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I spy a crease!

The crease is inconsequential. It literally disappears from your vision because the anti-reflection coating is so darn good. The crease feel is almost non-existent that you forget that it's even there. This is from someone who have tried the Z Fold 4, Pixel Fold, and the OnePlus Open. The OnePlus simply has the best hardware and its now getting surpassed by the Honor Magic V3 and Vivo X Fold 3 Pro and Xioami Mix Fold 4. I didn't keep the OnePlus Open because I was waiting for the disappointing Z Fold 6.
 
And not everyone wants a foldable. Why can’t you get that.

Also you keep sounding confused as to why I mentioned android and the threads title mentions galaxy which is android.

Not that difficult
How does *having* foldables, whether on Android or forbid one day by Apple, that *you* don't have to buy in anyway impact you?
 
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If people want a smartphone, ok. Until I see decent wear and tear in production models not have to spend (5,000.00 example price) I don't need.
 
excuse me Mama.

You can work 100 years in sales.
You work with a percent or a percent of a percent of a fraction of a percent of humans that exist on earth.

Apples crunched the numbers. Apples done the market research.
They know better than you do.

But the cool thing about it is…….
If you don’t want one.



Don’t buy it.
And again if apple did that research where are you getting hundreds of millions from.

Also apple spent a decade working on apple car and we see how that turned out.
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Galaxy Foldable is terrible. Check out the latest Honor Magic V3 and Vivo X Fold 3 Pro to see how far behind the Galaxy Fold is compared to the ones from China.

Have you seen the Honor Magic V3 or the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro? It puts the Z Fold 6 to shame in all hardware respect. The Honor is incredibly thin once unfolded (4.4 mm), and its thickness is 9.3 mm vs the iPhone 15 Pro Max of 8.25 mm.


I have not see them yet. I’m sure the hardware is nice but anything android is terrible so it’s not something I follow
 
I’m a woman

Hundreds of millions?
Really. But im the hyperbolic one?

I also spent the last ten years working in consumer sales so I generally can speak based on a decade of experience working with the consumers.

What I have seen from iPhone users who see the galaxy foldables or the razr

“Oh that’s pretty cool looking.” Then they usually dismiss it because it’s android and ask for help with their iPhone purchases.

No most consumers are not demanding a foldable iPhones.

Android users and iPhone users utilize and have two entirely different wants.

There’s a reason why most of androids market share are low end devices. There’s a reason why the top 10 smartphones aren’t s24 or folds or pixels. It’s Samsung budget a series.

Android can afford gimmicks. See the first dual screen phone in 2010 (Kyocera echo). Then the 3d phones. The PlayStation phone. All phones I’ve owned. (Most of which failed)

iPhone users do not have the same demand and apple realizes that. You guys criticize them for stagnating. They know their base.

It’s not that we want stagnation we simply don’t want a device for the sake of apple making it to say they have it.

I’ve been doing this for ten years. I’ve worked in apple stores. I’ve sold foldables.

The only ones whining about this are ppl who use forums and Reddit’s to actually know apple is working on this.

The same ppl who are trying to androidfy iOS.

And trust me you are not hundreds of millions. You’re a very vocal and loud minority.
So you work in a phone shop, and think you know it all? Why would anyone come into the Apple Store and ask for products that they clearly don't have? Sure, you have a fair few, but they aren't the smartest amongst us...

I'd love another form factor. I've always liked flip phones. I'd like a smaller iPhone, but not be limited to having the small screen all the time. I have a macbook, and ipad for bigger work. I know my daughters would love the candybar foldable version.

Regardless, it is not about androidifying that has no bearing, it is great to have choice and variety.
 
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The crease is inconsequential. It literally disappears from your vision because the anti-reflection coating is so darn good. The crease feel is almost non-existent that you forget that it's even there. This is from someone who have tried the Z Fold 4, Pixel Fold, and the OnePlus Open. The OnePlus simply has the best hardware and its now getting surpassed by the Honor Magic V3 and Vivo X Fold 3 Pro and Xioami Mix Fold 4. I didn't keep the OnePlus Open because I was waiting for the disappointing Z Fold 6.
Glad you like yours! I guess things like this are subjective, though. For you, it's inconsequential, which is cool. For me, it's a no-go.

