Apple Vision Pro Owners: Keep or Return. And why?

[Roller]

We, as users, focus so much on launch products on those elements that are not perfect or fully refined. The totality of the product for my experience is amazing and worth the price of entry. Those parts that are still amazing, such as cinema mode 3D movies, but not fully refined lend to the question of return of the product, as is the discussion of this thread. The AVP may be a "dud" for you when and if you experience it because of these shortcomings. I only suggest in my postings that you not allow the strong opinions both in favor and against to sway you in your decision if you choose to experience or purchase one. This is a very personal and potentially polarizing product.

I had a mouse package on my IIgs. It allowed GUI but was clunky, unpredictable and not very useful, but I tolerated it because it was amazing and like nothing else on the market. Even the Mac 128 was a bit of a challenge but look where it took us.

Like you, I go way back with Apple products, starting with the Apple II+. I can't think of any that were perfect on day 1, though some were close. It's both annoying and amusing how people come to this and related threads to opine that the AVP is a dud and will be canceled, as if to let those of us who are actually satisfied know they have insights we don't.

I'm well aware of the AVP's current shortcomings, but it' still worth it to me for what I'm getting out of it, and I expect that to improve as more content and apps become available. Unlike the cognoscenti who are certain the AVP has already failed or will fail, I honestly don't know. And neither do they.

If you're considering an AVP or are just curious, I encourage you to try one and decide for yourself. (The demo experience is usually too short to tell, so give it at least a week.)

 

[Stickman251]

Like you, I go way back with Apple products, starting with the Apple II+. I can't think of any that were perfect on day 1, though some were close. It's both annoying and amusing how people come to this and related threads to opine that the AVP is a dud and will be canceled, as if to let those of us who are actually satisfied know they have insights we don't.

I'm well aware of the AVP's current shortcomings, but it' still worth it to me for what I'm getting out of it, and I expect that to improve as more content and apps become available. Unlike the cognoscenti who are certain the AVP has already failed or will fail, I honestly don't know. And neither do they.

If you're considering an AVP or are just curious, I encourage you to try one and decide for yourself. (The demo experience is usually too short to tell, so give it at least a week.)

Many a day after school playing Wizardry and Choplifter on my neighbor friend's II+. Good times.

Echo all the above. It took me 5 days really to feel out this device. My wife demanded her own after 2 days and we went and picked hers up Friday. We are keeping both and use them both at work and home.

I rarely post on boards anymore because of the noise of those who have absolute knowledge and judgement typically with no experience with the product in question.

 

[subjonas]

Introducing the avp 2.0. Our most tolerable goggles yet. We think you’re gonna love to tolerate it.

But to be fair, pretty much everything has to be tolerated to some degree. It’s just that the function it gives them has to outweigh it. And that equation will look different from person to person. Many people tolerate huge phablets because of the larger screen, bigger battery, etc. Other people can’t stand them.

But it might be especially true for wearables in general because you have to wear them usually for extended periods. Many people tolerate wearing AirPods Max because of the better sound quality. Others find them too uncomfortable. I personally find wearing watches annoying, but I tolerate wearing an Apple Watch because I need the haptic alerts, and overall I’m very happy with it. But when I get home I love taking it off. Doesn’t mean it’s a bad product—it just comes with the territory.

BTW, not only does tolerance differ from person to person, but also moment to moment. Sometimes depending on what we’re doing we can forget we’re wearing/holding/using a product, and in that moment we aren’t even tolerating it at all. Other times, it’s a drag.

Yes of course, the VP has a higher tolerance requirement than probably all other Apple products. And not everyone values the function it gives them enough to outweigh the trade off. But for those it does, they are overall happy to tolerate it, just like all our other devices.

 

[kalieaire]

Both problems solved if you use Lightroom.

ok, can you post the workflow?

 

[HDFan]

ok, can you post the workflow?

A bit more complex than just using Photos but it works.

1. Import the Photos into Lightroom, into an existing, new, or "Camera Roll" named folder

2. Create a collection with the photos you want. Check "Sync with Lightroom"



3. The photos will show up on the VP Lightroom App as an album whose photos can be edited

 

[FireFish]

So I tried returning my Apple Vision Pros to my local Apple Store and they claim that they cannot take it back because I began returning it and printing a Fedex label from the Apple.com store. Is that true? They say because I did that, I can only return it by mailing it back.

 

[bluedoggiant]

So I tried returning my Apple Vision Pros to my local Apple Store and they claim that they cannot take it back because I began returning it and printing a Fedex label from the Apple.com store. Is that true? They say because I did that, I can only return it by mailing it back.

I am curious about this. Did you have a chat with customer service? Curious if once you select to mail it back, if you can change your mind and bring to store.

 

[kalieaire]

A bit more complex than just using Photos but it works.

1. Import the Photos into Lightroom, into an existing, new, or "Camera Roll" named folder

2. Create a collection with the photos you want. Check "Sync with Lightroom"

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3. The photos will show up on the VP Lightroom App as an album whose photos can be edited

So you're saying I have to pay for Lightroom in lieu of iCloud?

 

[FireFish]

I am curious about this. Did you have a chat with customer service? Curious if once you select to mail it back, if you can change your mind and bring to store.

I was finally able to generate a Fedex label and yes, I returned it.

 

[FireFish]

Has anyone here actually been 'on-the-fence' about returning their Apple Vision Pro unit, and missed the return window because of it? Just wondering,..

