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Still loving my 8+ too, although I’m heading into year 2 as I bought it delayed for a better deal. Easily the best iPhone I’ve owned to date and still performing above what I need.

I actually just bought a new unlocked 8 plus only 3 months ago. The last with the (haptic) front button to push ! I hope it last another 2-3 years.
 
In my case now I have an 7plus and according to Apple it values 250 Euro.

I decided to wait until 2020 iPhone because of all the rumors and speculations. But I thought my 7plus will cost less next year maybe more than I guess. So what if I buy a XR with exchange program now and next year I can exchange the XR as the same way to get 2020 iPhones . But my concern is "Is it worth it?" I don't know the exchange values like will my 7plus drop to 150 or 100 ? Or simply will XR be 450-500 for exchange next year ?

What would be your suggestions for me to do ? Any advices ?
 
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Got an XR in November so won't be upgrading until there is a 5G iphone so 2020/2021. Usually keep mine for 3 years anyway so that should tie in nicely.
 
I have the iPhone 7 so I'm coming up on 3 years - I really don't think I can wait for yet another year as I've been wanting a bigger screen since the X was first related. I should have upgraded last year to the Xs in hindsight, but I thought (wrongly) that the big re-design would happen this year after the Xs and I typically keep my phone for 3 years as well...

If the XII is a huge upgrade, Apple might force my hand to do a 1-year upgrade and get back on the big re-design cycle, since I'm 99% sure that I'll upgrade my phone this year (larger screen vs the 7 and way better camera are 2 huge draws for me)
 
We’re talking about the iPhone here, not other Apple products. The reality is, Apple is plenty aware the economy and China’s commerce cannot support any more price increases for the iPhone. Again, nothing suggests they will increase the prices for the iPhone for 2019 at all. If you paid attention to what Tim Cook said back in January, they’re revamping the iPhone pricing through trade-ins/services come this fall, which more than enough evidence that they’re not increasing the prices for the iPhones this year. The Difference being, Apple can raise the prices for the iPhones, but from an investor standpoint, they cannot afford to in the same respect.
I wonder how successful their trade in programs are.

Prices being tied to trade in is a no-go for our family. Our phones get handed down in the family or are used as backup devices. They're worth more to us as replacement devices/in-house "upgrades" than the amount Apple is offering for trade in.
 
That’s what another member was saying to, that they’re on the ‘upgrade program’, and they can afford to upgrade annually, so why not take advantage of it. I think it makes it easier if you’re on the upgrade program versus someone that isn’t.

For those who don’t upgrade annually or don’t have any type of specific upgrade program, that’s when the decision becomes more difficult, because the price points are not very tempting, unless you trade in your device or there is a specific promotion through your carrier.
At least in the US, it's extremely trivial going on annual upgrade programs. However, $500 a year is still $500 a year. More if you're paying for multiple iPhones.

The phone's just not a priority for me. I'd rather put it towards an iPad. Or maybe a new Ryzen build. Been using the same desktop since 2012.
 
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At least in the US, it's extremely trivial going on annual upgrade programs. However, $500 a year is still $500 a year. More if you're paying for multiple iPhones.

Living in Europe, I've never understood why people in the US seem to be so keen on paying stuff monthly rather than paying upfront. The iPhone XS in the upgrade program is $50 a month, and since US carriers are pretty expensive afaik, a lot of people probably pay $80+ a month – just for their phone! I know a lot of things I'd rather do with $960/year than to spend on my phone, so I'll keep paying upfront for my phone and €5/month for my carrier.
 
I agree, but that is a trend in Europe also. People only look at the monthly cost, not the total - or how much more the total amounts to.

The same when buying stuff like cars. People buy Tesla-cars because they only cost «so and so» per month - for 10 - TEN - years.
 
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Living in Europe, I've never understood why people in the US seem to be so keen on paying stuff monthly rather than paying upfront. The iPhone XS in the upgrade program is $50 a month, and since US carriers are pretty expensive afaik, a lot of people probably pay $80+ a month – just for their phone! I know a lot of things I'd rather do with $960/year than to spend on my phone, so I'll keep paying upfront for my phone and €5/month for my carrier.

I agree, but that is a trend in Europe also. People only look at the monthly cost, not the total - or how much more the total amounts to.

The same when buying stuff like cars. People buy Tesla-cars because they only cost «so and so» per month - for 10 - TEN - years.
And thats why people in USA often end up having no money left every month, let alone any hope of saving any amount of money. In Australia, if bank sees you have payments of any kind in the last 6 months, even if the payment is clear, they will limit your ability to borrow money to buy a house, or reject your application. They argue those customers “ have greater risk at completing their monthly mortgage payment in time.

I am also against this “instalment” “buy now pay later” thing, even though this seems to be a trend in Australia nowadays, thanks to the ad bombardment from companies like “Afterpay” and “Zipmoney”.
 
Economic rules of life:

- When your paycheck comes in, the first thing to do is save some of it.
- Never buy something you cannot pay in full, except a house or maybe a sensible car.
- Learn the joy of using something for a long time until it is «utterly spent».
- Do some mathematics and experiment with compound interest - that will make you stay clear of mortgage and start saving early.
 
