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Apple Silicon M1: benchmarks and review for Mac Mini, MacBook Air and MBP 13 M1 and comparison with other brands
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I expect its far less in benchmarks in the MBA, no cooling+throttling. I hope its not that much of a difference 😀 Don’t want to order the 512 gb one.
Expect the info to drop tomorrow (youtubers etc)or Monday depending on where do you live
Cool! It seems Apple is doing a lot of media about the M1. Does anyone have a full list of them? I don’t want to miss anyAdded in the very first summary posting
When asked about the differentiation between the MacBook Air and the MacBook Pro, both of which are powered by the M1 processor, Apple’s Craig Federighi was “quick to point out that the latter of the two has an active cooling system“. According to The Independent, Federighi then started sketching a graph to illustrate how heat can play a role in performance.
Apple tells us how it made its new chip and MacBooks
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I follow what you’re saying to an extent, but I disagree with your conclusion - I’d expect M1 to be CHEAPER for Apple than buying any relevant CPU from Intel or AMD, including i3 and whatever AMD’s comparable CPU is. If you’re looking at it from a customer point of view, we’re getting i7-beating performance at the i3 price point. While probably giving Apple higher margin. In other words, whichever way you look at it, Apple’s competitiveness by doing this is significantly increased. Intel and AMD is unlikely to be able to compete on performance anytime soon, and even if they lower their prices, Apple won’t be interested.
In other words, they will be left to compete for the less profitable low-end PC market below Apple’s price points. Intel will become what AMD has been until at least recently, and to an extent still - the poor-man’s choice. And just when AMD started being up to speed and started competing in the profitable segments, they are now knocked back down.
I fully expect Microsoft to embrace this development, and make a version of Windows on Arm that runs on Macs. That’s the future now. Unless Intel and AMD start making ARM chips, they’re dinosaurs. We’ll have a transition period where some PC users have to stick to Intel/AMD for legacy reasons, but over time the majority of Windows will move to Arm too. Microsoft has tried and failed to make that transition, but now that Apple is leading the way, Microsoft will follow.
Mac is the king of low-midrange PC market, they've always been ever since they switched to Intel. That's their bread and butter, Safari/Office users.
In graphic (not compute) tasks, the M1 could be on par with the Radeon Pro 570X (and way ahead of the 560X). The TBDR architecture of the M1 (for which Metal has been tailored) benefits graphics more than it benefits compute. Also, Apple GPUs can use 16-bit AND 32-bit numbers in shaders, for precision and to boost efficiency, which PC GPUs can't.
That's great! I suspected that since it can render more pixels/s:
M1 41 GPixel/s, 82 GTexel/s
Pro 560X 16.06 GPixel/s, 64.26 GTexel/s
Pro 570X 35.36 GPixels/s, 123.8 GTexel/s
Pro 580X 38.4 GPixels/s, 172.8 GTexel/s
Pro 5300 52.8 GPixels/s, 132 GTexel/s
Pro 5500 XT 56.22 GPixels/s, 168.7 GTexel/s
Pro 5700 86.4 GPixels/s, 194.4 GTexel/s
Pro 5700 XT 95.94 GPixels/s, 239.8 GTexel/s
That's great! I suspected that since it can render more pixels/s:
M1 41 GPixel/s, 82 GTexel/s
Pro 560X 16.06 GPixel/s, 64.26 GTexel/s
Pro 570X 35.36 GPixels/s, 123.8 GTexel/s
Pro 580X 38.4 GPixels/s, 172.8 GTexel/s
Pro 5300 52.8 GPixels/s, 132 GTexel/s
Pro 5500 XT 56.22 GPixels/s, 168.7 GTexel/s
Pro 5700 86.4 GPixels/s, 194.4 GTexel/s
Pro 5700 XT 95.94 GPixels/s, 239.8 GTexel/s
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The top end MacBook Pro and iMac are at least competitive for content creators, and a lot of musiicans, photographers, graphic artists and video editors prefer Macs. Sure you can get more powerful laptops and desktop computers that arguably offer better value for money, but Apple still plays in this space.
Geekbench measurements Apple Silicon now include more MBP 13 measurements, check https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?q=Apple+silicon+ or search on Geekbench for Apple silicon .
The top 5 Single Core is now:
The top 5 Single Core is now:
as expected...now lets hope others will run these benchmarks 3-4 times in a row to see the diff between those with active cooling and the macbook air
Geekbench doesn’t measure effects of active cooling that well. “Geekbench is designed to test CPU's in short bursts to not get them into thermal throttling (this is by design, it is supposed to be CPU test, not cooling test”
That's why I'll download and run Cinebench R23 with their 30-minute torture test. Should, provide a decent benchmark that way.Geekbench doesn’t measure effects of active cooling that well. “Geekbench is designed to test CPU's in short bursts to not get them into thermal throttling (this is by design, it is supposed to be CPU test, not cooling test”
Personally, I'm pumped by the MBA performance, as I only need short bursts of activities and I didn't want to lose any max performance to the MBP, and it looks like I won't.
I'd rather pocket that £250 toward 25% of a new MBA upgrade in a few years, once my daughter is ready for a computer (3-4 years).
i didnt said Geekbench...but benchmarksGeekbench doesn’t measure effects of active cooling that well. “Geekbench is designed to test CPU's in short bursts to not get them into thermal throttling (this is by design, it is supposed to be CPU test, not cooling test”
(Geekbench is also an benchmarks but not something heavy)those will be the mainstream key....and of course real usage
Almost all of us run benchmarks like Cinebench or ungine etc
Few hours left to see these macs
yup, this posting will become sooooo obsolete
At least we had an enjoyable week looking out for the new tech to arrive! Thanks for starting this discussion.yup, this posting will become sooooo obsolete
If you guys want to test it right then just install Resolve and playback 4K RED video. Easy peasy.
https://www.red.com/sample-r3d-files
https://www.red.com/sample-r3d-files