And you know this because . . . . ?
PS3 is way better and I sold my ATV when I bought my PS3
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AppleTV Shortage?
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And you know this because . . . . ?
PS3 is way better and I sold my ATV when I bought my PS3
Maybe
So if they discontinue AppleTV, is this Apple's plan to "upsell" people to a Mini? 
That'll work in today's economy...
That'll work in today's economy...
So if they discontinue AppleTV, is this Apple's plan to "upsell" people to a Mini?
That'll work in today's economy...
I know 10 people who connect their computers (laptops, PCs, Macs) to their TVs for videos/pictures/internet for every 1 person I know with an ATV
It's not going away for three reasons:
1. Apple discussed at WWDC its primary goal for Snow Leopard was to unify the Mac, iPhone, iPod and Apple TV platforms.
2. Apple TV is Apple's only living room device.
3. Apple TV's sales were up 300 percent in Q1 '09 over Q1 '08 without a price drop or major software upgrade.
Additionally, Snow Leopard includes two new features for Apple TV owners, a new export/sharing wizard in QuickTime X and the ability for your AirPort or Time Capsule to wake your Mac up to sync with Apple TV. So, Apple is still building out O/S features to be used in conjunction with the Apple TV.
And Tim Cook has said repeatedly that while the Apple TV remains a hobby they would continue to invest in it.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...s_rise_300_will_see_continued_investment.html
Finally someone who knows what they're talking about. There is no way Apple is going to just drop AppleTV. It's an integral part of iTunes/iPod/Mac ecosystem, and a key venue for Apple to sell & rent more ITMS content. Apple is not going to just concede the living room to Microsoft Media Center.. not a chance.
I also don't understand why every other thread here needs to have someone bringing up PS3 and how it's superior to ATV. If your PS3 blows ATV out of the water and it's sitting unused - why do you ever bother reading this forum?
I think the Apple TV and PS3 are priced similarly now, and that's why it keeps getting brought up. I own both and don't get it either.
The PS3 has practically no interface for viewing media. It doesn't support folders, AAC/MPEG-4 tags, metadata or artwork, etc. There's no music store, podcast support, YouTube or Flickr integration either. In fact, there's no PSN movie/TV show store in any other region except the United States. I believe some parts of Europe are getting a movie-only store soon.
If you like browsing all your media via a clunky, directory-like interface by all means use it. Media playback was clearly an after thought.
The only major advantage the PS3 has over the Apple TV is the fact that it doubles as Blu-ray player and game console and supports additional codecs (DivX and WMV).
I'm with you. The people with ATV's sitting unused should send them to me, I'll use them.
LOL.. couldn't have said it better. I also used to have PS3 (sold it right before Sony price drop, thank god!), and never understood how anyone could put up with it as a media extender. I only used my PS3 for Blu-ray playback. I now replaced it with Samsung BD-P1600 player (also streams NetFlix and Pandora) - much better BD player than PS3.
It takes all of 15 minutes to run ATV patchstick and install Perian.. and bingo - ATV will play DivX/XviD/MKV and just about anything else. Clearly people who bash ATV don't even take the time to learn and understand all its capabilities.
AppleTV needs an upgrade big time.
I just want 4 things:
faster processor
support for external drives, so unlimited storage
different codec support
1080p
I hope Apple is really doing something about this issues above.
I just want 4 things:
faster processor
support for external drives, so unlimited storage
different codec support
1080p
I hope Apple is really doing something about this issues above.
All I know is IF they have a new Atv and if it lacks certain codec support I just hope it is easily hacked. If it plays my .MKV's out of the box I will be happy.
I won't hold my breath though.
I won't hold my breath though.
Because it comes up when you press the New Posts button, and its entirely relevant as I do own an Apple TV, and was the biggest supporter of the device for the longest time.
If you buy your TV shows and movies then the ATV is a good choice. But the fact is that converting all of my downloaded content to media that the Apple TV can play is a tiring task. The PS3 may have folders, but WHO CARES? Anyone who has the smallest bit of organizational skills can put their content into folders. For example I have a external drive that has folders "TV Shows -> The Simpsons -> Season 1", etc. How is that at all hard to browse through? That is easy as pie. I don't need stupid thumbnails to see my content, its titled as exactly what it is. And I have the nice PS3 remote instead of the garbage one Apple gives us.
Its funny you say the only major advantage the PS3 has over the ATV is blu-ray and codecs. Thats a HUGE FREAKING ADVANTAGE. How about the fact that it is also a gaming console? And playing blu-ray is a major plus for HD-TV owners. Oh, and codec support is amazing also. Thats the thing I hated the MOST about the ATV was spending countless hours converting shows and tying up my computer. So long to that. So long to the Apple TV NOT having folders and instead dumping hundreds of shows into a giant folder called "TV Shows" requiring me to spend a load of time scrolling vertically through the list to find the show I want. The PS3 blows the ATV out of the water in every aspect besides paying for shows via iTunes. Sorry, but thats the truth.
I would have an ATV aswell as my PS3 if I could just point it too the HDD of movies instead of having to put them all into iTunes... That is the only reason I use the PS3. Does the ATV now output true HD or does it still only output 720p which needs upscaling?(been out of this section for a year) I want to use the PS3 only for bluray and leave it powered off instead of on standby, as it isnt the most power efficient thing out there. The other option is a new slimline PS3...
