No they don't, since they say that 2% of PC laptops sold in 2019 are faster.
They claim that the M1 has the fastest CPU core, but before that, they say "when it comes to low power silicon".
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Apple Silicon M1: benchmarks and review for Mac Mini, MacBook Air and MBP 13 M1 and comparison with other brands
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They claim that the M1 has the fastest CPU core, but before that, they say "when it comes to low power silicon".
If you look at the footnotes on Apple's M1 pages, almost all of Apple's own specific processor tests are comparing the M1 in the MacBook Pro to:
* 1.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7–based 13-inch MacBook Pro systems
Which is the outgoing MacBook Pro 13" 2-port model with the i7 upgrade.
And the M1 in the Air to:
* 1.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7–based MacBook Air systems
Which, again, is the outgoing highest-end MacBook Air model.
Apple's presentation was really light on specifics, and those graphs were awful, but they have been a bit more transparent with their benchmarks than many have realised.
These Cinebench scores look amazing. The M1 has awesome single-core performance. It seems like you have to go look at desktop-class chips to beat it.
For multicore, the efficiency cores are not going to be helping that much in these kind of benchmarks - for performance workloads, the M1 is effectively a four-core CPU without hyper-threading. People comparing it to a 4800U or similar (which has eight cores and sixteen threads) are being a bit unfair. Wait for an M1X with eight performance cores and come back.
And every time I have searched for a laptop using Zen 2 that has a decent high-res screen and a good keyboard, they have been thin on the ground. The Air and Pro are just a click away.
The only things holding me personally back from getting a new Air are the small performance loss against the Pro (which is dumb, because it would still be significantly faster than my current MacBook Pro, pretty sure!), and the hope that we'll get a 4-port Pro next year with an even more powerful chip.
This is a massive game-changer for the PC industry.
* 1.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7–based 13-inch MacBook Pro systems
Which is the outgoing MacBook Pro 13" 2-port model with the i7 upgrade.
And the M1 in the Air to:
* 1.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7–based MacBook Air systems
Which, again, is the outgoing highest-end MacBook Air model.
Apple's presentation was really light on specifics, and those graphs were awful, but they have been a bit more transparent with their benchmarks than many have realised.
These Cinebench scores look amazing. The M1 has awesome single-core performance. It seems like you have to go look at desktop-class chips to beat it.
For multicore, the efficiency cores are not going to be helping that much in these kind of benchmarks - for performance workloads, the M1 is effectively a four-core CPU without hyper-threading. People comparing it to a 4800U or similar (which has eight cores and sixteen threads) are being a bit unfair. Wait for an M1X with eight performance cores and come back.
And every time I have searched for a laptop using Zen 2 that has a decent high-res screen and a good keyboard, they have been thin on the ground. The Air and Pro are just a click away.
The only things holding me personally back from getting a new Air are the small performance loss against the Pro (which is dumb, because it would still be significantly faster than my current MacBook Pro, pretty sure!), and the hope that we'll get a 4-port Pro next year with an even more powerful chip.
This is a massive game-changer for the PC industry.
I found this video of "head of tech". They have installed a lot of software (e.g. homebrew, xcode (at 3h 26m), minecraft, they also searched for pubg, but wasn't available) during their 4h+ stream. I did not watch everything, just skipped through, but it looked good so far.
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I don't necessarily disagree with you, just want to point out that these quoted scores are abnormally high when compared to trusted third-party reviews such as notebook check. For instance, Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 is known to be one of the fastest 4800U implementation out there, and yet it scores well under 9880H in Cinebench R20
The Ryzen 7 4800U is an Absolute Monster: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 14 Laptop Review
After facing a few delays, AMD's premier Ryzen 7 4800U is finally starting to hit store shelves. Results are insane for a 14-inch subnotebook to the point where it'd be tough to recommend an Intel counterpart when given the same price.
It could indeed be an artifact of the first run, before the machine reaches it's sustained equilibrium, but with R23 defaulting to 10 minutes rounds... I'd just like to see some screenshots from reliable benchmarks runners
I mean it's in basically in top 5 fastest single-core CPUs, al things considered. It's really not bad at all for an entry-level part that you can have in a $999 passively cooled laptop.
I own an Asus G14 with a 4800HS 35W CPU, it'll comfortably outperform the i9 in my MBP 16 and ThinkPad P1. As others have posted it's all about the wattage supplied to the CPU and thermal capabilities.
