an old device, then there is savor who is using an iPhone 3G AND COMPLAINING ABOUT ITS LIMITATIONS, generalizing it as an iTunes issue, not as an obsolete phone problem.

You still can't add or remove media without either buying from iTunes or using iTunes. You have to stream if you want to fully avoid iTunes.

 

[Stuntman06]

I've has every iPhone since 2007 and I must say, my 2 month old Moto X is the most functional phone I've ever owned. I love apple and I love android. That is all. Try something different. On android? Try iOS. On iOS? Try an android phone (please make it close to stock as possible). The world is about learning and trying something different. Hell, I'd love a linux phone too! Be a nerd, be a techy! Everything is all good!

As an Android user for over 3 years, I have in recent months have had the opportunity to really try out iOS. My work phone was upgraded to an iPhone 5S and I decided to start using my wife's iPad Mini which has been collecting dust since last year. (My wife just prefers to use her iPhone over the iPad Mini.)

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Regarding old phones, I use my old Nokia N97 as a music device. It has an FM transmitter, so I can play my music over my portable stereo.

 

[sparky08]

For me IOS 8 has addressed many of the issues I have had with ios in the past ( widgets, quick reply/active notifications, better keyboard/ 3rd party keyboards)

I just heard that widgets are only available on the Notification Screen???? To me, that defeats the purpose of having widgets.

What a half-baked idea. I wonder what kept Apple from a usable implementation of widgets.

 

[tjl3]

I just heard that widgets are only available on the Notification Screen???? To me, that defeats the purpose of having widgets.

What a half-baked idea. I wonder what kept Apple from a usable implementation of widgets.

I don't mind it as much, thinking about the big picture. The thing I am happy about most is that developers won't be able to give widgets some random skin that won't flow w/ the theme. And it goes both ways b/c you can still access widgets on any home screen and while in any app. As opposed to navigating to the exact home page. However, I can see it get far too overwhelming as well if you have just a scrolling wall of widgets.

 

[sracer]

I just heard that widgets are only available on the Notification Screen???? To me, that defeats the purpose of having widgets.

What a half-baked idea. I wonder what kept Apple from a usable implementation of widgets.

Patents most likely.

 

[thejadedmonkey]

I've lost over a days worth of work trying to debug code due to this issue. This is why I'm done with Apple.

Symptoms

For some email providers, new email messages in Mail may only appear to arrive when Mail is first opened. No new email arrives until Mail is quit and reopened.

Resolution

Quitting and reopening Mail forces it to re-establish a connection to the email server.

I need a work computer, not a busted up toy.

 

[TechGod]

I've lost over a days worth of work trying to debug code due to this issue. This is why I'm done with Apple.



I need a work computer, not a busted up toy.

Ironic since my Windows computer was a POS. That's why I came to a Mac in the first place.

 

[Robster3]

Ironic since my Windows computer was a POS. That's why I came to a Mac in the first place.

Do people still buy windows computers

 

[TechGod]

Do people still buy windows computers

I heard the Windows buying people were just a myth, like the dragons and the tooth fairy

 

[gotluck]

Lol only every major business

Including apples production lines thanks to that iMac running windows at the Texas plant with Tim cook pic.

 

[Robster3]

Lol only every major business

Including apples production lines thanks to that iMac running windows at the Texas plant with Tim cook pic.

Nothing wrong with windows, just the crap pc's they put it on