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dk001

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If your car was pointing the opposite direction to which Maps was expecting you to start moving it may have instantly rerouted without you noticing because you were heading east to towards Silverado and it may have calculated it was quicker to go that way, rather than attempting a U turn or to go round some blocks.

I have NEVER known it to change a route on a selected route unless I’ve a) ignored the route (either intentionally or accidentally) and gone a different way myself or b) it’s calculated a quicker route which it will do automatically, but it gives you a few seconds to hit ‘ignore’.

Re your adhoc points issue I’m not sure exactly what you’re saying. If you drop a pin anywhere on a map Maps always give you a directions button even if it’s not near a road.

Personally I always prefer this method as while Apple Maps routing is generally excellent I still don’t trust the pins and postcodes are too broad in rural locations in the UK where I live. I don’t trust Google’s pins either after a bitter experience 10 years ago trying to find an IKEA!

Couple of clarifications….

The reroute was via 12ProMax, not car.

In Google Maps I can have My Location as a start point and select any point on the may as Destination. Or the reverse.
In Apple Maps if I start with My Location, I can only select known points on the map as My Destination. No ad hoc points. However I can select an ad hoc point, drop a pin and then select directions to it.

Hope this clarifies what I was saying. Thx!
 

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Couple of clarifications….

The reroute was via 12ProMax, not car.

In Google Maps I can have My Location as a start point and select any point on the may as Destination. Or the reverse.
In Apple Maps if I start with My Location, I can only select known points on the map as My Destination. No ad hoc points. However I can select an ad hoc point, drop a pin and then select directions to it.

Hope this clarifies what I was saying. Thx!

Yes, appreciate it was your iPhone that rerouted. What I’m saying was that right at the start of your journey in Napa, if your car was pointing eastwards before you started moving, Apple (and Google) Maps will assume you can just move westwards from your starting point. When you start moving eastwards (because that’s the direction your car is initially pointing) Apple Maps will reroute. This may only take a few seconds depending on your signal so it’s very easy to miss.

Re your ‘ad-hoc’ points. In Apple maps it automatically defaults the starting location to ‘My location’. So I’m not sure why you would want to add an extra step of telling Apple Maps to start at ‘My location’ in the first place, and then select the ad-hoc point to go to. Surely just selecting the ad-hoc point (dropping a pin on the map) in the first place and then pressing ‘Directions’ is quicker and easier? If you want to reverse the route you simply click on ‘My Location’ (which is blue) and in the next menu use the reverse button. Alternatively, you can remove ‘My location’ and add a different starting (or ending) point to route to your ad-hoc point. It seems to me to be basically the exact same way Google Maps handles it?
 
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gwhizkids

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Justin is correct. The Redditors jumped the gun. What they were seeing was just the extra patches of green you could always see while navigating, much like we had here in the US before we got the new maps.

Yes. The full scale upgrade was preceded by several months of enhanced vegetation here. But that’s a good sign. I remember how excited we all were when this reached our respective areas.
 

dk001

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Yes, appreciate it was your iPhone that rerouted. What I’m saying was that right at the start of your journey in Napa, if your car was pointing eastwards before you started moving, Apple (and Google) Maps will assume you can just move westwards from your starting point. When you start moving eastwards (because that’s the direction your car is initially pointing) Apple Maps will reroute. This may only take a few seconds depending on your signal so it’s very easy to miss.

1.Re your ‘ad-hoc’ points. In Apple maps it automatically defaults the starting location to ‘My location’. So I’m not sure why you would want to add an extra step of telling Apple Maps to start at ‘My location’ in the first place, and then select the ad-hoc point to go to. Surely just selecting the ad-hoc point (dropping a pin on the map) in the first place and then pressing ‘Directions’ is quicker and easier? If you want to reverse the route you simply click on ‘My Location’ (which is blue) and in the next menu use the reverse button. Alternatively, you can remove ‘My location’ and add a different starting (or ending) point to route to your ad-hoc point. It seems to me to be basically the exact same way Google Maps handles it?
1. Little things. More for ease of use. Too bad Siri can't give me an answer for things like that and open on the map.
If I start with the end point, Google and Apple work the same. If I start with a beginning point, they do not.

