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Arctic Fox web browser for 10.6 (32 & 64-bit)

There is an unofficial port for ppc 10.4/10.5 here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/so-this-finally-happened-sort-of.2172031/ but be advised it's very much experimental and not 100% functional. Be sure to follow the instructions in the readme in the archive. Yeah GDrive works, but slowly. I fear anything not "Chrome" will have a harder time with google sites in the near future.

Cheers
 
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thanks, it is a good reponsive browser!

still, on a macmini g4 with leopard one could need a slimmer browser. camino would be best, but unfortunatley with https:// it is a no-go ...
gonna try arctic fox with tiger osx, should be really fast on powermac.
 
Back to sites that only give you a blank page, as discussed here, here and (with a solution) here. I ran today into an article on a news site that regardless of the user agent wouldn't load at all, yet loads fine in Chromium old version, and this other one: as with the sites discussed earlier, it only loads when the user agent is set to AF's default. The reason I'm coming back to this is a. because it really doesn't happen often at all (first time in over three weeks), and b. because I wonder how those sites detect that the UA is only a mask and why they respond in this manner.

Then this second article has triggered a bit of thinking here, less because of what it says about the limitations of Incognito mode, which I suppose most of us here are aware of, than because of what it calls “compartmentalization”. I'm already having to "compartmentalize" quite often, although by no means as systematically as the author suggests, like when I'm having to use a browser that deals with captchas faster than AF. Still, it's a hassle, it certainly slows down the flow (as in workflow), for instance when you have to think which keyboard shortcuts to use when shifting browser (or when you use the wrong ones out of habit.)

But what about if we had exact clones of ArcticFox (call them BabyFox, GrandmaFox, FoxyFox, whatever) running side by side, each one with its own Application Support directory and profiles? You could even have different UAs set for each one, and specific bookmarks (in the Mac's GUI of course) set to open in a designated clone. Now, I'm not a developer, so I have no idea how realistic this is. The last thing we want is to have you die of stress, wicknix — what would we do without you ;) ?
 
wicknix said:
@RobJos that'd be a lot of work. Lol. I can help a little if you're interested. Grab my last build of Pale moon 27. It hasn't been updated since July 2018, but you can run it side by side with AF. It will look and feel the same, just a bit older, but not nearly as old as FF for 10.6.
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=19694&sid=50978be013297a3e8103898eb725f3f5
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Hey, but that's... NewMoon! — would you believe that I had started using it shortly before I discovered AF? Now — <gulp> promise you won't kill me? </gulp> — is it OK to import my existing AF profile by copying it? Which would be the whole point, not to have to spend time setting up different browsers more than necessary.

While we're here together at these times of day, is there a reason this browser fingerprint test page goes on churning forever in AF? Maybe we're so “unique” that there aren't enough subdecimals? Works as it should (again again) in Chromium.
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z970mp said:
Is that so?
I personally sympathize with AF.
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How about reversing it, as in: AF & Moons being a thorn in Gg's side? Like the maybe proverbial bees driving the maybe proverbial elephant off the cliff, as long as they don't land where aforesaid elephant is stomping about?

Btw., hot off the press: Google has sabotaged Firefox for years. Helps understand why so many sites that don't work properly in FX & Forks, or captcha you off to the madhouse, almost always work in Chrome, or in my case Chromium or Epic (which I got to use because of the hassles with YouTube discussed in that article.)
 
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Yeah newmoon/palemoon 27 is backwards/forwards compatible with AF. So import away. :)

As for fingerprinting in AF it's blocked by default. Just an extra security measure I enabled since we are using AF on not so secure older os's.

Cheers.
 
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Btw., hot off the press: Google has sabotaged Firefox for years. Helps understand why so many sites that don't work properly in FX & Forks, or captcha you off to the madhouse, almost always work in Chrome, or in my case Chromium or Epic (which I got to use because of the hassles with YouTube discussed in that article.)
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Google has sabotaged the Internet for years.

They've got this search engine, browser, mail service, photo service, office suite, mapping service, monopolistic video site, desktop operating system, mobile operating system, smartphone line, and most importantly, advertising business.

Not even to say of their newest efforts on their quest for Blink to have world domination. Let's look at our options here... We've got Quantum, Goanna, WebKit, (used to have) Gecko, (used to have) Presto, and of course, Blink.