 

[HDFan]

So you're saying I have to pay for Lightroom in lieu of iCloud?

Your choice. Pick your pain. iCloud is a remote storage solution. Lightroom, depending on the version you choose, is primarily a photo editing/organizing app and secondarily a cloud storage solution.

 

[MockT]

Has anyone here actually been 'on-the-fence' about returning their Apple Vision Pro unit, and missed the return window because of it? Just wondering,..

Yes, there are people out there who realized they should have returned it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1aydldq

 

[FlyGuyDEN]

I am absolutely keeping mine. I picked it up this past Saturday and it is a stunning interface that that changes what computing is. Can't wait for WWDC and to see what visionOS 2.0 brings.

 

[Jony Ive]

I am absolutely keeping mine. I picked it up this past Saturday and it is a stunning interface that that changes what computing is. Can't wait for WWDC and to see what visionOS 2.0 brings.

The novelty wears off

 

[FlyGuyDEN]

The novelty wears off

Not for me!

 

[fatTribble]

I am absolutely keeping mine. I picked it up this past Saturday and it is a stunning interface that that changes what computing is. Can't wait for WWDC and to see what visionOS 2.0 brings.

I’m probably using mine more now than when I first got it. Beyond the use cases that prompted me to buy one, there are now many new apps and games that didn’t exist at launch. I’m very impressed with the new Marvel app!

 

[contacos]

Got my Apple Vision Pro in Germany today from Apple as a developer in a big ass black suitcase.

Not gonna lie, as someone already with VR experience (Quest 3) I am actually not as impressed as I thought I would be.

The immersive video with the dinosaur was cute for a second, the eye tracking makes my eyes tired and there is actually a lot of flickering going on when I looked at my iPhone. When I looked at my digital clock on the wall through the AVP for example, the digits were moving like on a bad trip.

I also can’t believe how easily the cushion falls off when you don’t hold it the right way. Seems like a design fail (to me).

It’s also annoying that you need to do the eye tracking intro each time you give it to a guest and using the control center is also a bad design. When I used the Disney app I just couldn’t get it to appear?

Pass through certainly didn’t seem 5 times better than on Quest 3 for 500$ which actually shocked me! It is better but not omg it’s amazing.

Just my first quick impression. It’s not bad but thought it would wow me more at that price point (thankfully I didn’t have to pay for it)

Watching Disney stuff looked great though!

 

[FireFish]

The novelty wears off

100%. Everyone in my household (my wife & two kids) were burned out after using and abusing it for the two weeks. It was a no-brainer at that point to return it for my $3,600 back.

 

[Roller]

100%. Everyone in my household (my wife & two kids) were burned out after using and abusing it for the two weeks. It was a no-brainer at that point to return it for my $3,600 back.

I'd return it too if I had to share it with three people using Guest Mode or resets, especially during the 14-day return period.

 

[FireFish]

I'd return it too if I had to share it with three people using Guest Mode or resets, especially during the 14-day return period.

You know that the second or third generation will be out in 1-2 years and won’t sprain your neck

 

[Roller]

You know that the second or third generation will be out in 1-2 years and won’t sprain your neck

Truthfully, I don't know what Apple will do and neither do you, though I'd be surprised to see two more versions in just a couple years.

Neck sprains are soft tissue injuries that are usually caused by sudden movement. Although some people find the current AVP too heavy for comfortable use (I don't, but everyone is different), it doesn't cause neck sprain.

 

[FireFish]

Truthfully, I don't know what Apple will do and neither do you, though I'd be surprised to see two more versions in just a couple years.

Neck sprains are soft tissue injuries that are usually caused by sudden movement. Although some people find the current AVP too heavy for comfortable use (I don't, but everyone is different), it doesn't cause neck sprain.

I can guarantee that Apple will do all of the following:

1. Release a newer generation of the Apple Vision Pro
2. Make physical improvements to this newer generation of the Apple Vision Pro, including but not limited to condensing its size and weight and reducing the physical size of the battery pack.
3. Improve sensor capabilities in the newer generation.

No, I'm no psychic. I'm just an Apple avid fanatic who can read the tea leaves.

 

[Roller]

I can guarantee that Apple will do all of the following:

1. Release a newer generation of the Apple Vision Pro
2. Make physical improvements to this newer generation of the Apple Vision Pro, including but not limited to condensing its size and weight and reducing the physical size of the battery pack.
3. Improve sensor capabilities in the newer generation.

No, I'm no psychic. I'm just an Apple avid fanatic who can read the tea leaves.

And I can guarantee Apple will release an updated iPhone with an improved camera system and faster processor in 2025.

However, you predicted that updated 2nd or 3rd generation AVPs would be out in 1-2 years. I happen not to agree with this, much as I'd like it to happen. But I'm no more certain than you are. I've been using Apple products for more than 40 years and have other experience that provides insight into what the company might do, but I have no specific knowledge of their plans and wouldn't share it here even if I did.

 

[RigSatMe]

I had a chance to demo it. Screen resolution is low so far. I can see pixel in video. So gonna wait for the next release.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

I had a chance to demo it. Screen resolution is low so far. I can see pixel in video. So gonna wait for the next release.

You can see pixels in a video?
What kind of video did you watch?
The pass through may show artifacts if there’s poor lighting. That has nothing to do with resolution, and it would happen with any device that has pass through.