i normally wear lenses, but even with my bare eyes i noticed all the glares
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Apple Vision Pro is amazing. And I returned it. (MERGED)
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i did'nt think it was, the movie visuals and audio was phenominal, but eveything else was alot more incremental than i thought it would be and the passthru mode was'nt even close as presented. if nothing else i dislike apples sales presentation of the device, showing a headstrap that was not optimal, a passthru mode that is not even close to reality
i just mailed mine back. i just couldnt get past the pass thru mode, small fov and glares
To me that is sort of the start and end of the interest on any headset
It has to start with being enjoyable to use... that's step one
I'm curious -- if just interested in the content viewing aspect of AVP
What price would you pay just for that?
Seal was a huge problem for me in my demo. It came in through the bottom around my nose. Nothing the specialist suggested adjusting helped, and he ultimately thought I might need a different light seal or light seal cushion.
This wasn't a massive deal in the brightly lit store while using passthrough, but as soon as I went environmental and watched immersive video, it was a total dealbreaker. On the bright side, they gave me the exact sizes I tried so I would know what not to get. Didn't notice any glare, though, despite it.
What is alarming is that there are slowly a number of posts/threads building up of buyers have problems with their VP, issues that others are also reporting they are having the same issue but yet not one of the reviewers of the VP has brought up. I Think only one reviewer brought up glare and FOV issues but that video was only released on the day the VP was officially released. A bit late for all those that had pre-ordered the VP.
It is an utter disgrace that issues being brought to light by VP owners were not reported on by the reviewers of the VP prior to it's official launch, issues which would have been present for the reviewers as well but they stayed silent about them.
It is an utter disgrace that issues being brought to light by VP owners were not reported on by the reviewers of the VP prior to it's official launch, issues which would have been present for the reviewers as well but they stayed silent about them.
I don’t think the point of VR is to be staring at the background, is it? That’s the real world we’re trying to get out of. I can look at the background just by taking OFF the VR.
Don’t you want the background to fade ‘into the background’?
The Verge review brought up glare and FOV issues.
Also important to note that all the reviews had multiple setup sessions with very hands-on Apple representatives to ensure the best fit. That’s not replicated by one quick iPhone face scan.
I can only justify it as they were in awe at the visuals or didn’t really spend more than a minute or so watching a movie. I didn’t notice glare the first time I watched a movie. It was when I spent more than 10 minutes trying to commit to it and now I cannot unsee it.
Apparently you’re not old enough to have purchased a day one Mac back in what was it,1984 or something? I did. $2500. One floppy, no hard drive. Want to copy files between2 floppies? 20 exchanges between the floppies in and out and in and out. Something like 128meg of ram. Almost no software. Sure we loved it but there was so much you could have complained about. If this forum was around at that time the 1st gen Mac would have been crushed by criticisms.
Relative to what else was out there in the computing landscape, it wouldn't have been "Crushed" at all
Context matters
AVP is literally doing some key things (like FOV and comfort) worse than a product 1/10th it's cost (Q3)
Yes, the original Mac was limited. But my question is, “Compared to what?” How many other personal computers in 1984 came with a Graphial User Interface and included free productivity and creativity software? Sure, the Lisa did, but that was four times more expensive at $10,000.
In 1984, Macintosh offered best-in-class ease of use for good value.
That's what I don't get either. Pass-through is fine for what you need it to do.
The expectations, especially based upon Apple marketing, were much higher for a $3500+ device
That's it right there. The irony that a cheaper device's lack of features has the side effect of reducing weight, which makes it superior in some ways. This sort of thing happens all the time, and is usually about weight.
an example (not really applicable here), I have things where I've paid a premium to reduce weight, and almost identical products that are much cheaper and lighter, and you would be hard-pressed to tell them apart.
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Hopefully Apple is smart enough to send a questionary to those who return their AVP.
Wonder how much they’ll be once they hit the refurbished store.
FWIW, The Verge’s review on Tuesday noted most of the issues, including glare and FOV, both in the video review and the written article.
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And everybody here was quick to call them haters instead of recognizing that first GEN products might have issues and just because it’s Apple. It won’t be perfect.
Apple’s ridiculous marketing is partly to blame here. The image they’re trying to project is just disingenuous. The sad thing is that in all likelihood it does benefit them economically overall, instead of hurting their public image.
Sort of my take too. That’s a reasonable price with the shortcomings and how I would use it. Remove that damn glare, and I would be willing to keep it.
I was thinking about this too -- By far my favorite part of using the AVP was the ability to watch content. It's phenomenal. I think $2,000 still feels high to me. It needs to be something that I can use and watch content *with someone else* which means I need two them. I'd argue as a result it really needs to be closer to $1500-$1750 to align with the equivalent of a moderately high end project (about $3,000 + extras).