One browser uses Quantum. Once browser uses Goanna. Several use WebKit, and few, if any, browsers use Gecko or Presto anymore. But we've got a surplus of browsers on Blink. Even Brave, which was built to save the world, is basically Chrome with adblocking.

I can't find any major browser that isn't basically Chrome.
 
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wicknix said:
@oldairman : No solution that i'm aware of. It seems this was a lingering issue with the pre-australis UI. It works properly for some, and doesn't work for others, and didn't get fixed until FF switched to the ugly less customizable australis interface.
It works properly for me however. See attached.
View attachment 827826

@xeno74 : Thanks for the alternate builds. :)

@WinterClaws : Easy fix. In about:config change "browser.showQuitWarning" from false to true.

@z970mp : nMatrix is a PM specific fork of uMatrix. Just an FYI. ;)

Cheers
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[doublepost=1555550552][/doublepost]While there doesn't appear to be solution... I believe I encountered this same problem years ago while running Debian on this same G5 Mac... solved then by a subsequent FF update. Bookmarks menu 1.92 from "Legacy Firefox Extensions" offers a quasi solution. It installed with an icon on the Navigation Toolbar below History on the Menu Bar... with a drop down menu similar to what I expected and access to the Toolbar Menu with folders. Perfection no... but no reason to use the Sidebar anymore.

Cheers,

and many thanks.
 
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1. Install the libc6 package and its dependencies from the Jessie repositories.

2. Download and copy over 'libatomic.so.1' offered next to the AF for 14/12/10.04 within the contributed builds link

3. Badabing-badaboom.

(Posted from above machine in featured browser.)
 
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A first, as of today: unusual CPU hogging. Reminded me <horrors> of Firefox in the bad old days of version-based memory leaks. Except that System Memory usage wasn't abnormal at all.

As per the Activity Monitor: instead of the usual ≈ 5% to 120% (when loading pages), AF was stuck using over 200% of CPU even while it wasn't active during a couple of hours. As I had another app running that was also (quite normal in this case) ≈ 200% AF's the performance slowdown became quite noticeable.

According to about:addons-memory extension Adblock Latitude was at 6,5%, AF itself at 5.7%, and the rest insignificant values for a total of 14.3%. Cache was filled, at the default max. of 350Mb, and deleting it didn't change anything. There hadn't been anything usual in my browsing activity (new sites, scripts etc.)

Closing AF down caused it at first to become "not responding" for a minute or two, upon which it simply decided to crash. Relaunched it, at this moment things are back to normal.

Any idea what I should look for if this situation reproduces itself?

[Edited 20.04.2019] Almost same thing happened again this evening: 170-220% CPU, slowdown, crash upon quitting. Upon relaunching I noticed that the cache was again filled up to 350Mb, which is a hell of a lot for a single day's normal uneventful browsing.
 
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Thank you for the 32-bit OS X version of ArcticFox 27.9.16. It works very smoothly on OS X 10.6.8.

I was wondering. Is there a YouTube video downloader for ArcticFox?

Thanks.
 
To download from youtube I suggest an universal method.

Just add pwn between www and youtube.com
If your video url is www.youtube.com/xxxxxx => www.pwnyoutube.com/xxxxxx

No need anything else that your browser.

Then you have different choices for video quality, sound, etc. I use that often, I can even download subtitles.

Enjoy
 
madbiker31 said:
To download from youtube (...)
Just add pwn between www and youtube.com
If your video url is www.youtube.com/xxxxxx => www.pwnyoutube.com/xxxxxx
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I had to give it a try, an old habit from Firefox: you never knew when a video downloader was going to walk out on you, and I always used to like having a “collection” of them at hand.

With this audio/video I tried 4 out of the 5 options on the deturl.com page that came after adding "pwn", and got one 404, one "no movie/no audio file found", one that wanted me to register + download app + subscribe + cookies and the whole bit, and one that finally let me download a very minimal 103Mb 360p mp4. Sorry, but it just doesn't compare with SaveClipBro's (Greasemonkey + YouTube Multi Downloader) conversion options:
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SaveClipBro.jpg

It took a while, but the HD default gave a 644Mb file, which would be plenty and enough for a movie (I wasn't aware that this particular video is not a real movie, but that's irrelevant). I've been using this downloader daily and it's only very occasionally that it has come with a message that it couldn't do the job (possibly some very large and/or protected movies.) The only other limitation I've encountered so far has been its inability to download a TED talk.

