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No they're not. They aren't being asked to provide anything for free. They are being forced to open their platform. They can still charge whatever they want in their App Store. They can still charge developer fees and licenses for developers whether those developers publish in the Apple App Store or a third party app store. This is no different from how things work on every other computing platform...macOS, Windows, Linux, Android, etc.
 
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It’s not a fantasy, capitalism is about open competition. That therefore also means there should be laws regulating anticompetitive behavior by dominant companies that can potentially stifle competition or innovation.
It is not. Competition is about winning. Being the last standing. Regulation is the antithesis of it. Which is why capitalists rail against it. This isn’t about competition either, it’s exactly what I described. A way for the biggest to cut overhead and make more profit. While the littlest will bear the burden of higher costs, and squeezed out.
 
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Can you guys type slower? I can’t read as fast while I’m eating popcorn 🤭
 
Well there's Hello Fresh the food delivery service which is a German company

There's also one of the biggest video game publishers in the world Ubisoft, which is a French company

A lot of prominent mobile game developers like Supercell and King are from Finland and Sweden

Mojang is Swedish...you know...the people who made Minecraft the biggest video game in the world

You know ShaZam? The music recognition software that Apple bought almost a decade ago? Guess what, they're from the UK (though the UK left the EU so I guess that doesn't count lol)

Spotify is a Swedish company

Arm, the chip design firm responsible for the architecture used in Apple Silicon in our Macs and iPhones, as well as every ARM chip on the planet? Yeah, that's a UK company

So can we stop this myth that "oh Europe has no tech company that can compete against American tech companies" when the bulk of our software and services we use on a daily basis are from European companies?
Your comments prove my point. Hello Fresh and Spotify? And Clash of Clans? Are you ******* kidding me?
 
First of all, its UK. Not EU

Second, the total market cap is going to be well below $10 billion. Trying to put that on the same table as the top 50 US tech companies is a joke
It was created when the UK was EU.

So what you’re actually saying is it’s not about innovation, it’s about money? And in the US a company that won’t allow the customer to put what they like on their kit so that the company can make more money is classed as a freedom?
 
Is that an excuse to let big companies demolish your rights? Sounds anti-democracy to my ears.
“Demolish your rights”. Give me a break. Think back of the last 10 years and all the innovations these “bad technology companies” brought to market

Go try living in communist Russia
 
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So you’re ignoring ARM because that’s inconvenient?

Lol. First off, its UK. Second, it controls nothing. Qualcomm is better positioned in the microprocessor space than ARM

Third, it did, per its S1 IPO filing, less than $3 billion in ANNUAL revenues. Less than $3 billion!!! Are you freaking kidding me?!

Try harder
 
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First of all, its UK. Not EU

Second, the total market cap is going to be well below $10 billion. Trying to put that on the same table as the top 50 US tech companies is a joke

Advertising-funded tech companies are overvalued and overpriced. All of them. No exceptions.

It's embarrassing what is considered a high-value tech company here. Apple is an exception.
 
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“Demolish your rights”. Give me a break. Think back of the last 10 years and all the innovations these “bad technology companies” brought to market

Go try living in communist Russia
Who says they are “bad” companies? They are just being asked to open the platform. To employ a badly described analogy used earlier, it’s like having a house built then being forced to buy all your electricity from the builder.
 
First of all, its UK. Not EU

Second, the total market cap is going to be well below $10 billion. Trying to put that on the same table as the top 50 US tech companies is a joke
I'm sure we could find industries where the Europeans are more successful, financially-speaking. Financial success isn't the only metric that matters. Without ARM, there would be no Apple Silicone.

Reducing everything to money and "winning" is why the world is falling apart, why we're headed for climate collapse in the next decades, and why kids today will have a significantly worse quality of life than their parents.
 
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Your comments prove my point. Hello Fresh and Spotify? And Clash of Clans? Are you ******* kidding me?

Spotify is the most popular music streaming service on the planet. So no I'm not ******* kidding you. People don't realize how much of their software was made by European companies, they only want to focus on the Big Tech Big Five.
 
Or, when third party app stores are allowed, you could just keep downloading from the Apple App Store and not worry about anything. Your argument is a total logical fail and an attempt to spread FUD. Third party app stores and "dodgy websites" have absolutely no effect on your device's security if you don't use them. Wow, imagine that!
The EU does not require developers to release apps on the App Store. So it is possible for apps that someone uses regularly today to require use of a 3rd party app store in the future.
 
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So not a single EU company qualified as a gatekeeper? Weird coincidence.
Google has a presence in the EU and has fallen foul of the Commission numerous times plus EU companies generally understand the competition laws
 
Who says they are “bad” companies? They are just being asked to open the platform. To employ a badly described analogy used earlier, it’s like having a house built then being forced to buy all your electricity from the builder.
Build your own power plant and electric grid
 
Build your own power plant and electric grid
I’m assuming that makes sense to you. Why would I not use the existing grid and power plants plus buy my electricity from a 3rd party company who buys in bulk from the producer?
 
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