Side note: I have a Shortcut that will automatically pull up Apple Maps and give me directions on how to get Home. Found out on 15 beta1 it didn't work while I was in San Fran. Worked just fine once I was back near Home.
 

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I actually had an opportunity to use Siri to search for a POI while driving. Was visiting my fiance's relatives in New Jersey, and she wanted to find a liquor store near our destination to pick up some wine. She took out her Android phone and started messing about on Google Maps to search for a liquor store, but she couldn't figure out how to search near our destination (despite us only being ten minutes from there).

So while on CarPlay, I activated Siri and said, "Find a liquor store along my route", and Siri brought up a list of nearby liquor stores, as well as how much time would be added to my route. Selected one, and I was on my way. Once I arrived there, Apple Maps automatically queued up the directions from there to my original destination.
 

G1Ravage

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Ho ho ho! Look what popped up on my drive today!

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Siri announced, “Speed check reported ahead.” No other symbols appeared on the map to show the precise location. Was not given an option to clear the report out.

I didn’t even see any police nearby at first. But a minute later, a state trooper passed by, so perhaps he departed his original location.

CC: Mozman
 

MozMan68

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I actually had an opportunity to use Siri to search for a POI while driving. Was visiting my fiance's relatives in New Jersey, and she wanted to find a liquor store near our destination to pick up some wine. She took out her Android phone and started messing about on Google Maps to search for a liquor store, but she couldn't figure out how to search near our destination (despite us only being ten minutes from there).

So while on CarPlay, I activated Siri and said, "Find a liquor store along my route", and Siri brought up a list of nearby liquor stores, as well as how much time would be added to my route. Selected one, and I was on my way. Once I arrived there, Apple Maps automatically queued up the directions from there to my original destination.

One thing I noticed when I used it this weekend, there is a limit along the route that it will search.

I knew there was no McDonald’s in my immediate area along my route home on an over 2 hour drive.

It did bring up McDonalds bear by and gave the correct time added. I did it again about 1/2 hour into the drive and it brought up options further along my route to select that were actually within a few minutes from the road I was traveling on.

I almost wish it would bring up more so could plan further ahead…particularly on really long drives. But other than that, it works really well for me.
 

dk001

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I actually had an opportunity to use Siri to search for a POI while driving. Was visiting my fiance's relatives in New Jersey, and she wanted to find a liquor store near our destination to pick up some wine. She took out her Android phone and started messing about on Google Maps to search for a liquor store, but she couldn't figure out how to search near our destination (despite us only being ten minutes from there).

So while on CarPlay, I activated Siri and said, "Find a liquor store along my route", and Siri brought up a list of nearby liquor stores, as well as how much time would be added to my route. Selected one, and I was on my way. Once I arrived there, Apple Maps automatically queued up the directions from there to my original destination.

Sweet! Glad to see you can do that now.

Also sounds like someone forgot their Google Assistant ;)
 
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gwhizkids

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I actually had an opportunity to use Siri to search for a POI while driving. Was visiting my fiance's relatives in New Jersey, and she wanted to find a liquor store near our destination to pick up some wine. She took out her Android phone and started messing about on Google Maps to search for a liquor store, but she couldn't figure out how to search near our destination (despite us only being ten minutes from there).

So while on CarPlay, I activated Siri and said, "Find a liquor store along my route", and Siri brought up a list of nearby liquor stores, as well as how much time would be added to my route. Selected one, and I was on my way. Once I arrived there, Apple Maps automatically queued up the directions from there to my original destination.

That is a nice feature but it’s been in Maps for years. I’ve used it many times to find a restaurant in my way home from somewhere.
 

gwhizkids

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Ho ho ho! Look what popped up on my drive today!

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Siri announced, “Speed check reported ahead.” No other symbols appeared on the map to show the precise location. Was not given an option to clear the report out.