While on the subject of TED, this is for wicknix: a TED talk embedded in another site played right away, whereas opening it from there in TED's own website resulted in AF freezing — first occurrence! — for about a minute before playback began.
 
The video link you gave is a 240p quality, to get a full HD version it's odd. Even with a conversion I've some doubt.

The method I showed allows to get the same quality displayed with the original link. When it's 720p or 1080p the result is HD.
 
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The video link you gave is a 240p quality, to get a full HD version it's odd. Even with a conversion I've some doubt.

The method I showed allows to get the same quality displayed with the original link. When it's 720p or 1080p the result is HD.
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That wasn't quite my point, but never mind. Just a kind word of warning, though: one of the four download options File2HD.com, that couldn't find any audio or movies, was so kind as to drop something in AF's cache that ClamXav quarantines after detecting it as Win.Trojan.Miner-6840763. Does so everytime the site is accessed.
 
Thank you all so much RobJos, madbiker31, and mrkapqa. That was very kind of you all.

It's nice to know that you can do video downloads in ArcticFox--espexially that "pwn" method that you mentioned madbiker31. Cheers!
 
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Any idea what I should look for if this situation reproduces itself?
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Not offhand no. Rogue add-on? I personally haven't seen it happen, and i leave the browser open for days on end running the ambassador irc (fork of chatzilla) add-on. So i guess i use 4 add-ons not 3 like i previously mentioned. Or maybe the video downloader site that gave you the windows trojan left some junk behind? Only other thing i can think of is if you have java installed, i'd disable it's plugin, or at least set to "ask to activate" as our older java can barf out of the blue.

This download helper works well also: https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/flashgot/?src=ss

Cheers
 
wicknix said:
Not offhand no. Rogue add-on? I personally haven't seen it happen, and i leave the browser open for days on end running the ambassador irc (fork of chatzilla) add-on. So i guess i use 4 add-ons not 3 like i previously mentioned.
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Might well be, I'm still working on adding/removing/fine-tuning add-ons found on this page, courtesy of snowy moon. Lucky you, if I may say so, I wouldn't be able to keep a flow with only four addons. Maybe just a luxury, like gastronomy vs. not starving.

wicknix said:
Or maybe the video downloader site that gave you the windows trojan left some junk behind?
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Matter of fact, it didn't represent itself yesterday, but it's hard to tell, as I had to reboot a couple of times.

wicknix said:
Only other thing i can think of is if you have java installed, i'd disable it's plugin, or at least set to "ask to activate" as our older java can barf out of the blue.
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No, ≠java, long time no have used. Last plugin left (Ask to Activate) is flash.

wicknix said:
This download helper works well also: https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/flashgot/?src=ss
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Oh yes, I've had it from the start, as mentioned at 4. here. Except that now, thanks to that same archive.org treasure trove provided by snowy moon, I can couple it once again with DownThemAll and remove the other ones. Btw, this resuscitated my favourite DTA Turbo download option in FlashGot. Takes care of that point 4, then (and yes, maybe I should have guessed that that's what DTA stood for).

wicknix said:
Cheers
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I love your “cheers”, it's so, what shall I say… jovial. One doesn't often run into jovial developers. I feel bad removing it each time.

A few flattering words certainly can't hurt before I plague you once again with another music site, Qobuz, that's not functional. The problem here is that I cannot sign in as a user: the login page barely moves, gets back right away to where it was. Same thing in NewMoon, basic no-frills installation with uBlock Origin disabled, except that it says it cannot connect to the <grrr>captcha server</grrr>. No such notice in AF, I'd hate to say I'm missing it. Now, the very curious thing is that it's still working perfectly well in ol'Firefox 45.9 ESR. And even curiouser: without any captcha request !!!

Keep in mind that I still have too many fingers left on just one hand to count the sites not working properly in ArcticFox. And rejoice in your good work!
 
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wicknix said:
Yeah newmoon/palemoon 27 is backwards/forwards compatible with AF. So import away. :)
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Beginning to look into it, please pardon my ignorance: no NewMoon directory in Application Support, is NM using the Palemoon profile? If so, how do I edit the Terminal string you once gave us to get things right: cd /Applications/NewMoon.app or Palemoon.app ?/Contents/MacOS then ./newmoon or palemoon ? -P

Better to ask before I mess about in the Terminal. For that matter I should delete my copy of Palemoon 27.2.1 before all this, correct?
 
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