Time to watch V for Vendetta again... maybe one day it will be a documentary rather than fiction.
The request of the UK was labeled top-secret. So I guess this was because of Echelon - for certain it still exists. I suppose the other countries part of 5 eyes, and likely also the 9 eyes, will follow shortly. I will turn the feature on now. I definitely don't want people like Elon Musk or his teenage minions to ever be able to reach my data for whatever (non-)reason.Is there any rational explanation why the UK government is demanding the change?
Unlikely. He’s trying to prevent that here. Any thought otherwise is hyperbole.Not far behind is the Ununited States of Trump . The King of Executive Orders surely has one in draft mode now.
Any and all UK citizens:
FIND YOUR MP
Use this template (yeah I used ChatGPT but whatever) and send them an email.
Dear [MP Name],
My name is [your name] and I live in [town, city]. I am contacting you as my local MP.
Today, I read these articles about Apple disabling the "Advanced Data Protection" (ADP) feature in the UK in response to the government's demand of Apple to create a backdoor to access the data of UK customers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgj54eq4vejo
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...cryption-feature-from-uk-after-backdoor-order
I am writing to express my deep concern and disappointment regarding the government's decision to compel Apple to compromise user privacy by effectively forcing the removal of its ADP feature. I find this move not only alarming but a direct violation of fundamental digital security principles and personal freedoms.
Apple’s end-to-end encryption safeguards sensitive personal data, including device backups, messages, photos, and notes, ensuring they remain protected from breaches and unauthorized access. In an era of rising cyber threats, stripping away such security measures puts millions of UK citizens at unnecessary risk. This decision has also been met with significant international criticism, with concerns raised about the impact on national security and the UK's relationship with intelligence-sharing allies.
It is disgraceful that the government is leveraging the Investigatory Powers Act to demand a backdoor into user data—an act Apple has rightly refused to comply with. By forcing the company to disable ADP rather than respect privacy rights, the government is undermining the very security it claims to uphold. Cybersecurity experts have labeled this an “act of self-harm,” weakening online safety for UK-based users and setting a troubling precedent.
This policy is not only invasive but also counterproductive. Weakening encryption does not just impact potential criminal activity—it endangers journalists, activists, businesses, and everyday citizens who rely on secure communication. Furthermore, it sets a dangerous precedent, suggesting that the government can dictate global tech policy to the detriment of its own people. The fact that the Home Office has refused to confirm or deny the existence of this request only adds to concerns about transparency and accountability.
I urge you to oppose this overreach and push for policies that protect, rather than erode, digital privacy. The UK should be at the forefront of championing cybersecurity, not coercing companies into weakening their protections. I expect my government to stand up for civil liberties and security, not jeopardize them under the guise of surveillance. I look forward to your response on how you intend to address this urgent matter.
Sincerely,
[Your name]
Yeah, we'll have to see how it plays out. I find it a bit odd that there's a grace period, but I guess it makes sense. Sounds like existing users can't be "grandfathered" in, so they need to force them off somehow.I don't think it will work like that. I think Apple will just require users to turn off the feature. They've said they have no way to do it remotely, so they'll likely just sound out a notice to existing UK users explaining the details and the grace period. And if it isn't turned off by the grace period, they will what? Disable iCloud access for that user?
Unlikely. He’s trying to prevent that here. Any thought otherwise is hyperbole.
yeah change it about. shorten it. it's a template.Maybe also tighten it up and change it a bit so it's not just discarded as "spam" using a template
It might increase the chance anyone actually reads it
This letter is too long IMO
Always funny when this gets trotted out. One of Apple's most profitable markets, and you expect the shareholders to be OK with that? 😂 😂 😂Apple needs to pull out of the UK market entirely.
Not buying this argument. You do not sacrifice the privacy of all to try to catch a few bad actors. Freedom has costs and there will be a few casualties along the way.You will obviously get a lot of members saying it is because the UK government want to spy on it's people. There maybe some truth to this because lets face it, ALL governments around the world spy on their citizens.
People can chose to believe this or not but you will find over the years there have been a number of incidents that have devastated the country, the London bombings, the Manchester bombings, then there is the usually ongoing incidents, drug trafficking's, people smuggling, child molestation gangs, pedophile gangs, all incidents that have been investigated by the UK police and security services and in every investigation the investigators and the police have found the same thing occurring in each and everyone of them and that is they all used devices that have strong encryption on them, encryption that cannot be cracked. That is how all of them communicate with one another which prevents the police and security services from catching them and stopping them in the act. Thousands of UK lives have been lost over the years due to criminals and bad actors being able to communicate with one another with impunity because the manufacturers of electronic devices have made security encryption so good that it cannot be cracked or bypassed with them saying 'we cannot help you because not even us the manufacturer can crack our own encryption'.
Any and all UK citizens:
FIND YOUR MP
Use this template (yeah I used ChatGPT but whatever) and send them an email.
Dear [MP Name],
My name is [your name] and I live in [town, city]. I am contacting you as my local MP.
Today, I read these articles about Apple disabling the "Advanced Data Protection" (ADP) feature in the UK in response to the government's demand of Apple to create a backdoor to access the data of UK customers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgj54eq4vejo
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...cryption-feature-from-uk-after-backdoor-order
I am writing to express my deep concern and disappointment regarding the government's decision to compel Apple to compromise user privacy by effectively forcing the removal of its ADP feature. I find this move not only alarming but a direct violation of fundamental digital security principles and personal freedoms.
Apple’s end-to-end encryption safeguards sensitive personal data, including device backups, messages, photos, and notes, ensuring they remain protected from breaches and unauthorized access. In an era of rising cyber threats, stripping away such security measures puts millions of UK citizens at unnecessary risk. This decision has also been met with significant international criticism, with concerns raised about the impact on national security and the UK's relationship with intelligence-sharing allies.
It is disgraceful that the government is leveraging the Investigatory Powers Act to demand a backdoor into user data—an act Apple has rightly refused to comply with. By forcing the company to disable ADP rather than respect privacy rights, the government is undermining the very security it claims to uphold. Cybersecurity experts have labeled this an “act of self-harm,” weakening online safety for UK-based users and setting a troubling precedent.
This policy is not only invasive but also counterproductive. Weakening encryption does not just impact potential criminal activity—it endangers journalists, activists, businesses, and everyday citizens who rely on secure communication. Furthermore, it sets a dangerous precedent, suggesting that the government can dictate global tech policy to the detriment of its own people. The fact that the Home Office has refused to confirm or deny the existence of this request only adds to concerns about transparency and accountability.
I urge you to oppose this overreach and push for policies that protect, rather than erode, digital privacy. The UK should be at the forefront of championing cybersecurity, not coercing companies into weakening their protections. I expect my government to stand up for civil liberties and security, not jeopardize them under the guise of surveillance. I look forward to your response on how you intend to address this urgent matter.
Sincerely,
[Your name]
yeah i doubt my MP knows how to use a phone at all.Thank you, I was just composing a message in my head to send to my MP!
I seriously doubt if many MPs have any understanding of data privacy and protection and what it really means. All the time UK MPs use unauthorised services such as WhatsApp for government business.
A lot of people on here owes me an apology because they were insisting that I was crazy for worrying about Apple letting governments have access to our files on our phones and even blame us for CSAM if we are labeled as LGBTQ in Trump’s America he can do that. I fear Apple is going to let him do whatever with us who aren’t ***Christian*** Approved.The sad and scary thing is that this could set off a domino effect.
As far as I'm concerned, government IS that potential malicious actor more often than not.Apple has long opposed creating backdoors in its products, maintaining thatsuch access points would inevitably be discovered by malicious actors.