If Apple enters this market, I'd hope for them to do something different, like a rollable screen which potentially eliminates that central ridge:

 
People are so against new form factors in these forums for some reason. I'd love to see what Apple can do with a foldable, even if I'm not likely to buy one.
It's the same with the smaller MacBook... the assumption is if I don't need it then the market doesn't

As for myself I have a Flip and it's replaced my 15 Pro for going out running, golf, etc when I'm wearing shorts... actually it's also becoming more and more my "going out" phone (when I don't need the Apple ecosystem with me)

Given the mini went away it's a gap risk to not have the smaller form factors covered (especially if rumors are true that iPhones will get slightly bigger screens going forward)
 
A foldable the size of the current iPhones would be great for spreadhseets and games etc i.e. unfolds to a tablet.
 
I just don’t see the point of this.
Why change what is already been good for many years?

If it unfolded into a tablet, then yes it would be good. Though a Z flip design being an “iFold” doesn’t sound the most appealing.

Especially with the cress that will be visible on the screen. Including the material would have to be different which compromises scratch resistance. Unless Apple finds a way to overcome that.
 
I can plainly see a crease in that video! Or a ‘dip’ or a ‘ridge’ or a ‘groove’ or whatever people choose to call it. Whatever you call it, it’s visible - which is the thing that doesn’t work for me.

Not hating, though. And glad you’re happy with yours!
Yes, I would call it a ridge or valley perhaps, but it's not a crease. We are talking about a ridge that is maybe 1/20th of a millimeter deep, if even. And again, that is only because at the present time, physics won't allow any hardware behind this portion of the inner display. If you remove the screen from the device and set it on a table, it will lay completely flat. Anyway, I'm not trying to sell you on it, but you cannot see this ridge unless you are holding the phone at angles which you wouldn't normally be holding it, in lighting conditions that you won't be in 95% of the time. You also cannot feel the ridge when you move your finger over the middle of the display, unless you are pushing down harder than you should be. I say all this to say the crease, weight, and dimensions are no longer a factor which should deter anyone from at least trying a OnePlus Open, if they are interested in getting a book style foldable anyway. 😊
 
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Z Fold is nothing compared to the Honor Magic V3 for hardware. The Honor is just 1.05 mm thicker than the iPhone 15 Pro Max. This only gets better with each generation. The unfolded thickness is 4.4 mm while folded is 9.3 mm.

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The OnePlus Open still has the best overall hardware and software experience, in my opinion. I don't like Honor's version of Android. It is very buggy and not nearly as user friendly. Also, Honor and Vivo phones aren't covered on at least AT&Ts insurance, where my OnePlus Open is. Also, sometimes Honor and Vivo phones have trouble with 5G, in America anyway. I don't have any trouble getting and staying on 5G with my OPO.
 
So you work in a phone shop, and think you know it all? Why would anyone come into the Apple Store and ask for products that they clearly don't have? Sure, you have a fair few, but they aren't the smartest amongst us...
I haven’t worked just in phone stores and I have worked with marketing and directly with various OEMs as well as consumer experience.

So no it’s not just me working at the local telecom. Thanks though.
I'd love another form factor. I've always liked flip phones. I'd like a smaller iPhone, but not be limited to having the small screen all the time. I have a macbook, and ipad for bigger work. I know my daughters would love the candybar foldable version.
Again you’re a part of a very vocal minority.
Regardless, it is not about androidifying that has no bearing, it is great to have choice and variety.
It very much is androidfying.

Especially at the expense of the ethos of iOS and how it works. (See iOS 18 and its androidfication).
It's the same with the smaller MacBook... the assumption is if I don't need it then the market doesn't
Well in the case of smaller iPhones we saw as much as people “demanded” that the market didn’t want that.

Go figure. And I’ve actually seen more ppl demeanding another mini than a foldable iPhone.
 