I didn’t even see any police nearby at first. But a minute later, a state trooper passed by, so perhaps he departed his original location.

CC: Mozman

Hopefully you did not have that wine with you!
 

MozMan68

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Started “driving” around SF to see if I could find any user submitted symbols. No luck yet, but it was 4:30 am there when I was looking. Found these though.

A hazard symbol, but based on the detail, looks like it was road works initiated….not user.

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Also saw this dot on the highway that I had never seen before when following a route (thought that might bring up more symbols).

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iOS Geek

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Started “driving” around SF to see if I could find any user submitted symbols. No luck yet, but it was 4:30 am there when I was looking. Found these though.

A hazard symbol, but based on the detail, looks like it was road works initiated….not user.

c25236336500cb43f11eb9661cbac367.jpg




Also saw this dot on the highway that I had never seen before when following a route (thought that might bring up more symbols).

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Interesting to see the grey icon there. I would have expected to see the yellow one shown above.
 

MozMan68

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Interesting to see the grey icon there. I would have expected to see the yellow one shown above.
Or better yet, the "construction" icon for both, right?

EDIT: Oh...and the only thing I can think about for the hazard marker is that based on the time noted, construction ends at 6:45 a.m. local time, so maybe it is just a temporary road closure overnight. But still, construction icon seems more appropriate when there's construction.
 

MozMan68

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That is a nice feature but it’s been in Maps for years. I’ve used it many times to find a restaurant in my way home from somewhere.
To be fair, this feature has improved a lot!! I use it all the time now.

Don't get me wrong, I still wouldn't mind multi-stop planning when I have that opportunity, but this works while en route.
 

MozMan68

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I've basically never asked Siri to do anything for me while driving with CarPlay. Other than simple items like "Call Mom", or "Message Friend #325".
I always found it weird and couldn't see myself as one of "those people," but since getting my HomePod Minis, I'm using "Hey, Siri" all the time now...even with my AirPods in to advance songs, change the volume, etc.

And while I would typically tap the screen to report hazards, using "Hey, Siri, report a hazard" instead is so much easier, quicker and accurate if said as you pass the actual event. Of course, it works better when I'm alone in the car and no one else is currently "yapping!"
 

dk001

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I always found it weird and couldn't see myself as one of "those people," but since getting my HomePod Minis, I'm using "Hey, Siri" all the time now...even with my AirPods in to advance songs, change the volume, etc.

And while I would typically tap the screen to report hazards, using "Hey, Siri, report a hazard" instead is so much easier, quicker and accurate if said as you pass the actual event. Of course, it works better when I'm alone in the car and no one else is currently "yapping!"

Try that with a couple of grandkids in the car. They suddenly want to "Hey Siri!" too. ? ?
 

MozMan68

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No grandkids and no fiance...but there might be a wife in the car who likes to fill every waking second of time either interrupting music I want to hear or wants to talk at the exact moment I'd like to say, "Hey, Siri." ?
 
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I took photos of homes with gps routers for my business ; is there an option when looking at these photos to click on maps to start a destination to that location
 

G1Ravage

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Has anybody experienced anything unusual with Apple Maps today? Despite a fresh reboot of both my phone and my car's head unit, Maps was having difficulty placing my exact location within CarPlay when not on a designated navigation route. Even outside the car, my location was bouncing around far more than usual on just the phone itself. Did another reboot, and it seems to be better now. Wondering if this was a random, "HA, you live in New York City and therefore GPS services can randomly suck" moment, or if Apple Maps is working on some things behind the scenes....
 

MozMan68

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I visited a supplier today about 45 minutes away with an intermediate trip to lunch and everything worked great.

I used to have the supplier in my favorites because Maps didn't have the POI data. Searched when I got in my car and they popped right up (I removed from my favorites last year since I wasn't driving there at all). Maps also took me to their parking lot even though their address is the main road they face meaning I have to turn onto a perpendicular road and then into their main entrance. Niiiiice!
 
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