it seems that money trumps principles every time, almost everywhere. What happened to 'Think Different'? Present day Apple haven't yet worked out that many customers (like me) committed to their walled garden precisely because we didn't want to see what was on the other side.
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With Tim Cook in support of MAGA/Trump. I hope I won't need to buy or upgrade for another 6-10 years. Minimize purchasing from Apple. Sadly stuck with Ecosystem for now. Really annoys me that Apple is now part of this MAGA movement.
From Emma Vigeland and she's absolutely correct
Sartre’s quote about the far-right from 1946 applies perfectly to Elon Musk’s inauguration Nazi salute and the mass gaslighting the right is engaging in right now.
Sartre’s quote about the far-right from 1946 applies perfectly to Elon Musk’s inauguration Nazi salute and the mass gaslighting the right is engaging in right now.
Pure drama. People just need to step away from social media and its echo chambers. Touch some grass, go for a walk, go fishing.
He literally livestreamed into an AfD rally, and has said AfD is the only hope for Germany. Elon's dad has even said Elon's maternal grandparents supported Hitler. So two nazi salutes is pretty clear of where his ideology lies.
I get that major media doesn't wade through this **** because they're corporate/billionaire owned and are fine with all of this, but all of Elon's behavior and actions is that of a fascist. A really pathetic one because he is the worlds most pathetic human being, but a fascist nonetheless.
Reality isn't an echo chamber. It's good to step away when you're just reinforcing anxiety with no new information, but learning about all of this wanton destruction of society isn't being in an "echo chamber"
Plus there’s how Tim Cook is trying to be buddy buddy with Trump while Trump is not the biggest advocate of gay rights. Apple is all about doing the right thing unless large amount of money are involved, then they fold like a deck of cards.
I cancelled my X account ages ago and don’t miss it a bit. I’m not going to be part of Elon’s eccentric billionaire playground (plus X just started to suck after the acquisition).
I don't get it when people interpret Musk's gesture as the nazi salute.
- Hitler raised his hand forward and up high
- Musk touched his heart before raising it sideway and high
These are completely different gestures. Touching his heart first then signal was supposed to mean "love you all". And during that gesture, he verbally said "my heart goes out to you". News outlets who show anger about this manipulated the situation by only showing the still photo of him raising his arm high. If they had shown the whole video of him touching his heart then raising his arm, saying "my heart goes out to you", it wouldn't be such a terrible shameful act of "journalism". They used this tactic in order to call him nazi, facist, dictator, etc...
If you guys only saw the photo and not the video, you can see for yourself here
- Hitler raised his hand forward and up high
- Musk touched his heart before raising it sideway and high
These are completely different gestures. Touching his heart first then signal was supposed to mean "love you all". And during that gesture, he verbally said "my heart goes out to you". News outlets who show anger about this manipulated the situation by only showing the still photo of him raising his arm high. If they had shown the whole video of him touching his heart then raising his arm, saying "my heart goes out to you", it wouldn't be such a terrible shameful act of "journalism". They used this tactic in order to call him nazi, facist, dictator, etc...
If you guys only saw the photo and not the video, you can see for yourself here
The full video shows he did it to the crowd and to the flag, which makes it even worse. All the nazis on Twitter call it a nazi salute. It's a nazi salute.
Whether he was trolling or not is besides the point.
Let's just please stop trying to run cover for this
There is so much contextual information around Elon, his actions, his beliefs, his history, etc ... that make it pretty clear what he was doing and is up to
It's not that they don't see it, it's that they don't want others to see it.
I can tell you after the investor calls few days ago, apparently some of stock holders who were listening and were going to ask questions managed to get one on one discussion with Cook and the board to voice their displeasure about restarting advertising on Twitter. They know that this move will negatively affect Apple’s image and stock in the future, and will definitely bring attention to regulators in California. Most of them urged Cook and Apple to not go forward with advertising on Twitter, even if pointed a gun by Musk or Trump.
Many are calling for Apple to actually launch their own social network in fact to start competing with Bluesky or Threads or X, they see Apple launching their own social network this time would be a success, compared to their past attempt with Ping.
What are you sorry for? You are all good bud. I was noticing your reaction to comments and how it seemed to be triggering and thought that for your own mental health it might be good to let other people respond to things.
However, if you are wanting to impact people and have a reasonable discussion that might be better suited to not be as reactionary. If your goal is to just say "you suck" to people, then I guess carry on.
Also, if someone told you that your exact thinking on this topic is overly judgmental, biased, blah blah blah, would you feel ashamed, called out, etc... just because some random person on the internet got mad at you?
Your approach I don't think is effective at much other than contributing to the continuation of people having emotional only reactions. Maybe there is not much more we can hope for on a forum like this? But more than anything I just wanted to make sure you kept your mental health in mind.
BTW, our grands actually DID something. My grandfather was shot down behind enemy lines, TWICE, and kept serving. He didn't just sit at home and talk about it. I am acutely aware about the need to take action but talking on internet forums (especially comprised of emotional outbursts) is not correlative to actually anything that real people really did in the real world. Talking on the internet adds to the noise and not the solution.
Everything in that post is ludicrous hysterical nonsense. This is why the national and even global zeitgeist is shifting away from the woke left. You can’t talk to them about anything because they are so deeply buried in demented propaganda and hysteria.
So what? Are you your grandfather or grandmother or are you a separate individual? Are we really going to go all out with ancestral guilt? Should we hang the children of murderers?
Social media isn't reality. It's cherry picked, adjusted for engagement, and algorithmically sorted to keep you and I mad and coming back for more.
There are plenty of ways to get information without ever venturing into the world of social media.
My talk of having an open mind sounds threatening to you, I am sorry, I wasn't meaning to do that. Maybe having a more happy life didn't resonate as well, so I can state this in a different way that might resonate more. How about us humans in the world work to get rid of bigotry! Let' do that! But....
If we want to truly change the world, it starts with understanding people. Anyone who has had to serve in government or been an effective leader knows that change isn't forced unless you are a dictator. Change is a process. By taking a situation that could have hundreds of possibilities and boiling them down a couple, as was done in the comment, to serve a point is not helping the discussion. It is an emotional outburst that creates emotion and drama rather than creating a discussion point or providing clear information. While it makes people FEEL a lot better, this does not actually help change move forward it just adds to the noise.
I only follow people on social media that I personally know, and only people I know follow me. I don't need or want to use for news and events....let's keep the social in social media.
If Elon wasn't trying to make the salute, his best course of action would have been to apologize and offer his explanation. But making fun of people for thinking that was a ridiculous move, period.
However, we all know he is on the spectrum, and anyone who has watched him talk for more than a few minutes of a presentation know his social skills in front of people are not great. So that can manifest in many ways.
I am not trying to excuse someone who performed an offensive gesture. I am not trying to not accept facts. But so far everything I have seen is just people giving their opinions or citing "news" sources that take a small piece of information and then tell us what they think it means. So, I would love to accept verified information, but I haven't seen anything, just people's opinions.
BTW, Musk is crazy! I am not defending him, I am being aware that humans easily gang up on other humans with little real facts and a whole lot of opinion. True mob mentality and then to make themselves feel better try to tie to to some "good cause"
Also, BlueSky might be good now, but once they need to make money that are screwed, just like all other social media platforms. We can enjoy it while it lasts though!