I never understood the love of wireless headphones. It's another thing to charge (which has other consequences too) and the wired ones work well.
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iPhone X Apple: Put back headphone jack or I will switch to Android.
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Dropping the headphone jack was an objectively bad decision on Apple's part. That being said, it's not *that* hard to just put adapters on your headphones and stereos you plug into on a regular basis. It was consumer hostile, however, to eliminate something and make people use more dongles, but look at the new MBP, you can literally plug an adapter cable into a dongle into another dongle to use FW400 devices (a rare use case, but still funny).
That's great and all, and it just simply further reiterates that the whole response of somehow being mad if the headphone jack was still there is just some sort of a visceral emotional response not really based on anything that would actually make a difference of some sort.
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If you listen to music, podcasts, watch videos, etc. a lot with headphones then it forces you to buy extra things if you want to charge your phone as well. You either have to buy a wireless charging pad, or a pad and wireless charging case if you have the 7/7+, the more expnsive plus phones, or expensive bluetooth headphones to get all day battery life. Then you have to remember to charge your headphones every night, or bring another cable with you during the day in case the battery runs out. If you use the included headphones you have to choose between not listening as much as you normally would, or risk having your phone run out of power.
It was a consumer-hostile decision and acting like negative responses to that decision are groundless just because you dont mind charging yet another thing everyday or because you don't listen to media much is condescending and inaccurate.
It was a consumer-hostile decision and acting like negative responses to that decision are groundless just because you dont mind charging yet another thing everyday or because you don't listen to media much is condescending and inaccurate.
I have the airpods and I don’t have to charge them everynight thanks to the case. I only need to charge mine 1-2 times per week.
That’s my point, removing the jack increases the number of things you have to buy and manage as opposed to just using included headphones. You have to buy the AirPods and then you have to remember to charge the case or you have to carry the cable to charge your case or you might not be able to use them during the day.
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Can I live without a headphone jack?
Yes. I’ve been doing it for some months now with my 8 Plus.
Is it an annoying inconvenience that offers no benefit to consumers?
Also yes.
Yes. I’ve been doing it for some months now with my 8 Plus.
Is it an annoying inconvenience that offers no benefit to consumers?
Also yes.
That might be a stretch... imagine, if you will, a world without wires. I'm a fan.
Sure, I'd say that's very substantial. Having to manage wires, dongles, hubs, etc. for data transmission is a pain. I haven't used any of it for years, much much simpler process and all works well. This will only get better over time as well.
The headphone jack is not used for data transmission. I see many benefits of wireless charging as an option, but that's not what's being discussed unless you bring your charging pad with you everywhere so you can still use wired headphones while charging.
Now instead of managing headphone cords, you have to manage the charged status of your wireless headphones.
You haven't reduced the burden of management, just shifted it from one thing to another.
That being said, I see where it is better, or has a negligible difference, for many users.
The benefit? No wires to tangle ... or get caught on anything ... the ability to stick my phone in my back pocket and go in about my business without a worry ... the ability to stick my phone in my bag while driving and still be able answer phone calls, listen to texts and music ... the ability to leave my phone on my desk while wandering about the house, still connected via wireless headphones for music, texts, phone calls, etc.
Yea I just mean't music, data, or otherwise. Whatever you want to get from one device to another. I don't see it the same way. I charge my Airpods maybe once every 3 weeks, maybe a month. I never even think about it. I use them daily at the gym. Wires were always annoying in this scenario, something I'd have to deal with much more than charging them. Wireless is just so much better. If one doesn't agree, use your dongle or buy a phone with a headphone jack. Stomping your feet and crying to a forum won't help ya.
The issue isn't that you can use a headphone dongle, it's that you can't charge the phone while using a dongle. If someone uses them for a an hour or two at the gym then it really isn't an issue, but for people who use headphones for a lot of the day it is.
Having a discussion about the negatives of removing the headphone jack isn't stomping your feet; characterizing it as such makes you look like you can't handle someone criticizing Apple's decision.
I guess if you can't charge and then listen or use a dongle (they do exist) for this one specific use case, then you might be out of luck. I believe there are phones out there with a headphone jack to meet your needs as well. Haha there's nothing to handle, it was a decision Apple made and that's that. If you don't like the product, you buy another one. Again, crying about it on a forum (thread title) isn't going to make your headphone jack reappear. Apple is a business and made a decision, time for you as the consumer to make yours. It's simple.
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Using wireless headphones do allow one to charge the device while listening via headphones...
You are correct... having a discussion is not stomping ones feet... but "put the headphone jack back or I will switch to android" most definitely is. Did the OP really expect Apple to cave and run scared because of his "threat"?
As someone who works out regularly without wires, the AirPods have been the best solution for that. The weight of the wires and the wires being intrusive in the way in general, i’m willing to take less than par sound from Bluetooth headphones then having wired earphones anymore.
It's probably fair to say that this hasn't really been much about the OP for a while now given that the OP hasn't been in the thread since the 1st day, about 11 pages ago (especially given the context of OP's other threads/posts).
Believe it or not, wireless headphone work even on devices with headphone jacks.
And strangely enough, Apple still bundles wired headphone with their iPhones, just now they’re much more limited in the devices they can be used with.
So is the battery larger than it would be if the headphone jack was still present?
It’s pretty hard to say it offers no benefit as we don’t know how the hardware would be designed otherwise.
Was there a significant improvement in battery life from the 6s generation to the 7?
The battery may have had to get smaller in those generations had the headphone jack still existed. This is my exact point it’s very hard to say there’s no benefit.