Why would anyone come into the Apple Store and ask for products that they clearly don't have? Sure, you have a fair few, but they aren't the smartest amongst us...


The smartest among us? That sounds a bit elitist.
Furthermore people come into the stores to ask if their phones can do what this phone they heard can do all the time.

When I unfortunately sold android and thought android was an actual Os, there’s a reason why every android Phone was referred to as a droid even though they were using an Lg or Sony. People equated Verizon’s droid campaign with all androids.

Before the iPhone 6 came out ppl were wanting and asking for a bigger iPhone because they saw their friends with bigger devices.

Nobody is coming into apple stores or Oems asking when is apple doing a foldable? Most iOS users see android foldables as COOL but in passing not because they are demanding it.

My friend saw my z flip and said that looks cool but he’d never use it because it was android (smart man) and he didn’t really see the point of it because it seemed fragile

Same with emulators. RCS. That’s a vocal minority demanding it. Not the everyday apple consumer aka the majority of apple users. Just because you on a forum who cares about this and have your fellow friends hype it up doesn’t mean that’s what the market wants.

I can go onto a windows phone subreddit now and find a bunch of ppl who will tell you windows phone needs to come back. Probably more so than an iPhone foldable lol. But they aren’t the market. They would be loud fanatics.

Exhibit a.

Apple users are far more rigid and conservative in how much change they will accept so no as of today the market is not demanding foldables.

Android foldables aren’t even outselling slabs and the top android phones sold aren’t even high end phones lmao.

It’s their budget phone. The market has spoken then. They clearly want cheap laggy android.
 
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I haven’t worked just in phone stores and I have worked with marketing and directly with various OEMs as well as consumer experience.

So no it’s not just me working at the local telecom. Thanks though.

Again you’re a part of a very vocal minority.

It very much is androidfying.

Especially at the expense of the ethos of iOS and how it works. (See iOS 18 and its androidfication).

Well in the case of smaller iPhones we saw as much as people “demanded” that the market didn’t want that.

Go figure. And I’ve actually seen more ppl demeanding another mini than a foldable iPhone.
Im no vocal minority. Im expressing that I’d like that formfactor on a thread that is about that form factor. You’ve never see me spam this or other forums crying why they don’t do it.

And how is liking a form factor androidifying? It has nothing to do with Android. I don’t want Android thank you very much.

I honestly don’t understand how you can jump to those conclusions based on what I’ve posted.
 
Guess what, folks. "Nobody" on the Android side asked for foldable phones, either. Every review of foldable phones asks some variation of "who is this for?" "Is this ready for primetime?". But they keep making them, so somebody is buying them. I don't think Samsung et al are just throwing money down a hole

If Apple makes one, I guarantee they'll sell more units than the APV
 
Guess what, folks. "Nobody" on the Android side asked for foldable phones, either. Every review of foldable phones asks some variation of "who is this for?" "Is this ready for primetime?". But they keep making them, so somebody is buying them. I don't think Samsung et al are just throwing money down a hole

If Apple makes one, I guarantee they'll sell more units than the APV

Foldables have have a few niche benefits; but for the most part it's a gimmick.

But that's exactly what apple does; come up with a gimmick; market it to the moon then sell it for billions.
 
Im no vocal minority. Im expressing that I’d like that formfactor on a thread that is about that form factor. You’ve never see me spam this or other forums crying why they don’t do it.

And how is liking a form factor androidifying? It has nothing to do with Android. I don’t want Android thank you very much.

I honestly don’t understand how you can jump to those conclusions based on what I’ve posted.
You specifically maybe not. But you’re definitely a part of the vocal minority of macrumors users.
 
Cars are not their core business.
Phones are.
It’s not 2014 anymore mate.

While iPhone is clearly their biggest revenue apple is no longer centered solely around iPhone especially since there is a slump in iPhone sales.

These days apple is putting more focus on its other very successful products so they aren’t solely dependent on iPhone. Which is intelligent.

Apple spent a decade on car and how much money only to realize nobody asked for that.
 
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