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Wowfunhappy

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Here's the large list that's missing.

Fwiw, from what Bluebox has said I've repeatedly gotten the impression that there isn't some major technical hurdle that makes Chromiumium Legacy on Snow Leopard particularly difficult compared to Lion. It's just additional incremental work which someone would have to do. That list of missing APIs looks nuts, and it is, but it also pales in comparison to what has already been overcome to support Lion. Chromium Legacy is just a really impressive project!

Bluebox chose Lion as a minimum target because that's the OS he personally uses. I would have done the same in his position, not because I hate older OSs but because if I'm already tackling a herculean backport I'm going to do whatever I can to make the job as manageable as possible! Bluebox indicated that he would be open to a pull request which adds 10.6 support, someone else just needs to do the work.
 
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A miracle of sorts?

For the first time ever I was able to upgrade from v.27.11 to this 41.0, immediately importing my complete profile and without a single crash! Once only it did query the set of installed extensions, said that there was a problem, but apparently imported them all.

I say apparently, because I didn't have time for more, and unfortunately I probably won't have time this coming period. So, what I've noticed on the fly is that the contents of web pages is much smaller (probably easy to resolve, font size?), and that making the title bar show up (which in 27.11 I do by pressing Ctl+Alt+T twice) doesn't work.

Anyway, first sensation: fantastic!
 
Unfortunately, there's no 32-bit binary for Snow Leopard. In addition, I tried to run the 64-bit binary on a 64-bit virtual machine of Snow Leopard and that didn't work. Any suggestions?
Mine is SnL 64-bit. Oth, I once sat next to someone building up a 64-bit VM of Snow Leopard, and man, did I hear some swearing, moaning and puffing. The decision was thereafter to keep on working with Linux VMs, as clumsy as they may be.
 

PeterHolbrook

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I'm typing this on a 32-bit version of Arctic Fox 40.0 for Snow Leopard. It's working fine, but, alas, no 32-bit 41.0 to be found anywhere, as far as I can see.
 
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Sorry about my original enthusiasm, folks. With one post-27.11 version after the other crashing on launch and/or not importing anything of the current profile, it just seemed so wonderful. Unfortunately, it didn't turn out as well as it was promising, and here's what I ended up with:

- Out of 54 add-ons, only 39 showed up as installed after launch. There was no way to even test the 15 that weren't. Any original link went over to Mozilla, only to meet the well-known “Firefox not up-to-date” or the like. There are some of those extensions, like DTA or Save-to-Read, that I just can't live without. Of the 39, I tested only a few, and some were not functional. Or, as in the case of GreaseMonkey running as it should, I had to reinstall the script SaveTube(+)

- No title bar, no status bar to be seen or enabled anywhere I looked. As a result, the must-have add-on NoScript!, which appears as installed among the 39, doesn't show up anywhere in the interface and cannot be accessed.

- I commonly access, practically on a daily basis, a good number of sites that at some point had stopped opening or working in AF. In some cases, after a period they also stopped working any longer in SpiderWeb. For those I considered essential — banks, webmail, IP provider, shopping sites etc. — I ended up using a browser in my Linux VM. Well, as far as AF 41 goes, nothing has changed: those sites I tested are still not functional.

- For some strange reason, every single time I launched this new version the font size on new pages or on those that had been open was so minuscule that I had to press Apple + [+] at least ten times in order to get them to the readable size I'm used to in 27.11.

- v. 41 seemed less reactive than v. 27, with some hesitations or hiccups. A couple of times it didn't respond when I tried to access an inactive tab, and I had to restart the application. That's on 10.6.8.

I really wish I had something positive to add, but sadly nothing encouraging turned up while i was going through all the tests above. At this point, I think I'll stay with AF 27 for good, and be content with updating SpiderWeb and those Linux browsers (including the bright new Mullvad Browser, that are doing perfectly well what I need from them.
 

wicknix

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I'm a big fan of spiderweb. Too bad it didn't take off with users as much as i had hoped.

I dont know whats going on with AF. I use to build the 32 and 64 bit mac builds to upload to its github, but it no longer builds for me. Nothing changed on my end, and i can still build IW, SW and PM without issue on the same machine. I sent my error log over, but got no response.

As mentioned in the past, it's probably best to report issues to riccardos GitHub. He doesn't visit this forum, and i washed my hands of this project a long time ago.

Cheers
 
As mentioned in the past, it's probably best to report issues to riccardos GitHub. He doesn't visit this forum, and i washed my hands of this project a long time ago.

Cheers
As also mentioned in the past ;-) I've had difficulties with GitHub, besides the fact that I'm completely at loss in the interface and the semantics. So if anyone feels like forwarding my post, they're more than welcome to.
 

wicknix

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They should all still work. They may not install however unless you unpack the .xpi and edit the install.rdf and bump up the maximum version number.

