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Mac.World

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I love Fry's because it's so huge but unfortunately they still don't carry everything.

Edit - also Micro Center's email receipts @ checkout is awesome. Does any other store even do this?

Old Navy, Kmart and Sears do as well. Hoping it becomes the standard, especially with things like Google Wallet.

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Google is selling the Nexus 7 at a loss.

How is Best Buy supposed to sell it a make a profit? Maybe that's why

Incorrect, they are not selling at a loss. They are selling at a very small margin, smaller than the Kindle Fire in fact, but a tear down did show they are making between $20 and $30 per Nex7. Link to Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/07/13/googles-nexus-will-sell-at-a-profit-but-a-smaller-one-than-amazons-kindle-fire/

I don't know why iFans like you put out b.s. and then expect people to take anything you say seriously. You'll put out any negative comment on Android, regardless if it is true or not. Seriously, why do you even post in here?
 

ActionableMango

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Sep 21, 2010
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Best Buy employees also tell you to get a Monster brand HDMI cable because it has more bandwidth and makes your HD faster.
 

alent1234

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Old Navy, Kmart and Sears do as well. Hoping it becomes the standard, especially with things like Google Wallet.

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Incorrect, they are not selling at a loss. They are selling at a very small margin, smaller than the Kindle Fire in fact, but a tear down did show they are making between $20 and $30 per Nex7. Link to Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/07/13/googles-nexus-will-sell-at-a-profit-but-a-smaller-one-than-amazons-kindle-fire/

I don't know why iFans like you put out b.s. and then expect people to take anything you say seriously. You'll put out any negative comment on Android, regardless if it is true or not. Seriously, why do you even post in here?

so if best buy sold them then they would have to sell it at a loss to best buy?
 

Mac.World

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so if best buy sold them then they would have to sell it at a loss to best buy?

Not neccessarily. But I also wasn't referring to BB, or any retailer.

If we are to refer to BB, I would think a lot of it not being sold there has to do with tiny profit margins and BB being in financial hardship. If they can't make good money on a product, it isn't worth the effort to pay for distribution. As it is BB is closing a lot of stores to save money. Online retailers like Amazon are putting a hurting on brick and mortar stores like BB.
 

alent1234

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how many is google making? if they want to sell at best buy they will have to make a few hundred thousands at the minimum. any will probably have to agree to take them back if they don't sell by some specified date
 

Mac.World

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how many is google making? if they want to sell at best buy they will have to make a few hundred thousands at the minimum. any will probably have to agree to take them back if they don't sell by some specified date

Google isn't making any hardware. Asus makes the Nexus 7 and then Google distributes. Thus far, sales estimates range from 1 to 2 million sold. Figure in a 5 to 10 percent return rate and a safe bet is approx 1.5 million, with likely sales of 6 to 8 million by years end (good press is pushing sales along, but the ipad mini will likely disrupt those figures.)

Anyway, I doubt BB will buy any, especially with the new iPad mini coming. Much more profit there. If I was the CEO, I would dump a lot of the Android tablets that don't meet a certain profit margin. Have you seen the crap they sell? Asus is really the only game in town, Android wise, for tablets (Transformer TF-300 and 700 and the Nexus 7).
 

G51989

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Feb 25, 2012
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huh? Microsoft did this kind of thing for at least at decade before anyone did anything about it.

This is a very different situation, there was a point in the 1990s when it was literally almost impossible to buy a PC that wasn't running windows. Microsoft almost had a total monopoly over OEMs.

Apple doesn't hold a total monoply in anything.

The situation with Microsoft, was that. if an OEM decided they would offer more than just Windows as a preloaded OS, Microsoft would threaten to pull that OEM's windows license. And at that point in time, No windows on your machines = out of business. So they quite literally had control over the OEMS and hardware makers. It was pretty crazy ( I was a bit young at the time, but know plenty of people in the industry who remember that ) from what I've heard. Its why Microsoft got in trouble with the DOJ, they pretty much had a total monopoly, and as far as Desktop/Laptops OS's go, they still kinda do.

To also put it into perspective how huge Microsoft was back then, adjusted for inflation in todays dollars, I think they were worth over 800 billion dollars. Yeah. Big. Up until somewhat recently, almost any company that got into a tango with Microsoft on a competitive or legal front got anally pwnd.

Apple it a different Situation, they don't have a monopoly in any market. Not even close. If Apple goes to Best buy or Frys, or Wal Mart or whatever big boy retailer and says " you can only sell iPads and iPhones and no other phones or tablets " the retailers will walk away and not care.

Same thing with carriers, If Apple goes to verzion, or Sprint, or whoever and says " You can now only sell iPhones, or we won't sell anymore iphones to you " The carrier will walk away, because they'll be fine without the iPhone.

Very different .
 

blackhand1001

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how many is google making? if they want to sell at best buy they will have to make a few hundred thousands at the minimum. any will probably have to agree to take them back if they don't sell by some specified date

I don't think they will have trouble selling them. Unlike the kindle fire people actually are recommending this to their friends like crazy after purchasing it.
 

dukeblue91

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huh? Microsoft did this kind of thing for at least at decade before anyone did anything about it.