On day to day use it's drawing 12-18W's. Battery life is typically 8-10 hours.
On day to day use it's drawing 12-18W's. Battery life is typically 8-10 hours.
I don't know if these results are good or not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Edit: It got a pretty warm during the tests but not too hot, I don't think the fan even came on. I put my ear right up to the back of it and couldn't hear anything. I've previously owned a late 2014 15" MBP and that thing got too hot to touch and screamed like a jet engine under load.
Edit: It got a pretty warm during the tests but not too hot, I don't think the fan even came on. I put my ear right up to the back of it and couldn't hear anything. I've previously owned a late 2014 15" MBP and that thing got too hot to touch and screamed like a jet engine under load.
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They were offscreen benchmark tests, don't feel like anything 😂
I'd love to test it on a relatively graphics intense game but the only one i can think of for mac is tomb raider or civ V and neither of them are free haha.
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This is great! Compared to the 5300M inside the 16 inch MacBook pro it is not too far away only about 13% slower:
GFXBench - Unified cross-platform 3D graphics benchmark database
The first unified cross-platform 3D graphics benchmark database for comparing Android, iOS, Windows 8, Windows Phone 8 and Windows RT capable devices based on graphics processing power.
It’s good news that even when maxed out GPU wise in FCP they were both barely warm to the touch on the top and they reported them both at being the same temperature.
Edit: They’re saying the bottom is definitely warm but not hot like the old ones and the Air is actually cooler.
Compared to the 5500M it is about 23% slower. The 5600M is about 70% faster but uses 50w of power. If Apple can double the gfx cores to 16 inside their next chip it would be a monster!This is great! Compared to the 5300M inside the 16 inch MacBook pro it is not too far away only about 13% slower:
GFXBench - Unified cross-platform 3D graphics benchmark database
The first unified cross-platform 3D graphics benchmark database for comparing Android, iOS, Windows 8, Windows Phone 8 and Windows RT capable devices based on graphics processing power.gfxbench.com
i watched the whole stream the mba is just amazing:Same performance with mbp without fan, battery life is same also the whole case is warmer than the mbp.I think i will send my noisy 16" back to apple.
That’s good to hear. How would this compare to the 5k iMac? Would that be able to replace that GPU? Or would they need something like 3x the cores?
Rumour is they're working on a discrete GPU for desktop class Macs, if true it would probably (looking at these results) be up to the task.
The Radeon Pro 5700XT in the 27 inch iMac is about 100% faster, if apple puts 20 GPU cores in their desktop chips they could beat it if it scales well.
I think this is overstating things. Lets see how the M1 performs in some reasonable game benchmarks first.
Amazingly, Blizzard seem to be on board with WoW (!) so there is at least one game that people actually play that can be tested. I'm particularly interested in whether running the M1 fanless results in significant performance degradation. The MacBook Air did really well in Cinebench in that regard, and if that holds up in extended gameplay as well, that would be great!
That the thing, for my Maya tests, the 16" Mbp after 2 min the chip were around at 98-99C and after the fans started to kick hard the temp went down to around 92C and the top part of the keyboard is around 42C
Here, with this M1 the temp is around 82-83C and the keys are around 35-36C so thing about the same as the human body...its insane, the Pc industry is at risk...who can challange this future? Microsoft owns win10 but they dont own arm chips ..Samsung...not, QUalcomm, doesnt have OS(and i saw how QC is running on my surface pro x), Google has android but we know how android dev are for Pro apps...and for big and scale UI displays
Again, somebody in 2-3 must challenge this...because Apple needs competition, otherwise i dont see Apple doing well after antitrust will target Apple..
Bummer. I hope 3DMark will make it available. I'm not sure why SlingShot is available on macOS and Wilde Life is not.It's not showing up in the app store for me
They just finished Cinebench on the Mini and it got 7600. Pro was 7600. Air was 6600
They’re saying they haven’t heard any fan noise on the Mini, even after running cinebench. He has a 16” Pro next to him and has said it’s annoying how loud it is. I just skipped around on the last stream but did hear him say he couldn’t hear the 13” Pro either.
They’re saying they haven’t heard any fan noise on the Mini, even after running cinebench. He has a 16” Pro next to him and has said it’s annoying how loud it is. I just skipped around on the last stream but did hear him say he couldn’t hear the 13” Pro either.
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Mac mini WITH external display running these test ....the mac mini is kept around 32C while my Intel 16" Mbp on the top keyboard part is around 42-43C