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Apple Still Hasn't Discussed the Vision Pro's Weight and Optional Top Head Strap

wikiverse said:
Will it come with a wi-fi snorkel antenna? That scene with the dad taking a video is creepy. Way more creepy than Google Glass ever was. Honestly, imagine that scenario in real life. Super weird. Just use your phone.

TBH this whole thing feels a bit like the Segway. Great, useful, and technologically advanced in theory, but in practice just clumsy, awkward and lame. If it was the size of a pair of glasses, then sure.

But strapping a snorkel mask to your head just to have a gimmicky way to do what you can already do on your phone or your macbook is kind of dorky and weird.

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spinedoc77 said:
The issue here is that for $3500 they still couldn't make it lighter than existing $299 headsets like the Quest 2, that doesn't bode well for the rumored consumer version. Although maybe the rumored consumer version uses more plastic, making it lighter, who knows. The best UI and OS in the world won't make a difference if you just want to rip it off your head after 30 minutes due to discomfort. I absolutely loved my Quest 2, but the reason I sold it (twice mind you) was exactly because of how uncomfortable it was. Comfort IS the killer app here, make these light and comfortable and you will see a much larger demand.
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To make another comparison, the weight of the Vision Pro is probably up a notch from the AirPods Max (385 g), which are already quite heavy for headphones, and in addition the Vision Pro's weight distribution will be quite front-heavy, not centered on your head. You'll probably want to take it off after an hour or so.
 
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nt5672 said:
I think we have to assume that the 2 hour battery life is NOT because Apple could not make the battery bigger, but rather that Apple realized that no one in their right mind would wear this thing for more than 2 hours.
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I think it's because they want the battery to fit into a pocket in your clothes.
 
This is a screen. It's a screen for one person only. It's a $3500 computer screen that no one else can use.

Also, in addition to the dorky snorkel mask, I can't wait to see a bunch of idiots grabbing and pinching the air in front of them like a bunch of crabs.

Can't wait for the Disney+/Little Mermaid release on this thing.
 
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wikiverse said:
Exactly. No one is using AR or VR headsets for general computing. VR headsets are for games, and even then, usually just gimmicky games like Beat Saber. Without a controller, most games won't port over to this easily because it's basically the Xbox Kinect controls but on your face. To ordinary people, this thing looks ridiculous, has no obvious reason for existing and costs as much as a macbook which can do all the same important practical functions.

3D televisions were also a thing and people bought them and used them. The Kinect existed.

Maybe if they can reduce the size to a normal pair of glasses and get the price under $1000, it will be something. But while it looks like a ridiculous snorkel mask, this will be a niche, over-priced product like the Segway or a 3D television. Sure, it might be the most advanced product in its category and a technical achievement, but it looks dorky and has not solved any of the actual issues like eye-strain or overheating when doing processor intensive tasks.

Apple might keep it around like the Mac Pro, but in its current form factor, this is super dorky and lame to the average person.
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Whats tim cooks legacy
 
matrix07 said:
It is 3D video while Glass was only 2D. iPhone doesn’t shoot 3D video.
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...yet.

I think that scene was awkward on purpose, after all that video is not so much to go buy it right now but to show what the device is capable of, and the creepiness helps to fix that image on our memories and discuss about it.
 
Don’t worry about the weight, Vision PRO will compensate by making your wallet the thinest and lightest ever in a human pocket.
 
"Optional headstrap" for only $600 more!

I just don't think this headset is for me...
 
Chazak said:
I appreciate your point and plead guilty, but still say with frequent use the weight will not be an issue. My point, which I communicated poorly, was, just like your lighter weight sunglasses, it is unlikely, if you are a regular user that it will bother you. The support system is very different than a pair of glasses. This system disperses the weight over a bigger surface area than the three points of contact that glasses do.
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Maybe, who knows. I just don't think comparing it to regular glasses makes a whole lot of sense because they are just light enough to forget that they are there and even then, personally for both my sunglasses and my prescriptions, I reach the point where they annoy me like crazy and I just want to take them off for a bit.

I assume that point will come a lot quicker with something 20x the weight.

Chazak said:
None of us, save for a few exceptions, have seen anything more than the WWDC videos. A chill pill would be in order for most of us.
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Agreed, but in both directions. I love technology and I'm opinionated, as are many others, but at this point saying it will be a massive success is just as baseless as saying it will definitely fail.

I do think the product as it is has some likely shortcomings and I don't see a good reason not to talk about them. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe the people who unequivocally love this thing are. Maybe we're all wrong.

