iOS 7? Is that even worth discussing 4 years out from its release?It's an interesting debate that will never have a definitive answer. There's no reason why it can't be discussed ad nauseum by people who have opposing views. There is new evidence that supports Apple's interest in selling new phones by slowing down old ones.
And Apple does not optimize for older devices: iPhone 4 with iOS 7. Discuss.
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Ridiculous.
And it makes this whole thing even worse. Your battery gets worn out, they slow down your phone and then they won't even let you pay to replace the battery? All signs are pointing towards a really shady practice.
Some data to make the thread rolling: my iPhone 6 has way over 1000 cycles and battery at around 90% of its original capacity. I tested it yesterday and the clock speed is 1127 MHz. According to Geekbench the A8 in iPhone 6 should be at 1400 MHz.
So I did a Geekbench test. The result is awful - multi-core score is 2281. In March this year it was 2501. It’s almost 10% drop. My phone now has the same result as iPod Touch which is clocked at 1,1 GHz.
In conclusion- there is something about that. I’m not judging if Apple did that on purpose. But I’d like some explanation.
So I did a Geekbench test. The result is awful - multi-core score is 2281. In March this year it was 2501. It’s almost 10% drop. My phone now has the same result as iPod Touch which is clocked at 1,1 GHz.
In conclusion- there is something about that. I’m not judging if Apple did that on purpose. But I’d like some explanation.
Both my old iPhone 6 and my iPhone 6S have also been slowed down.
I remember having issues with them shutting down around 30% sometimes.
My 6S still had warranty when the IOS update to fix the problem was released but I did not take it to the Genius Bar because the problem was supposedly fixed.
Now I find out this problem was only covered up by reducing my iPhones speed? I specifically bought the 6S for the faster processor.
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Only my 6S is affected, the 6 is reporting normal speeds. My mistake.
I remember having issues with them shutting down around 30% sometimes.
My 6S still had warranty when the IOS update to fix the problem was released but I did not take it to the Genius Bar because the problem was supposedly fixed.
Now I find out this problem was only covered up by reducing my iPhones speed? I specifically bought the 6S for the faster processor.
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Only my 6S is affected, the 6 is reporting normal speeds. My mistake.
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Keep the receipts coming! I wonder how long it will take for Apple to respond to this.
I just read that even iPhones 7s are affected.
I just bought an iPhone X, how long before this also becomes slowed down?
My confidence in these phones is shattered.
I just bought an iPhone X, how long before this also becomes slowed down?
My confidence in these phones is shattered.
Likely in about a year or two, depending on your battery usage. Hopefully by then, Apple will make it a thing you can toggle off in the iPhone settings.
Ha ha ha.... hilarious!!!! Can you show me hard facts? Even the article is wishy-washy.
What do you mean? Just try using Geekbenach on an older device and you can see it is much slower.
I tried Geekbenach on my iPhone 6S and its score is much lower than it should be. It was also effected with the 30% shutdown bug before the iOS 10.2.1 update.
For those using CPU DasherX. I would open and close the app a few times to check your cpu speed. It reports the speed at the time not the max speed. Either that or my iPhone X is wonky as when i last looked it was showing it as 2064mhz and i'm not in LPM.
After closing and opening the app again
With LPM
After closing and opening the app again
With LPM
Here is my Geekbench at 100%(bottom) and 43% top. iPhone 7. This is proof that Apple limits cpu based on battery level.
[doublepost=1512991555][/doublepost]This is not only battery wear level but also when battery % drops below a certain level!
[doublepost=1512991890][/doublepost]I also believe I discovered this last week but didn’t realise it was related to battery.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/11-2-throttling-cpu.2092487/
[doublepost=1512991555][/doublepost]This is not only battery wear level but also when battery % drops below a certain level!
[doublepost=1512991890][/doublepost]I also believe I discovered this last week but didn’t realise it was related to battery.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/11-2-throttling-cpu.2092487/
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Would be interesting to see if this only happens on older iPhone 7s with a worn battery or also on brand new models.
So a device that is only half a year old already gets slowed down when the battery is almost half full?
This is very concerning to me as a just bought an iPhone X.
It happens, there is the proof above. I think when battery drops below 50% then the cpu is throttled. It shouldn’t do this and Apple needs to sort it! Sneaky sods!
[doublepost=1512993139][/doublepost]Would be good if other people could post Geekbench scores at different battery levels.
[doublepost=1512993139][/doublepost]Would be good if other people could post Geekbench scores at different battery levels.
By "battery level," do you mean charge level, or the battery's actual capacity (i.e., wear)?
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I just asked Chillip whether he's referring to charge state or charge capacity. I need to reread this thread, but I thought we were talking about battery capacity rather than battery charge state (level).
I'm not joking and like most people, battery life between charges is critical. It would be nice if Apple were a bit more transparent about what they are doing. But most batteries don't reduce effectiveness to the point where Apple may reduce processor speed before 3 or so years.
A laptop I have for work is on its 2nd battery and needs a third. I'm barely able to get an hour and a half to two hours out of it. The battery indicator is faulty in that it says I'll have more time available then the system just craps out. Real bad for a meeting. I'd rather HP reduce the processor speeds and do other things to help get more time out of the battery. Instead, I manually reduce brightness to the lowest setting where I can still see what I'm typing.
Apple is doing the right thing. Any other manufacturer would just let the battery fail early and leave you hanging.
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FALSE. They have NOT been slowing down older phones with updated iOS installs. It has been proven time and again. Here's a link to an article with data behind the numbers:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/17...lder-iphones-down-on-purpose-with-ios-updates
You can’t be for real.
If they slow down the processor, they should let us know it’s time for a new battery.
My iPhone 6S has been slow for some time and according to Geekbench, it now has about the same performance as my iPhone 6. I bought the 6S for its faster processor.
Also, where did you get the 3 years figure. There are people on here with a 6month old iPhone 7 reporting big this problem.
The 6S is about 2 years on the market and the majority of people complaining own a 6S.
What are you even talking about???