More RAM only helps when there’s a bottleneck. We simply do not know yet unless we see a comparison. This is the kind of stuff barefeats.com does. Cant wait until they get machines.
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Apple Silicon M1: benchmarks and review for Mac Mini, MacBook Air and MBP 13 M1 and comparison with other brands
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More RAM only helps when there’s a bottleneck. We simply do not know yet unless we see a comparison. This is the kind of stuff barefeats.com does. Cant wait until they get machines.
It's not going to show in benchmarks, but I definetley don't recommend going with 8GB in 2020. If you are going to use the same apps, they will probably use the same amount. And yes, the upgrade pricing is really annoying. I think they are going with the German luxury car strategy - cheap base model and very expensive options.
Wow the fans don't come on even with an external monitor and performance stays the same. watch the bits where he tests the gpu and cinebench with the mini and m1 pro
he did cinebech with i7 16" vs the 13" m1.The is no fan noise and 6c cooler than the 16" also better score
How can you send it back to Apple? I also would like to do that because I'm unhappy with the performance (and the noise) while using an external screen (2019/i9/32/5500m). My new 13" mbpr will arrive in two days
i am still in the return periodHow can you send it back to Apple? I also like to do that because I'm unhappy with the performance (and the noise) while using an external screen. My new 13" mbpr will arrive in two days
That’s great to hear, I sold my 16” three weeks ago in advance of the announcement, it was a beast but I honestly used my MacBook 12 (2017) more for everything but my video work because of how annoying the heat and noise were. If my [ordered, but yet to arrive] MBA can come close to the old 16” performance and do it silently, it’ll be perfect.
Re boot time.
with File Vault on you see the log in screen before boot up. With File Vault off you have boot up before log in screen.
Just played some LoL. Doesn't open the launcher consistently, i had to reboot it 5 times to get it to load to the point where I could launch the game, but i got there eventually. Don't know if that's compatibility issue or something else.
I ran it at native res something by 1600. Everything on medium but environment set to high and i was getting between 70-100 fps. Looked nice. Was too hard playing with a trackpad so I will try again tomorrow with a mouse and play around with the settings a bit.
I ran it at native res something by 1600. Everything on medium but environment set to high and i was getting between 70-100 fps. Looked nice. Was too hard playing with a trackpad so I will try again tomorrow with a mouse and play around with the settings a bit.
Well, yes, the 4800U is kind of cheating ?. Anyway, it depends on what you want to get from this comparison. I think that they are 3 ways to look at that:
- Some people are trying to prove the death of AMD and Intel and that it beats them in every possible configuration and use case. This is very unlikely and AMD should be on Zen 4 (5nm) when Apple updates the Mac Pro.
- Just being curious how it stacks up. I'm interested in the developments in the hardware market, what Apple is doing, how the others are going to respond and so on. That's why I'm looking at the 4800U, because it's close in terms of performance, how fair is this comparison is questionable, but the Yoga Slim is close in weight.
- People looking if the new Macs are a good buy. In all practical means, it should be an excellent machine (might have some compatibility issues, but it seems fine). Great battery life, low (or no) noise and great single-core performance is a thing that everyone will notice. You are no longer sacrificing a lot of terms in performance in every day tasks to get a laptop below 1.5 kg (that's also true for Zen 2 and the 10nm Intels to some extend, but with worse battery life and noise). So an ultra portable laptop is becoming a viable alternative for a lot of use-cases and buying a faster CPU without a specific use, just to make your every day experience feel faster, no longer makes a lot of sense, because it's impossible to notice and to utilize more cores when opening an app for example. Actually, the faster GPU is probably way more noticeable.
Wow, after watching MKBHD and Dave Lee's review I'm so disapointed.
None really compared what enthusiast people want to know :
- When does the air really throttle (it will throttle, or pro wouldn't have a fan)
- Does the 16gb makes a difference?
None really compared what enthusiast people want to know :
- When does the air really throttle (it will throttle, or pro wouldn't have a fan)
- Does the 16gb makes a difference?
Thanks, Dave said the same.
Tho I want to know.. what after that?
What if I play CS GO for hours?
What if I do video editing for hours?
Of course it throttles, and you can clearly see throttling in the benchmarks. That's why m1 Pro scores higher in multi-core Cinebench for example. But the important part here is throttling is part of normal operation of these chips: they are designed around thermal throttling. Throttling with these chips simply means that the performance will settle down at a level 10-15% lower than the initial 30 or so seconds burst
Let me put it like this... it will perform as good after two hours of CS GO as it will perform after 15 minutes.
Depends how they manage ressources and throttling.
From the capture above, multicore performance hit is about 30% in multicore
Dave Lee mentions that the Air started to throttle only after 8-10min of looping cinebench r23. Even at 10 min the air only saw a 500 point drop in multi-core in his test (no single core drop). So it appears that the Air can handle sustained loads in excess of 10 min without noticeable drops in performance.