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iPhone X Apple: Put back headphone jack or I will switch to Android.

TechJunk1e said:
Yea because that’s not a false equivalency or anything
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It's like he's comparing the first stone wheel to a tire on a car....‍♂️. Sure, go ahead and put stone wheels on your car.
[doublepost=1525884486][/doublepost]Been using bluetooth headphones for years. No wires and added newer tech is better for me than a headphone jack. Just me personally.
 
Altis said:
What's the advantage to you of not having it? It makes no difference -- it's not like they replaced the headphone jack with something else.
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Of course they did. Every cubic millimeter inside these phones is precious. Or do you think there's a pocket of air inside the phone where the relatively large jack used to be located?
 
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This thread is dumb. Apple dropping the headphone jack was also dumb. However, I don't see it being that big of a deal to buy half a dozen dongles and just put one on everything you plug in if you're buying what amounts to a $1400 phone. Amazon has some good dongles for flying, or any other application where you need to be able to charge from a pack and use headphone at the same time.

I finally got a Bluetooth adapter in the car, it's marginally better than using the Aux jack, and cost all of $20.
 
nnoble said:
I have a cheap and cheerful SE but don’t use the headphone jack. You’re welcome to it. Dangling wires are history. I do have a pair of Bose sport wireless earbuds that switch very smoothly between my ‘phone, iPad and just recently a newly acquired AW too. Try fitting a jack socket into an AW!
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Reference the bolded in your post: I could not agree more. Bluetooth has been around for quite some time, it’s just growing in expansion with technology and battery efficiency, it’s just a matter of those who want to either accept Bluetooth for what it is or realize that the 3.5 mm Jack is antiquated. Bluetooth sound quality is not a wired quality as of yet, but I can attest that it truly has improved and Bluetooth sound quality is improving.
 
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Relentless Power said:
Reference the bolded in your post: I could not agree more. Bluetooth has been around for quite some time, it’s just growing in expansion with technology and battery efficiency, it’s just a matter of those who want to either accept Bluetooth for what it is or realize that the 3.5 mm Jack is antiquated. Bluetooth sound quality is not a wired quality as of yet, but I can attest that it truly has improved and Bluetooth sound quality is improving.
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Basically, courage, and all that.
 
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Relentless Power said:
Reference the bolded in your post: I could not agree more. Bluetooth has been around for quite some time, it’s just growing in expansion with technology and battery efficiency, it’s just a matter of those who want to either accept Bluetooth for what it is or realize that the 3.5 mm Jack is antiquated. Bluetooth sound quality is not a wired quality as of yet, but I can attest that it truly has improved and Bluetooth sound quality is improving.
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Are there BT earbuds with 10 hour battery life?
 
darngooddesign said:
Are there BT earbuds with 10 hour battery life?
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Do there need to be Bluetooth earbuds that provide 10 hour continual battery life?

However, the Airpods provide some impressive results:

AirPods with Charging Case, more than 24 hours listening time. UP to 11 hours talk time.

Airpods (Single charge) Up to five hours listening time and up to two hours talk time

15 minutes of charging in the case is equivalent to three hours of listening time and an hour of talk time.
 
i for one would actually be kind of mad at apple if they brought back the headphone jack. Whatever they eliminated it for surely adds to the phones user experience and who really wants wired headphones these days anyway?
 
Fthree said:
i for one would actually be kind of mad at apple if they brought back the headphone jack. Whatever they eliminated it for surely adds to the phones user experience and who really wants wired headphones these days anyway?
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What would it change for you, for example, with the headphone jack being there?
 
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UBS28 said:
I am tired of making sure I got my headphone adapter with me. That is not good user experience and it just doesn’t work straight out of the box which Apple products used to do.

And no, wireless headphones sounds terrible, I have tried them all. I only have a pair of wireless headphones for when I am flying due to the noise cancellation feature it has.

Looks like I will go to Android if the next generations $1500 iPhone’s have no headphone output.
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The iPhone SE has a headphone jack and has 4G LTE and from what I have read online the SE 2 will have a headphone jack well.
[doublepost=1525917197][/doublepost]If anyone hates their iPhone X or any other iPhone I will gladly volunteer to take it off their hands.
 
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The Android experience is like gambling since you have no way of knowing how user friendly a particular brand of Android is going to be. For example the Unimax Patriot requires manual settings for pop and imap when setting up outlook and Microsoft emails despite numerous other brands letting you sign in during the setup process like you would do within a browser. I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 and based on how well it works compared to other Androids I would recommend Samsung Galaxy over all other Android brands. Samsung Email is capable of sorting email alphabetically which is why I still use it from time to time despite Apple Mail being far more responsive.
 
nnoble said:
Space inside any iPhone is limited. Removing the headphone jack provides:
  1. Space for competing components
  2. Increases water resistance
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Oh my goodness, you are such a victim of Apple's ideology!!! Just believe everything Apple says; it is namely always "the truth" :eek:.
 
nnoble said:
Explain.
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You wrote:

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Space inside any iPhone is limited. Removing the headphone jack provides:
  1. Space for competing components
  2. Increases water resistance
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This is exactly (!) what Apple says to "justify" the change and you just repeated. Sorry but I cannot believe that Apple is not capable to make an iPhone with "competing components" and "increased water resistance" WITH headphone jack – for example as Samsung does. It is just a commercial move to remove the headphone jack.
 
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Relentless Power said:
Do there need to be Bluetooth earbuds that provide 10 hour continual battery life?

However, the Airpods provide some impressive results:

AirPods with Charging Case, more than 24 hours listening time. UP to 11 hours talk time.

Airpods (Single charge) Up to five hours listening time and up to two hours talk time

15 minutes of charging in the case is equivalent to three hours of listening time and an hour of talk time.
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I literally use my earbuds all day so yes there needs to be long battery life for them to be useful to me.
 
nnoble said:
Space inside any iPhone is limited. Removing the headphone jack provides:
  1. Space for competing components
  2. Increases water resistance
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Fthree said:
This:

  1. Space for competing components
  2. Increases water resistance
(Was posted above)
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So what would you be losing if the headphone jack is there using up a bit of space? And given that other water resistant devices exist with headphone jacks it seems that that's not really much of an issue to be mad about.
 
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C DM said:
So what would you be losing if the headphone jack is there using up a bit of space? And given that other water resistant devices exist with headphone jacks it seems that that's not really much of an issue to be mad about.
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the others are not as amazing as the iPhone X. its 2018 get some bluetooth headphones.
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darngooddesign said:
I literally use my earbuds all day so yes there needs to be long battery life for them to be useful to me.
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powerbeats 3 12hours.
 
Fthree said:
the others are not as amazing as the iPhone X. its 2018 get some bluetooth headphones.
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powerbeats 3 12hours.
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So basically still no particular reasoning to be mad about anything given that a phone like the iPhone X could still be just as "amazing" if it had a headphone jack.
 
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UBS28 said:
I am tired of making sure I got my headphone adapter with me. That is not good user experience and it just doesn’t work straight out of the box which Apple products used to do.

And no, wireless headphones sounds terrible, I have tried them all. I only have a pair of wireless headphones for when I am flying due to the noise cancellation feature it has.

Looks like I will go to Android if the next generations $1500 iPhone’s have no headphone output.
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Start packing your bags... the headphone jack ain't coming back.
 
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C DM said:
So basically still no particular reasoning to be mad about anything given that a phone like the iPhone X could still be just as "amazing" if it had a headphone jack.
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doubtful, i trust that apple has chosen to utilize that space for reasons that improve the quality of usage and i for one love using bluetooth headphones so with that trust I gain whatever it adds to the Xs greatness.
 
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