We have our own news gathering services, they certainly don’t watch Fox News and regurgitate that nonsense, unlike some here. It’s hilarious reading what people spout as truth regarding countries they’ve probably not even visited far less know anything about. It’s in the same breath as telling everyone else that they’re wrong because the information they themselves read is somehow the truth. It’s hypocrisy at the highest level. It’s prevalent across this entire thread.
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Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK Amid Government Backdoor Demands
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Yes why? Because it still has end to end encryption in it. They never disabled it. I've never heard of anyone hacking it either. Only others 'leaking' messages from the app to undermine people.
Well not really. The promise was that government would replace all the laws and regs they copied over, they've managed to do that to just 300 so far, but of course they spent a lot of their time undermining the vote and trying to keep us as aligned as possible with the EU. Way things are going won't be surprised if we are dragged back in without a vote.
I've been watching lots of videos on this move by Apple, lots don't seem to understand it. The option isn't turned on be default you have to opt into it, and for them to gain access to the current information as standard they have to get a court order to do so, legally anyway. So I'm not sure what the reason is here? But I did hear it's possible this move by Apple and the British government may breach UK GDPR rules. That'll be interesting.
Oh, sweet summer child. Your faith in government is... fascinating.
Thank you for addressing the question. I would agree that living with low or zero expectations of people appointed to positions upon which higher expectations are based is one way to proceed personally.
I hope you don’t mean to say, that words don’t matter?
I mean…I hope you don’t think words can not lead to physical violence.
Wait, are you saying there are good ones because those are the ones you agree with on their political positions or they’re not corrupt. They’re a lot of politicians that I agree with on political positions but they’re also corrupt. Just because they support something I agree with doesn’t mean i’m going to overlook corruption
Sure words matter but there’s also freedom. People get into arguments and that leads to violence. Should we outlaw words so people don’t argue in order to prevent violence? That would be like if you called me a bad word so I stabbed you then I can say well your fault you shouldn’t call me the bad word. No we outlaw violence. You need to be able to control your emotions whether that’s a mental breakdown because someone called you a name or a temper you have where you want to attack someone. It’s not my responsibility for your emotional state whether that’s stable or unstable. I’m not saying you should go around and antagonize people, but I should be able to post whatever I want without fear from causing you to be violent. I’m just using you for example it could be anyone.
But you did say this
So what is it? Do you condone anything anti free speech or do you realise that you have to operate (read: say) what is dictated to you with your laws?
The fact of the matter is that even with the free speech so many Americans like to shout about, you do actually have restrictions that your government dictates.
Now, imagine if they investigate your data first and then suspect you of doing something nefarious.
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This is just another example why a non-structural things have a much greater impact than a structural things. Words do represent a culture of the society. When you outlaw violence you don't address the root cause of the problem which is culture.
Culture is not about just being polite as you can be very polite and still do very bad things like engage in psycho-Trotskism by inserting a negative second order consequence in something seemingly very positive: "Please have another piece of cake(I want you to get fat and die)."
Well you’re right if speech was restricted to what your master or government allowed, people would likely be more civilized and safer. The problem is finding a master to give that power to and trusting they won’t abuse you. Generally power corrupts so the people that are masters over you often become rotten. Then you have masters that are not looking out for your welfare but other things. I wouldn’t trust anyone and my government to include the politicians. I agree with to have that much control over me. I prefer to have freedom and accept the negative consequences of that. I agree that’s probably not for everyone though. Maybe in a perfect system people could choose to go to the country with the system of government they like. A safer more restrictive government might appeal to some people while more open and slightly more reckless government might appeal to others. We can just pick the way we like to be governed.
I was simply making an observation; if you feel by making an observation I am guilty of the deed then so be it. I see that sort of deflection a lot online. I see Americans attacking each other in public forums and social media groups in a very unpleasant way. They go for the jugular. I've absolutely not done that and don't do it as a matter of course. I would much rather argue the point than attack the person. I'm not attacking you in any way, I'm merely disagreeing with you.
Yes, I'm sure that happens too. Those who bask in their naïvety are the ones I feel sorry for, thinking they could ever be secure online. I keep repeating it, but I have never thought anything I do or say online is private only to me. I have always believed someone somewhere could see what I'm doing. Surely that's a sensible viewpoint? If you don't accept what I say I suggest you severely underestimate intelligence and security organisations like GCHQ in the UK and Mossad in Israel.
I’m stunned how much this has blown up in the UK and here and social media. People spreading a whole lot of lies and misinformation including headlines such as “Apple has removed (all) encryption”. It’s scary that people of influence and power can post headlines on social media around a subject they know very little about. ADP wasn’t even a thing until recently and I imagine due to how ADP works most people didn’t even use it.
We should stick a survey on here and find out sample size numbers of users who actually bothered to switch ADP on. It must be a very very small percentage.
We should stick a survey on here and find out sample size numbers of users who actually bothered to switch ADP on. It must be a very very small percentage.
Always could. As it was before ADP existed. Google isn’t a better alternative.
AFAIK Google encrypts data on their own servers but with their own keys. They can decrypt it with the keys stored on private servers. This involves putting trust in Google!
You don’t think applying a blanket stereotype to over 340 million individuals who happen to be from the same country is wrong? Hiding a stereotype as “an observation” doesn’t make it any less wrong.
And if you can’t understand how that makes you a hypocrite for complaining about people being uncivil online, well then there’s really no point in continuing to engage with you. As I’ve said you’ve proven my point.
One last point and then I’ll let you have whatever last word you want.
If you think this type of behavior is unique to or particular to Americans then you are simply blind. Brit’s do it. French people do it. Japanese, Indian, Namibian, etc. there are AHs in every country, in every city in every place on earth, because it’s a human problem. And when you pretend “people born in X country are better than people born in Y country” that makes YOU part of the problem. And there is a word for people who act like that. I won’t use it here because I’d probably get flagged by the admins, but you can figure it out if you want.
This is NOTHING to do with the EU.
This is the UK doing a solo run with powers they gave themselves around the same time Brexit happened. They've gone on an insane solo run here.
I agree with your examples in one-to-one communication (even on forums where there's hardly any authority or individual power). What I meant, and what I consider dangerous, is the way leaders of countries can spread misleading and false hate and poison by words. Ultimate consequences are often reason for war.
There is only one hope for the UK, The Reform Party
NOT Farage, the man that will save the UK is Rupert Lowe
NOT Farage, the man that will save the UK is Rupert Lowe
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Farage has made the UK great once before…remember Brexit?
I’m curious about the back door request itself… back door to exactly what? If Apple itself cannot see the content, don’t have the keys, basically it’s useless outside of the user’s physical device; what’s dangerous about it?
Sure, the UK would get their hands on a bunch of obfuscated encrypted bits… but then, does it mean that they can actually crack it now if they want it so badly?
Sure, the UK would get their hands on a bunch of obfuscated encrypted bits… but then, does it mean that they can actually crack it now if they want it so badly?