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Do you think the first benchmarks are correct?


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Sanpete

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Just one thing. Apple said that its faster than 98 percent of Laptops PCs in the last year. The actual amount of laptops sold now will be higher more powerful than the M1 will be higher two percent. So Apple admits that some PC laptop chips are faster. What's the fastest PC laptop chips? The 35-45w Renoir chips, so by Apple's own statement is not Renoir, but some 14nm Intel chip as 10nm chips don't reach higher than 28w. ;)
Since the 14nm aren't the latest, and the Intel 10nm are 28W, must be the AMD!
 

M1 Processor

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Apple's graph suggests they compared the performance at that wattage. (But that graph may not bear close examination.)
Apple claims that the M1’s multithreaded performance at 10w exceeds the latest PC chip at ~40w. If they are comparing it to a mobile i5/i7 technically would not be incorrect according to what we know about the M1 now. AMD is a completely different animal, however.
 

mosher

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i would like to see how does 8/16Gb of RAM dealing with browsers with lots of open tabs and how does it impact performance. Also interested to how the ram is shared between cpu and gpu.
 

Gnattu

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i would like to see how does 8/16Gb of RAM dealing with browsers with lots of open tabs and how does it impact performance. Also interested to how the ram is shared between cpu and gpu.
About the latter, there is no magic. CPU and GPU are using the same addressing space and can "equally" access the memory. There is no more concept like "VRAM" because all 8/16 GB or RAM could be VRAM if it's what GPU requests.
 

thrtytwo

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Dec 12, 2012
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MBP 13" 16GB RAM, 1TB storage.

I've run a couple of iOS benchmarks, will run any i can download for free and upload results.

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Sanpete

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Apple claims that the M1’s multithreaded performance at 10w exceeds the latest PC chip at ~40w. If they are comparing it to a mobile i5/i7 technically would not be incorrect according to what we know about the M1 now. AMD is a completely different animal, however.
Not sure what you mean by the last part, but about all we really know is that the mystery chip has a TDP up to four times higher than the Air's, so probably around 40W, which could fit either Intel or AMD. (Apple claims to match the performance, not exceed it. Actually the same claim made about the 2%, not that they're faster but that they're at least as fast.)
 

thrtytwo

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Thank you for these. Can you please run the Wild Life Unlimited benchmark?
Not appearing in the app store, but i ran the other 3D Mark benchmark, Ice Storm (seems to be a lower end benchmark) and it maxed every version of the test at a rock solid 60fps.
 

donth8

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Not appearing in the app store, but i ran the other 3D Mark benchmark, Ice Storm (seems to be a lower end benchmark) and it maxed every version of the test at a rock solid 60fps.
Yes it will run as fast as the refresh rate on the screen. Please run them in unlimited mode. Also can you please run some GFXbench Metal benchmarks?
 

M1 Processor

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Not sure what you mean by the last part, but about all we really know is that the mystery chip has a TDP up to four times higher than the Air's, so probably around 40W, which could fit either Intel or AMD. (Apple claims to match the performance, not exceed it. Actually the same claim made about the 2%, not that they're faster but that they're at least as fast.)
Apple admits that the M1 isn't the fastest PC laptop chip. We know that the fastest laptop PC chips are the 35-45w Renoir, so by this we can deduce that the latest PC laptop chip in Apple's chart isn't Renoir. According to Apple and their chart, at 10w it exceeds this mystery chip.
 

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thrtytwo

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Yes it will run as fast as the refresh rate on the screen. Please run them in unlimited mode. Also can you please run some GFXbench Metal benchmarks?
Just installing the OS update then will run them ?☺️

Any of the GFX benchmarks in particular? I'm not really familiar with them and there seems to be quite a few.
 

donth8

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Just installing the OS update then will run them ?☺️

Any of the GFX benchmarks in particular? I'm not really familiar with them and there seems to be quite a few.
Thank you! All the offscreen ones would be good. But for sure Aztec Ruins Normal offscreen and Aztec High Tier offscreen.
 

jeanlain

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I've run a couple of iOS benchmarks, will run any i can download for free and upload results.
Nice.
But you should run 3DMark Wild Life ("unlimited" mode). SlingShot is an "old" openGL ES test. OpenGL ES is not optimised for the M1 (and vice versa). It's likely using some translation layer on top of Metal.
 
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