P.S.2. I also sent Sydney the "degrade gracefully" link.
Thanks for that, B S Magnet - it says it all.
Thanks for that, B S Magnet - it says it all.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Arctic Fox web browser for 10.6 (32 & 64-bit)
- Thread starter wicknix
- Start date
-
- Tags
- snow leopard web browser
- Sort by reaction score
Clicking ‘gstatic.com’ in uMatrix allowed Google Account Chooser to work. Strangely nothing with ‘account’ in it seemed to have an effect.
It’s a bit of pot-luck, not knowing which bits do what.
It's like NoScript, and the trial and error with the dozens of enigmatic links it turns up.
And another...
Even in FireFox v.78 (El Capitan), clicking ajax.googleapis.com was needed before images would load for the Tate Gallery. Meddling google, again! Thought you would like to know...
P.S. I sent my previous screen shot of the Art Gallery of NSW to their web master. He admitted they hadn't attended to backward compatibility yet. It's been 7 months! So I told him his site had caused a scandal on this thread. (If he turns up, be kind to him...)
Even in FireFox v.78 (El Capitan), clicking ajax.googleapis.com was needed before images would load for the Tate Gallery. Meddling google, again! Thought you would like to know...
P.S. I sent my previous screen shot of the Art Gallery of NSW to their web master. He admitted they hadn't attended to backward compatibility yet. It's been 7 months! So I told him his site had caused a scandal on this thread. (If he turns up, be kind to him...)
Generally speaking, whenever I see a site fail to load images or page modules, I look first to requested domains which list some variation on “ajax” (the asynchronous javascript) or “js” in it (like “jsdelivr.net” or “js-agent.newrelic.com”) and select those to green first (under the “script” column). If those don’t do the trick, I generally chalk it up to newer-standard javascript (which excludes browsers lacking that capability, with an added consequence of a site design which fails to degrade gracefully for any browser lacking that newer standard).
It’s an executive decision by a site developer to do this: to either choose to reach the widest audience base with most content across the site to be accessible to that audience, or, delicately put, to just stick it to almost everyone (save for a select minority who are running the most bleeding-edge browser version on a very recent OS and/or recent hardware). In the olden days of the early aughts, a branding/ad agency might have striven for designing to reach the latter, but overall the goal these days is to reach the most eyeballs (a “Web 2.0” cornerstone, really) — which amounts to the widest compatibility and using slightly older javascript and HTML. And, of course, it’s more overhead for site developers, but it’s completely possible to accomplish both at the same time.
I’m not sure where the Tate fall in this scenario.
ajax; jsdelivr; newrelic...hey, you've got the same list as me!
The Tate page has 60 bits of java script...that's right, six-zero, sixty.
But anything with google in it, that's a deal-breaker - ever since they stripped google search of hit counts, page numbers, translate this page, reverse image search, etc., for anyone on FireFox 48. They have changed the interface of gmail now, from plain html to Workspace bells and whistles. I discovered they reorganized my mail, too, into Primary, Social and Promotions folders. What the...!!!
The Tate page has 60 bits of java script...that's right, six-zero, sixty.
But anything with google in it, that's a deal-breaker - ever since they stripped google search of hit counts, page numbers, translate this page, reverse image search, etc., for anyone on FireFox 48. They have changed the interface of gmail now, from plain html to Workspace bells and whistles. I discovered they reorganized my mail, too, into Primary, Social and Promotions folders. What the...!!!
Case in point [DISCLAIMER: I'm not trying in the least to propagandise for anything.]
As it so happens, I have just come across this civilised website, never seen that before. In AF, site's jscript enabled:
After disabling jscript:
If it's not readable from the thumbnail, here's what it says:
A version of this action that uses less javascript and may be usable for those who don't use javascript is available at [link]. Whence I was led to a perfectly functional version of that page (a petition). I mean, it's not like these people are supported by billionaire monnies. So if they can do it, anybody should be able to.
Last edited:
You had me converted, until I found your attachment had gone missing.
Perhaps you could try some java script...?
(snigger)
Not to my knowledge, no, and I don’t believe it’s possible.
Arctic Fox is derived from a much later iteration of Mozilla’s code base for Firefox and, thus, was written with Intel/little endian architecture in mind. TenFourFox (and now, InterwebPPC) came into being through the work of Cameron Kaiser after Mozilla dropped PowerPC/big-endian support, post-Firefox 3 or so, around 2010 or maybe 2011.
Kaiser, who managed a successful effort to maintain support for PowerPC architecture (specifically, Tiger and Leopard Macs and, although unintended, on Snow Leopard for PowerPC as well), worked to backport and bring over features (and, later, security fixes) released by Mozilla for Firefox deployment on non-PowerPC systems. His work is why Mozilla-based browsing on PowerPC Macs with TFF managed to survive for a full decade after Mozilla dropped PowerPC support for Firefox.
Maybe @wicknix or someone more familiar here could fill in some of the lines I missed in the above recap?
OK, corrected (don't ask me
). Nothing earth-shattering, literally blank, as you can see.
It wouldn't be worth the effort. TFF and IWPPC are just as capable (and/or incapable) as AF.
You can however use the "unfinished" version I built back in 2019 for 10.4 and 10.5ppc. It mostly works. It's linked on the download page.
Cheers
Last edited:
What a relief ? ! The world is at peace again ... despite google.OK, corrected (don't ask me
Gladdening news, just in - Google Workspace has fallen on its face…
“We’re sorry, but your account is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience and suggest trying again in a few minutes.”
Hopefully, it’s death throes.
“We’re sorry, but your account is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience and suggest trying again in a few minutes.”
Hopefully, it’s death throes.
Find out with this one simple trick
(web developers hate it!)
It’s a record store or book store shopper.
Well I never! The next time I see sheep grazing in the aisles, I'll get them to fetch my emails and give me a recipe for Christmas pudding (only X days to go...).
P.S. I enjoyed the invisible trick.
Yet another...
On eBay's "My Account Summary" page, ebaystatic.com must be clicked if any images are to appear.
Th site is so convoluted! Sometimes, to fully reveal a product's description, it is easier to totally disable uMatrix.
On eBay's "My Account Summary" page, ebaystatic.com must be clicked if any images are to appear.
Th site is so convoluted! Sometimes, to fully reveal a product's description, it is easier to totally disable uMatrix.
IT'S OFFICIAL!!
Interweb is the winner!
It is now the only browser on Snow Leopard that can log in to my local library's free WiFi.
(Well, Nightly can too, but it's deathly slow - probably from sharing its profile with FireFox.)
ArcticFox fell at the last hurdle.
So had FireFox itself, a month or so ago (maybe the Great Certificate Debacle of September 30th had sapped its strength)...
Safari? Chrome? Opera? Never in the running.
Interweb is the winner!
It is now the only browser on Snow Leopard that can log in to my local library's free WiFi.
(Well, Nightly can too, but it's deathly slow - probably from sharing its profile with FireFox.)
ArcticFox fell at the last hurdle.
So had FireFox itself, a month or so ago (maybe the Great Certificate Debacle of September 30th had sapped its strength)...
Safari? Chrome? Opera? Never in the running.
When I first heard of Interweb over a year ago, I wrote to our friendly developer: “in Interweb's Prefs tab, the Search, Privacy, Sync and Advanced menus don't open”. Just out of curiosity, has this been fixed? (SpiderWeb is still my best bet after AF)
So there's a Fake One?
I like how SpiderWeb has many plugins with its download, like a bonus bag of lollies.
(I was hoping for the costume, though.)