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Apple Still Hasn't Discussed the Vision Pro's Weight and Optional Top Head Strap
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Does anyone remember all the nasty comments about AirPods looking silly hanging from the ear? And now they are everywhere, including in public. How 'bout that?
Been browsing MR forums all week and disappointed I haven't seen a photoshopped image that features Newton, Pippin, Cube, etc and Vision Pro....or did I miss this?
Statics vs. dynamics. It will feel much heavier because you head isn’t static. Not to mention the safety issue of wearing a big battery around your cranium.
What’s your source on this? That’s disappointing if true, I wish they’d gone with ~7000mAh to give three hours of battery life - I’d like to be able to get through a full feature-length movie. The good news, if this is accurate, is that it will probably charge up quickly during a snack intermission.
Ahh that's a good point. It could also make it uncomfortable to use while lying down - which, let's admit, a bunch of people will do. Movies in bed on a huge screen on your ceiling sounds pretty cool.
I was thinking the same thing. The mockup wasn't just some random conceptual someone designed. It was based on what people have actually seen, which is why it looks so similar.
This article shows the original drawing The Information put together after seeing internal Apple images of a late stage prototype. Ian Zelbo then took that and created the conceptual we've been seeing for the past year and a half.
Not necessarily that I want or need to (I see you trying to bait me there!). Only because that image is an inevitable/obvious meme in the context of the VP discussion.
Personally, I think the headset has great potential for certain prof/industrial/education applications, but will be a harder sell for average consumer.
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In order to get a full experience Apple wants you to have the Apple Vision Pro plugged 🔌 into the electric socket at all times. That is the only way!
Apple may want you to rely on the battery only for a shorter period of time. Keep in mind this is the first-gen item. Improvements will be made only if this product succeeds. I wonder if the device will also overheat if you constantly use it on the battery.
Also notice how this is only available in the U.S. market.
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So basically this is a product for people to use at home, alone. And that’s what Apple thinks is the future?
mAh is meaningless unless you're comparing the same voltage. MacBook Air and two AA batteries both offer about 4,000 mAh. But they're obviously different - you can't run MacBook on AA. The correct universal unit to measure battery capacity is Whr.
In this case, 18 Whr is about the same as iPad mini 5/6.
Still not as dorky as ski googles on your face. And you can quickly put your phone in your pocket/purse. Obviously Apple doesn’t expect people to use this outside their house. Which to me doesn’t make it the future of anything.
The AirPods still look silly. They were only elongated to keep the Apple wired buds look and make sure others know you're using an Apple product. The fact they are not as criticized now is the result of Apple positioning itself as a luxury brand rather than a tech brand. People will wear any goofy thing if they believe it will communicate they are part of an exclusive in-group and AirPods are the perfect example of that phenomenon.
People keep pointing out the Steve Balmer moment but I want to point out that every real smack down that Apple ever did was under Jobs and not Tim Cook. Jobs had an uncanny ability to see where things were going and get there first. The original iPhone had no app store but what it did have was the ability to put the internet in your pocket for the first time ever. Sure, other devices had "internet" connections but those devices only had access to cheap clunky "mobile" sites that had little to no real functionality and were difficult to navigate. The iPhone was the first device that was able to fully render desktop websites and anyone who saw it recognized it was a game changer.
The Vision Pro is a different story. Unlike AirPods or the Apple Watch I see the Vision Pro as an inconvenience. Imagine trying to use it to type an email while sipping on your morning cup of coffee. If you're working and you want to get up to grab a snack you either have to take the goggles off making sure to not snag the battery cord or you have to make your way to the kitchen using a camera feed to display your surroundings. Neither sounds comfortable or convenient. Further, lets say you want to get some work done while using public transit on your way to work. This would be fairly simple with an iPad or Macbook but with the VP are you going to pull it out of a bag, connect a battery pack that is in your pocket, strap it on then start swinging your arms out in front of yourself while grabbing air?
The Vision Pro could be an amazing gaming device but at $3500 and competing against other gaming VR systems that already have hundreds and hundreds of quality games what chance does it have? Especially since it doesn't have gaming controllers for more complicated in-game functions. The PC game store Steam keeps publicly available data on which devices are used to play their games. These numbers show that while there are plenty of people out there playing on top end $5-6,000 PC's the bulk of gamer are playing on lower mid range devices that are easily affordable. For this reason among others I believe the Vision Pro will not be a viable gaming platform.
As others have pointed out, Apple itself does NOT have a killer app that will turn the industry on its head and finally make VR a viable mainstream concept. Even worse, Apple is saying they are giving developers time to dream something amazing up which is a clear indication that Apple themselves had no idea as to what the real utility of their own product will be. I'm sure developers are aware that even if they come up with the "killer app" there is a good chance that down the road Apple could hijack that idea for themselves, build the function into the Vision OS and then ban the killer app from the app store and say it duplicates an existing Vision Pro feature. If a developer wants to enter the mobile market they have no choice but to deal with Google and Apple but in the VR space Apple is not even a real player yet and may never be. Lets see what developer wants to put their success at the mercy of of a company with track record of squashing app store competitors by copying their product and then calling it a "duplicate".
I see , would you have a link to the source pls? Haven't been able to find anything
Unless our heads shrink, the tech will not be getting any smaller. If it is not pocketable, foldable, and reasonably priced, Apple's Vision Pro will only attract a select few, not the masses.
When Apple launched the Apple Watch, it had no clearly-defined function and focus. Instead, Apple threw a bunch of stuff against the wall and within a few years notifications and health tracking rose to the top and have been the focus of the device ever since - and it continues to grow in popularity with just those two functions.
Watching the Vision Pro presentation, I see something similar. Apple threw a bunch of things against the wall and over time will see what rises to the top and narrow their focus to those.*
* - Games would obviously be possible a core focus, but Apple does not have any pre-existing depth in VR gaming.
Watching the Vision Pro presentation, I see something similar. Apple threw a bunch of things against the wall and over time will see what rises to the top and narrow their focus to those.*
* - Games would obviously be possible a core focus, but Apple does not have any pre-existing depth in VR gaming.
To be fair, you can say that about any VR device that is designed to enclose your entire field of vision. Which is why so many are generally negative on the technology in general, regardless of OEM.
I would expect the future will be something like "AR glasses" for both eyes or an "AR monocle" for one eye that acts as a transparent Heads Up Display displaying information while still allowing normal viewing.
There are some problems with this. You may be right this thing can never work. But to be pocketable it still has to block out light to create the effect. Can a hood that is rigid and blocks out light be made to go in pockets. And that may be the showstopper and why the tech never catches on. But I cannot wait to try one.
The source for the 5000 nits peak brightness is this tweet by Ross Young, CEO of DSCC (Display Supply Chain Consultants):
An estimate of this translating to maybe 75 nits to the eye was made in the replies:
Sure but keep in mind that the Apple watch had a $349 option almost from the beginning and came at a time where people were already looking for fitness watches and bands. It was an easy sale because you could justify spending a couple of hundred on a toy even if you ended up not using it. Also, it extended your phone in a way that enabled you to keep your phone in your pocket or bag thus simplifying and de-cluttering your life. The Vision is going the opposite way by cluttering your life with cords, battery packs and eye covers. There is no real correlation to apples past successes and the Vision Pro.
100 Wh and almost certainly not because that would be far too heavy to put in your pocket.
It's not going to be a direct comparison to the Apple Watch, of course. There is the expectation that Apple will offer a cheaper iteration down the road and I think it makes more sense to do that then launch the Vision Pro alongside a "Vision Non-Pro" with plastics and other downgrades - the "iPhone 5C" version, so to speak. 