Chazak said:
Don't you people want this to work? I was like wow, this actually could be the start of a new era in computing devices. I think it is quite exciting and can't wait to see how it develops over the next few years. They won't be an instant hit, but they are likely to become one. People are paying numbers not too far from this for all kinds of computing and entertainment devices. The average MacBook Pro sale has to come in at + 3000 and if you are in a business ion your own or someone else's, you are going to write it off.

I'm in. Maybe not the first iteration, but I am in.
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I'm definitely interested in the potential of both AR/VR in the long run, but to repeat myself from earlier I think this is the most polished version of a very immature product category.

In the interim, I'm actually more interested in foldable devices than this because I don't see AR/VR really taking off in the next couple of years. It'll be a slow burn until the tech gets small, light and cheap enough. I'm not going to drop this much money on a device on which I can't watch a movie with my wife.

Equally it's a warm, sunny and generally pleasant day today. The window in my office is open. I don not want to have ski goggles on my face for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week.
 
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pplfn said:
...yet.

I think that scene was awkward on purpose, after all that video is not so much to go buy it right now but to show what the device is capable of, and the creepiness helps to fix that image on our memories and discuss about it.
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If this goggle take off someone might actually sell dual-lens to shoot 3D video on iPhone for real.
 
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I'd consider it a possibility that  will ship Vision Pro with M3 and less weight.
 
Wasn’t one of the rumored use cases for this thing to be exercise? I haven’t heard anyone comment on whether what was announced is suitable for that or not.
 
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Want to simulate the weight? Here’s a step by step guide:

-Take your phone
-Take your friend or spouses phone
-Tape them together
-strap them to your head with duct tape
-put a cat on top of your head

-Now, do that for 2 hours let me know how your neck feels.
 
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MacRumors said:
In his opinion, with the additional strap attached, the Vision Pro is "not that far off from other headsets in terms of weight,"
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But doesn't this mean that the Apple headset is very heavy?

Other headsets are heavy. And the battery in the Apple headset is separate.

So if Apple's headset feels like other headsets even without the battery weight, then Apple's headset is very heavy.

Admittedly there is much more tech in Apple's headset, but we are talking about the weight regardless.
 
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nwcs said:
Wasn’t one of the rumored use cases for this thing to be exercise? I haven’t heard anyone comment on whether what was announced is suitable for that or not.
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Here's my nickel, less three pennies...I workout six days a week and I wouldn't strap anything to my face and head if you paid me.
 
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XboxEvolved said:
Want to simulate the weight? Here’s a step by step guide:

-Take your phone
-Take your friend or spouses phone
-Tape them together
-strap them to your head with duct tape
-put a cat on top of your head

-Now, do that for 2 hours let me know how your neck feels.
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Why would you put the cat on your head, to look fashionable doing it?
 
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d686546s said:
Maybe, who knows. I just don't think comparing it to regular glasses makes a whole lot of sense because they are just light enough to forget that they are there and even then, personally for both my sunglasses and my prescriptions, I reach the point where they annoy me like crazy and I just want to take them off for a bit.

I assume that point will come a lot quicker with something 20x the weight.



Agreed, but in both directions. I love technology and I'm opinionated, as are many others, but at this point saying it will be a massive success is just as baseless as saying it will definitely fail.

I do think the product as it is has some likely shortcomings and I don't see a good reason not to talk about them. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe the people who unequivocally love this thing are. Maybe we're all wrong.



I'm definitely interested in the potential of both AR/VR in the long run, but to repeat myself from earlier I think this is the most polished version of a very immature product category.

In the interim, I'm actually more interested in foldable devices than this because I don't see AR/VR really taking off in the next couple of years. It'll be a slow burn until the tech gets small, light and cheap enough. I'm not going to drop this much money on a device on which I can't watch a movie with my wife.

Equally it's a warm, sunny and generally pleasant day today. The window in my office is open. I don not want to have ski goggles on my face for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week.
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I appreciate your thoughtful reply.

Who said it would be "massive hit?" That wasn't me. And I owned my poor comparison to glasses in a reply to the first person who pointed out it didn't to have much validity.

My primary point, if you summarize my comments, was wait and see. People are speaking as if they know everything about the device and are experienced in its use. It will be three to five years until we know. I am not going to jump on the first round, but I am going to give it a chance when it has further development.

Like you, I project they will get smaller, light and have increased capabilities over time. The software needs huge amounts of development and Apple has to get developers to come on board. The potential is huge. Who knows how, much of it will come to fruition and how other companies will approach the same kind of devices. I do know/feel that existing entrants to this market are making devices aimed at different segments like gaming and do not seem to be aiming at general office, consumer and entertainment segments.

Apple has to start somewhere.
 
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