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Economic rules of life:

- When your paycheck comes in, the first thing to do is to save some of it.
- Never buy something you cannot pay in full, except a house of maybe a sensible car.
- Learn the joy of using something for a long time until it is «utterly spent».
- Do some mathematics and experiment with compound interest - that will make you stay clear of mortgage and start saving early.
I’d never save for a mobile phone though as it’s easily affordable on a fixed term contract that I know I can pay for. I have a rainy day fund for car issues, house issues, unemployment etc but I’m happy keeping my credit rating healthy with my mortgage, car loan and mobile phone contract.
 
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Economic rules of life:

- When your paycheck comes in, the first thing to do is save some of it.
- Never buy something you cannot pay in full, except a house or maybe a sensible car.
- Learn the joy of using something for a long time until it is «utterly spent».
- Do some mathematics and experiment with compound interest - that will make you stay clear of mortgage and start saving early.
Agree with all of those above, especially the “pay in full” part. Tie myself into multiple payment plans is not fun. Maybe US customers kinda have to go for payment, but not in Australia.
 
Yep. I'm as nerdy as the next guy, but when you paid $1100 for your XS, you're gonna use it a while. (If you're smart.)

Full disclosure: It has squat to do with whether or not I can afford it; I paid cash for my 256Gb XS, but it doesn't mean I'll do the same for the iPhone 11 or XS11 or XS1 or whatever it'll be called. LOL
 
Yep. I'm as nerdy as the next guy, but when you paid $1100 for your XS, you're gonna use it a while. (If you're smart.)

Full disclosure: It has squat to do with whether or not I can afford it; I paid cash for my 256Gb XS, but it doesn't mean I'll do the same for the iPhone 11 or XS11 or XS1 or whatever it'll be called. LOL

I am not saying categorically that dividing payments is dumb, but it is dumb in many cases where the grand total amounts to a lot more than the actual price. Some stores allow you to pay over 12 months without interest or cost and that can be a good way to go about it if you have enough economic control in your life.

If you can't shell out 1K$ for that iPhone then you probably shouldn't buy it. There is little it can do for you that a phone costing 300$ can't do just as well.
 
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Ya seriously tired of hearing about 2020s iPhone and now even 2021s

Is there really nothing to report on about this years?!?

Apart from the 3 cameras, faster cpu and possibly a new colour, this is looking like minor update.

I usually get more than half of what I paid for last years iPhone when I trade it in for the new phone. But this year in Australia, the resale value is already less than half and it’ll drop even more in a months time
 
I am not saying categorically that dividing payments is dumb, but it is dumb in many cases where the grand total amounts to a lot more than the actual price. Some stores allow you to pay over 12 months without interest or cost and that can be a good way to go about it if you have enough economic control in your life.

Yeah if the iPhone Upgrade Program charged interest then there's no way I would participate in it.
 
I wonder how successful their trade in programs are.

Prices being tied to trade in is a no-go for our family. Our phones get handed down in the family or are used as backup devices. They're worth more to us as replacement devices/in-house "upgrades" than the amount Apple is offering for trade in.

I think trade-in programs are only successful for those who actually don’t want to sell their iPhones out right, and carriers/Apple want to make it as easy as possible, so that way they walk out of the store with a brand new device in less than an hour. For those who want to maximize their profit on their iPhone, (depending on the condition/battery life, etc.,) sometimes will sell their iPhones outright like myself, because I know I can achieve more in value.
 
Had my iphone X for nearly 2 years since launch, battery health is 86% so i will be getting the 2019 phone, might go for the max version which will feel like an upgrade to me?
 
Not at all.

Never has there been such a consensus for any given iPhone model that it is DOA. That's what the 2019 model is.

No 5G, no Qualcomm, questionable camera hump, etc... All I'm saying for those who DON'T UPGRADE YEARLY, is 2019 is a HELLUVA year to skip.

Funny, there are very long threads just about every year with tons of people making this very same argument.
And somehow they keep smashing sales records every year.


That said, I'll be skipping this year because it doesn't offer me anything I really want (at least from what I've seen...) The fact that I spent $1200 last year certainly contributes to my decision.
 
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I’ll be skipping years for a while yet, my 256GB XS Max is going to last me a minimum of 4 years. I’ve absolutely no interest in 5G, Qualcomm modems, extra camera lenses, TouchID under screen etc. Although the phone I’d really like is unlikely to exist - I prefer LCD screens with 16:9 aspect ratio. The screen from the Plus phones suits me perfectly, I just want this with no bezels and FaceID.
 
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I’d like to know what I’m skipping before I skip. Once I actually know what the product is, I may or may not get one.

Tech is kind of a hobby for me, so a phone or iPad isn’t in the same class as a car or house. iPhones are dirt cheap compared to many hobbies/collections (few people collect tech). If I want one, I’ll get it, if not, no. I’ve been in the IUP for my current XS just to feel out the program. It’s OK, basically the same interest-free loan you can get from many US carriers. But going forward I’ll probably buy unlocked outright.
 
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