Totally a different thing!
When exactly did MS tell any retailer that if you sell a PC you can't be selling any Apple product.
They never did that.
What they did was telling their OEM's that they aren't allowed to any other OS like Linux on their PC's, which yes was Illegal too but not even close to what is being suggested here.
 

VFC

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Why would corporate tell a peon why they do/do not carry a product.
Laughable.....

I work at the HQs of a fortune 100 company. It is not unusual for us "corporate elite" to pass certain strategic information on to those "peons" we used to work with in the field offices or other folks we have developed relationships with over the years.

In fact, I am in regular contact with company people from all over the world. They give me feedback from their customer interactions and I bounce new ideas off them. So I could believe that a BB corporate person would call a few store managers and discuss the sales impact of not selling the Nexus 7. I can also believe that a couple store managers would share that decision with some of their blue-shirt sales staff.

Now if Apple and BB CEOs made a back-door deal not to sell the Nexus 7, then very few corporate staff members (if any) would be privy to that agreement.
 

Hastings101

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The only people that would know for sure Apple didn't want them selling the Nexus 7 are Best Buy's upper level management and I doubt they would go around telling people. There are a lot of electronic goods that Best Buy doesn't sell for various reasons, the Nexus 7 could just be part of that group. It's a shame they don't, it's a fantastic 7-inch tablet.
 

cynics

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Jan 8, 2012
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Why is this "illegal" to some? Next time I goto a restaurant and all they have is coke products I'm going to flip out!

I don't see how it's illegal for a manufacture to threaten to pull THEIR products if you sell something else. BB doesn't have to sell a product they don't want to sell regardless of the reason.

If I owned a store I would sell what I want to sell. I would negate any legality by saying "my store doesn't sell that product, sorry".
 

VFC

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I work there, you are simply wrong. They can't manufacture enough of the 7's to get the bulk order Best Buy would need to supply its inventory.

Like I've been saying, I ****ing work there. You just don't listen to the truth when its told to you.

Still no Nexus 7's at Best Buy. Since you work there, can you give us a status of the supply chain?

BTW - Staples had the Nexus 7 on the cover of this weekend's sales flyer. They have a limit of 5 per person. That is probably to prevent the Best Buy employees from making purchases to stock their shelves...lol.
 

Rogifan

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Nov 14, 2011
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Just curious, does Amazon sell the Nexus 7 on their website? I know they don't sell the iPad (at least not new).
 

libssd

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Just curious, does Amazon sell the Nexus 7 on their website? I know they don't sell the iPad (at least not new).
I'm not trying to split hairs, but Amazon vendors sell the Nexus 7, not Amazon itself. It's a significant difference. As long as it's not illegal, Amazon doesn't much care what one of its affiliates sells, and if they have the appropriate business relationship, Amazon may fulfill the order, but it's not "sold by Amazon."

  • Sold by IMG Direct and Fulfilled by Amazon.
  • Sold by greentree9 and Fulfilled by Amazon.
A similar situation exists with the Soundfreaq Sound Kick Bluetooth speakers, which are available from Amazon resellers at a 10-30% premium over purchase at Best Buy or Target.
 

VFC

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Still no Nexus 7's at BB. They are selling the new 7" Kindle Fire HD and Galaxy Tab 2 tablets. They also are selling the older 7" Acer Iconia and Barnes and Noble Nook tablets.

I'm fairly certain now that this rumor is true. The N7 is selling extremely well at the Micro Center and Staples. Why would BB not cash in on this device unless they were pressured not to sell it.
 

Rogifan

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Nov 14, 2011
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Still no Nexus 7's at BB. They are selling the new 7" Kindle Fire HD and Galaxy Tab 2 tablets. They also are selling the older 7" Acer Iconia and Barnes and Noble Nook tablets.

I'm fairly certain now that this rumor is true. The N7 is selling extremely well at the Micro Center and Staples. Why would BB not cash in on this device unless they were pressured not to sell it.

If Apple wants to stop the Nexus 7 wouldn't they also try and stop the Kindle Fire? I mean that's what people claimed when Target stopped selling it.
 

blackhand1001

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If Apple wants to stop the Nexus 7 wouldn't they also try and stop the Kindle Fire? I mean that's what people claimed when Target stopped selling it.
Because unlike the kindle fire which is in my opinion a medicre experience at best, the nexus 7 offers a well thought out, smooth, fast, full fledged android experience. People aren't getting tricked into thinking this thing will do everything an android device can do only to find out its a locked down amazon centric media access device.

Almost everyone is happy with the nexus 7. It is a gateway into the android world.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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I don't know why iFans like you put out b.s. and then expect people to take anything you say seriously. You'll put out any negative comment on Android, regardless if it is true or not. Seriously, why do you even post in here?

Don't you know by now that's his M.O.?
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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Because unlike the kindle fire which is in my opinion a medicre experience at best, the nexus 7 offers a well thought out, smooth, fast, full fledged android experience. People aren't getting tricked into thinking this thing will do everything an android device can do only to find out its a locked down amazon centric media access device.

Almost everyone is happy with the nexus 7. It is a gateway into the android world.

So you think Apple is more threatened by what up to now has been a niche product vs. the best selling Android tablet on the market from the world's largest online retailer? Right....

You think most people have a clue about whether the Fire is locked down or not, or even care for that matter? You give the average consumer far too much credit.
 
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