Well, maybe you should have invested a few of those "countless hours" researching the possibilities of what ATV is capable of. Install Perian, and all of a sudden ATV can play all those codecs your beloved PS3 can and more. I have all sorts of content (DVD/BD rips, torrent downloads, EyeTV recordings), and I never have to transcode anything to play on ATV.
Ever heard of metadata tags? Since v2.2, ATV can group the TV shows by title/season/episode. As long as you have everything properly tagged. Which in my opinion is the proper way to organize your content, rather than relying on folders. But if you insist on folder structure, there is a great add-on called ATV Files. No iTunes needed.
It's certainly NOT the truth - just your opinion. Which you're certainly entitled to.. However, the title of this thread is "Apple TV Shortage", not "PS3 versus Apple TV". So your trying to convince everyone of PS3 merits is a bit irrelevant to the whole discussion.
I won't be disappointed I am happy with the current version. I mainly wanted it for playing all my music stored in itunes to my home theater set up, which its doing beautifully. I don't think I would be renting movies from the itunes store as I can do that cheaper through my cable box in HD.
Oh, you mean hack the device to add that functionality? Yeah, thats a lovely device that you need to modify it to make things work properly.
And sorry, but when you have 1000's of episodes of shows and movies you are not going to go through and tag each one. No way.
Keep saying the ATV > than the PS3 all you want. Cost per feature, ATV loses every time. And as I said I loved my ATV until I got a PS3 recently and realized how much the ATV actually sucked. You just haven't been enlightened yet.
And most people know me here as the person who defends Apple about everything, so this is not the norm of my feelings towards Apple stuff, but the current ATV and its crappy remote as well as lack of codecs without a 3rd party hack is a total dud.
I love my Apple TV, i don't know why people complain so much about it....
no 1080? big deal... unless you want to see every blackhead on people's faces.
for that you can have a PS3 with BluRay
I bought my apple TV for convenience and the fact that I can also sync it with my mac and my iphone
no 1080? big deal... unless you want to see every blackhead on people's faces.
for that you can have a PS3 with BluRay
I bought my apple TV for convenience and the fact that I can also sync it with my mac and my iphone
I currently have 2082 TV shows episodes and 245 movies in my iTunes library; all tagged correctly. It's not that hard.
All this while my PS3 hasn't been turned on since I beat MGS4 many months ago.
love appleTV
TV is great. I'm hoping for an update that allows streaming of live content, and opening up the USB port to connect an external hard drive that allows for easy expandability of storage.
There is no way it is being discontinued.
TV is great. I'm hoping for an update that allows streaming of live content, and opening up the USB port to connect an external hard drive that allows for easy expandability of storage. There is no way it is being discontinued.
I said that in the exact post you quoted. Nothing you mentioned hasn't been brought up and debated over and over in the Apple TV vs. PS3 threads.
Anyway, back on topic ...
You haven't missed anything since the Apple TV hasn't been updated in the last year anyway. What's "true HD"? 1080p? Yes, the Apple TV can output 1080p. However, it won't play back 1080p files at all or 720p files that have over 25 FPS.
The complaining is mostly the files it doesn't play and the 1080p thing.
The thing is who is going to spend the time in encoding blue ray 1080p to a file that the appletv will play?
If they are talking about 1080p from itunes thats a different story, but how long is it going to take downloading a 1080p file and what kind of quailty is it going to be.
My two biggest complaints are the following:
(1) Navigation Speed - the Apple TV is FAR TOO SLOW. Can be fixed with a decent processor.
(2) 1080P - Now that Blu-Ray Ripping is coming to OS-X with MakeMKV, I plan to jump into that realm as I have done with DVD's via Handbrake, but I really don't want to rip everything to 720p only to have to then rip it to 1080p once the hardware allows. Once is enough.
Two most wanted features:
(1) DVR
(2) App Store
(1) Navigation Speed - the Apple TV is FAR TOO SLOW. Can be fixed with a decent processor.
(2) 1080P - Now that Blu-Ray Ripping is coming to OS-X with MakeMKV, I plan to jump into that realm as I have done with DVD's via Handbrake, but I really don't want to rip everything to 720p only to have to then rip it to 1080p once the hardware allows. Once is enough.
Two most wanted features:
(1) DVR
(2) App Store
Maybe you're not going to, but please don't generalize; there are a lot of us who do so that we can reap the benefits. Besides, there are tools out there that automate much of the process.
Add to that:
-Netflix support
-Hulu Support
-DVR capibiiities with a guide (maybe integrated service with MMe)
-Better Remote than just the crappy little Mac one.
-Blu Ray player (ripper??) or at least a DVD player
-Services like PLEX. I like how you can get internet plug ins to get content from different websites all in one interface.
Apple needs to get away from iTunes only content to be relevant to most people. No one I know rents movies from iTunes when they can go to a red box and rent for a quarter the price. Or rent from Netflix and have unlimited DVDs for the monthly fee.
Its a wish list but i dont think most, if any of it, will happen. But hopefully an update at lease or else I will be trying to set up a mac mini media center set up around xmas