Cheers
 

verdantppc

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@ wicknix Thanks for the heads-up! :)

AF 41.0 can access Github (although Assets displays the 'forever spinning wheel') and supports TLS 1.3 which is also good news. :)
 

glsillygili

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I deleted my old profiles but I can't get ArticFox to open on 10.6. What am I doing wrong? It worked before I updated it
Screen shot 2023-06-24 at 11.12.35 PM.png
 

alpez

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As posted earlier I got v.41 installed and running on 10.6.8 (but gave up on it for various reasons)

Hi

--> Click on Report, then you see the reason why its not launching

This is my error, libc++ was not installed on macosx before 10.7.

Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0

Dyld Error Message:
Library not loaded: /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib
Referenced from: /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib
Reason: image not found
 

barracuda156

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They should all still work. They may not install however unless you unpack the .xpi and edit the install.rdf and bump up the maximum version number.

Cheers

I may have asked about this ages ago, but now I have a more practical interest.

Could you refer me to instructions on how to build this from source? I wanna bring it to Macports.
For ref, here is how we build TenFourFox: https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/blob/master/www/tenfourfox/Portfile (this is originally made by @kencu for Intel based on instructions from @classilla – I did little, just adopting to PPC).

Or maybe you could be interested to make the port yourself? I can do PPC testing on my end, if needed.
 
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wicknix

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I am not really interested in creating a portfile as i no longer own or maintain AF and it already has binaries available. It moved to here. Build instructions are basically the same as PM as that's what it derived from. Their documentation is here.

For Mac you'll need these from macports: autoconf213 python27 libidl ccache yasm clang-3.7 (or higher) to build it.

Cheers
 
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wicknix

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Dyld Error Message:
Library not loaded: /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib
Referenced from: /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib
Reason: image not found
Grab the attachment below and copy those 2 dylibs to /usr/lib. AF will work again. It seems the new owner of AF isn't relinking the .app with those files included in the .app itself like i use to.

Cheers
 

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alpez

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Grab the attachment below and copy those 2 dylibs to /usr/lib. AF will work again. It seems the new owner of AF isn't relinking the .app with those files included in the .app itself like i use to.

Cheers

Nice :) and it works !

/Alexis
 
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barracuda156

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clang-3.7 (or higher) to build it.

Cheers

Thank you. Do you happen to know if something is badly broken for GCC there or just untested? Clangs are broken for PPC (even if 3.7 may be buildable with moderate efforts, it will not work).
 

wicknix

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Ahh, well... Current AF will not build on PowerPC MacOS/X, and clang is required for all intel mozilla based browsers as gcc isn't supported on MacOS/X. You'll get configure errors saying gcc is broken on Mac and to use clang instead.

Cheers
 

barracuda156

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Ahh, well... Current AF will not build on PowerPC MacOS/X, and clang is required for all intel mozilla based browsers as gcc isn't supported on MacOS/X. You'll get configure errors saying gcc is broken on Mac and to use clang instead.

Cheers

Well, that much is certainly fixable. Whether it will build gonna depend on how heavily it depends on new SDK features (still likely fixable), or whether it has non-portable assembler (that will be a pain, but might be portable from TFF).
 

xeno74

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Arctic Fox 43.0 has been released.

New: github.com

Downloads for Mac OS X: releases

I compiled a non-altivec 32-bit version of Arctic Fox 43.0 for Ubuntu 10.04 and higher (12.04, 14.04, 16.04 etc). It also works on Void PPC, MintPPC (Debian Sid), Debian PPC 32-bit, and Fienix.

.mozconfig

Code:
# This Source Code Form is subject to the terms of the Mozilla Public
# License, v. 2.0. If a copy of the MPL was not distributed with this
# file, You can obtain one at http://mozilla.org/MPL/2.0/.

export CC="gcc -m32 -flax-vector-conversions -O3 -falign-loops=16 -falign-functions=16 -falign-labels=16 -falign-jumps=16"
export CXX="g++ -m32 -flax-vector-conversions -fpermissive -O3 -falign-loops=16 -falign-functions=16 -falign-labels=16 -falign-jumps=16"
export LDFLAGS="-latomic"

mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/obj-ff-dbg

ac_add_options --disable-crashreporter
ac_add_options --disable-tests
ac_add_options --disable-debug
ac_add_options --disable-updater
ac_add_options --enable-mozril-geoloc
ac_add_options --disable-webrtc
ac_add_options --disable-safe-browsing
ac_add_options --disable-parental-controls
ac_add_options --enable-release
ac_add_options --disable-necko-wifi
ac_add_options --disable-eme
ac_add_options --disable-gamepad
ac_add_options --enable-dbus
ac_add_options --disable-gio
ac_add_options --disable-pulseaudio
ac_add_options --enable-strip
ac_add_options --enable-install-strip
ac_add_options --enable-application=browser
ac_add_options --with-branding=browser/branding/arcticfox
ac_add_options --enable-optimize
ac_add_options --disable-jemalloc
ac_add_options --disable-gstreamer
ac_add_options --target=powerpc-linux-gnu
ac_add_options --host=powerpc-linux-gnu
ac_add_options --disable-precompiled-startupcache

Download: arcticfox-43.0.en-US.linux-powerpc-libc6_2.11.1.tar.bz2

 
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