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I appreciate your thoughtful reply.

Who said it would be "massive hit?" That wasn't me. And I owned my poor comparison to glasses in a reply to the first person who pointed out it didn't to have much validity.

My primary point, if you summarize my comments, was wait and see. People are speaking as if they know everything about the device and are experienced in its use. It will be three to five years until we know. I am not going to jump on the first round, but I am going to give it a chance when it has further development.

Apologies if this seemed like a criticism of what you said, it was more a general reflection on the two camps that seem to have galvanised in some of the earlier threads after the announcement.

There one of the trends was "you nay-sayers have no clue because no one has been able to use this device properly. You're commenting without knowing anything. Anyway, here's all the reasons why it's a paradigm shift that will take over the market and make everything else obsolete." Which is equally premature.

This, I agree, was not your point and I shouldn't have addressed it to you.

Like you, I project they will get smaller, light and have increased capabilities over time. The software needs huge amounts of development and Apple has to get developers to come on board. The potential is huge. Who knows how, much of it will come to fruition and how other companies will approach the same kind of devices. I do know/feel that existing entrants to this market are making devices aimed at different segments like gaming and do not seem to be aiming at general office, consumer and entertainment segments.

Apple has to start somewhere.

I do agree with the above and I'm curious as to where the tech will be going. As a broader point, I do think that not everything that has potential eventually succeeds. There is a very real possibility that the technology gap is too massive for the moment to overcome and to create a product that people want to adopt. That's not a reflection on the potential of AR/VR per se, sometimes it's just the way it is.

I found the Verge's piece on Springboard very interesting in this regard, or even the Newton. Tech that was way ahead of its time and paved the way for something that now seems inevitable, but as products were massive flips because it was just impossible to put this into a form that people actually wanted to use (or could afford).

I thought the VisionOS demo was impressive, but to me this product feels like a Newton more than an iPhone. The use cases aren't yet quite there and (potentially) difficult to enjoy with the hardware that can actually be made at the moment. I agree they have to start somewhere though.
 
Imagine being at a birthday party or xmas, or just having a fun time at home and having your dad strap on his stupid looking snorkel mask and start leering at you with his creepy digital eyes peering out. I guess you can re-live that trauma over and over again in 3D video though.
Imagine your dad being obscured by a giant video camera which used to be very common. Covering the two eyes is different but I think we will adjust.

Kids will just be upset that they are not the ones using it. My kids will be taking videos of everything - probably 3D in slow motion. Storage going to fill up real fast.
 
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Will it come with a wi-fi snorkel antenna? That scene with the dad taking a video is creepy. Way more creepy than Google Glass ever was. Honestly, imagine that scenario in real life. Super weird. Just use your phone.

TBH this whole thing feels a bit like the Segway. Great, useful, and technologically advanced in theory, but in practice just clumsy, awkward and lame. If it was the size of a pair of glasses, then sure.

But strapping a snorkel mask to your head just to have a gimmicky way to do what you can already do on your phone or your macbook is kind of dorky and weird.

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I bet in a few generations the iPhone will be able to record 3d videos. No one will be taking video or pictures with these, they were just showing that it could playback 3d and there was a way to get 3d video.
 
What i wanna know is the brightness

There was a rumor of 4k display with 4000nits...was that true ?
5000 nits for just the panels, but that doesn’t take into account the pancake lenses and the duty cycle (the display is only on for 15% or so of each frame). There were estimates that the brightness reaching the eyes could be less than 100 nits.
 
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5000 nits for just the panels, but that doesn’t take into account the pancake lenses and the duty cycle (the display is only on for 15% or so of each frame). There were estimates that the brightness reaching the eyes could be less than 100 nits.
Now that makes more sense

Where does this 5k figure come from though?
 
I wouldn’t call it suspicious. They also never mentioned that it could pair to your AirPods, yet there’s a woman clearly wearing AirPods Pro on the airplane when watching a movie. That only shows up the one time. They talked about pairing with a keyboard, but not AirPods.
 
I imagine they are waiting to see what storage they can get for what price at the time of mass-production for the weight, and don’t think they will ever really talk about except “if you are using Vision Pro for extended periods of time, we’ve included an optional top-strap for added comfort” IF, and only IF their market research shows that they will include the strap with the device OR sell it separately.
 
No you look like a dork wearing it. Just like the Microsoft execs did when announcing HoloLens. This is most likely why no Apple exec was shown wearing one.

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I also look like a dork wearing underwear, a torn tshirt, and jamming with my AirPods… but I’m at home, alone, or with close family. No one cares what they look like while watching a movie or playing a game in their own home unless they stream on twitch.

Apple never suggested this was a “walk around town” product. At best, it was shown at an office - doing work. I agree this is far from being something most offices would have utility for, but “looks dorky” just doesn’t even register on my radar for this kind of tech - until it’s expected to be used in public.
 
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Check out the Apple Vision Pro battery pack. Seems like a lightweight to me. 4760mh battery pack.

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There’s a second strap?

Oy Vey…

From what I read the experience is incredible, but my goodness… it looks ridiculous.
Who cares what it looks like??? I'm buying it to enjoy, not to give you an excuse to ridicule people. But that is the nature of people today. More and more people today just can't help themselves when it comes to expressing their hate of so many things.
And what is the big deal of a top strap. If it makes it more comfortable, we should be praising it, not expressing hate over a strap. Do you realize how ridiculous that is?
 
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I wonder why they didn't put the battery (or part of the battery) in the strap. It counterbalances the front, which makes it *feel* less heavy even though it's more heavy. This is what Meta does, and while Meta sucks at a lot of things, this part works well. Hopefully they will allow both third party bands and chargers/batteries, because my ideal setup is a band that has a small battery to counterbalance the front weight. Then that battery can also plug in to a larger battery for long term use that goes in your pocket.
 
No you look like a dork wearing it. Just like the Microsoft execs did when announcing HoloLens. This is most likely why no Apple exec was shown wearing one.

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I mean you're not wrong, they do look dorky. But people don't care about that once they actually like the technology. You know what looks insanely dorky? People staring at their phone screens recording a video during a concert, or a whole train station full of people all walking around while staring at their phones. But yet millions of people do that all the time.
 
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I wonder why they didn't put the battery (or part of the battery) in the strap. It counterbalances the front, which makes it *feel* less heavy even though it's more heavy.

I expect Apple looked into such a configuration during development and chose not to proceed with it for reasons about it not meeting their expectations/requirements. One possible issue is that maybe it impeded how effectively the mesh headband conformed to the user's head. It might also have caused it's own comfort issues around the back of the head. Apple might also have not felt comfortable having such a large battery in close proximity to the user's head (especially if it runs warm as it discharges/charges).
 
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