Aldente doesn't automatically drain the battery. You need to drain first to below or the same as your selected percentage. If you're using the pro app you can use the Drain option to drain the laptop to the selected percentage even with the charger being plugged in (idk if it needs pro tho for this)
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@white7561 I understand BUT what was surprising to me was:
1. The laptop battery is still at 100% after 2 days worth of use despite the fact that AlDente displays that charging is paused.
2. Thus, my comment that I am not sure that AlDente is working (i.e. actually pausing charging).
So, with that added information, comments / suggestions / thoughts?
1. The laptop battery is still at 100% after 2 days worth of use despite the fact that AlDente displays that charging is paused.
2. Thus, my comment that I am not sure that AlDente is working (i.e. actually pausing charging).
So, with that added information, comments / suggestions / thoughts?
Well the battery itself is at 100% . Since it has paused the charging the laptop uses the power straight from the AC. It's exactly like the Apple's one too. It stopped charging at said percentage. On Apple's it's 80% . And then just ran the laptop using ac power
Edit = Pause charging. Means it paused the charging to the battery itself. Not pause powering the laptop. So if I set it to 50% (the limit) . When it reaches 50% it'll pause charging. And the battery won't go much further . It'll stop charging the battery but again it won't drain the battery since the laptop is running using the AC power. It's like the Apple's one
@white7561:
Ah, so are you telling me that:
1. Although the charging is paused the MacBook is drawing on the AC to operate / power the MacBook as opposed to the MacBook battery which explains why the battery is still at 100%. Do I understand this properly?
2. As a result and as I am using AlDente Pro, what do you suggest that I do to optimize my batter on my 1 week old MacBook. Should I discharge it to 75%, should I do my first calibration (i.e. 15% -> 100% -> 1 hour hold -> 75% discharge), or other.
Thanks!
PS. I sure do feel stupid about the first item! Duh!
Ah don't feel stupid
. We all have those moments in life ?And yeah you understand the point 1 correctly now.
As for number 2. If you will plug it in 24/7 just do the calibration thingy every month or so. It's just so that the fuel gauge that knows how much percentage is in your battery. Calibrated
Ah don't feel stupid
And yeah you understand the point 1 correctly now.
As for number 2. If you will plug it in 24/7 just do the calibration thingy every month or so. It's just so that the fuel gauge that knows how much percentage is in your battery. Calibrated
@white7561
Appreciate your understanding and understanding.
One last thing, is it better to have the battery at 75% (which I can change via discharge) or at 199% (which is where it now is).
Thanks.
Joel
It's better to be 50-80% you can change it depending on your case. If you want it to be higher so that it charges faster when you want to go. You can do 80% . If you're just plugging it in. 50% is the best (every manufacturer who provides this kind of tool has an option for 80% or the best one 50%)
Alright then, battery on is way to 50% through discharge.
If anyone has any good articles on this please share the link.
Thanks.
Haven't tried it myself, but I've seen reports from others of it not working sometimes. Don't recall details.
It is working perfectly !
The posts above explained my confusion, all good now! Working perfectly!
It is working perfect.
Try to get your battery level to something less than the arranged percentage.
Example;
If you want your battery to be limited at 50%, set it for this level, try to get it around 45% at first by using the computer with the battery, then plug the charger in. When it reaches 50%, it will stop.
Done.
I set it to 45% and once it reaches that level I will adjust it to 50% and then let it sail.
Thx!
A few follow up AlDente questions now I have been using it for a few days:
- I am unable to remove the Helper Application; more specifically, when I remove the Helper Application AlDente quits, when I restart AlDente it insists on reinstalling the Helper Application. This is contrary to my understanding that the Helper Application is only needed for installation. Please advise.
- Right Clicking the AlDente icon in the menu bar resets the Charge Limit to 100% and does not provide the shortcut to charge or discharge as I understand is should. Do other have this experience or is this a bug or is this something else?
1. The helper is needed to control the stuff (sending the system things to pause charging etc)
2. It's probably a bug. Needs to report it
Hmmm, not so happy right now, a bit of a glitch.
I have AlDente set 50% and all was working well. I have the following AlDente configuration:
I did not power off the laptop. I did not sleep the laptop though I do have the following MacBook power settings:
I stepped away for a couple of hours and came back to find my laptop at 68% charge! WTF!
In addition, I noticed that when I went to us my laptop I noticed that AlDente was NOT in the menu bar but reappeared shortly thereafter.
In trying to figure out what the problem is I am wondering whether it is the "Present you Mac from automatically sleeping when the dimply is off" and/or th "Put hard disks to sleep when possible" that caused this to happen with the possible solutions being:
1. Leave AlDente configured as is and change the MacBook configuration by ticking "Present you Mac from automatically sleeping when the dimply is off" and/ or unticking the "Put hard disk to sleep when possible"; or
2. In AlDente enable "Stop charging when app closed" and leave MacBook configuration as is.
Would appreciate help on this and, if it is the MacBook configuration that needs to be changed, please be specific (as I do not want it o continuously charge beyond the 50% that I have set) \.
Thanks.
PS. Now discharging my way back to 50%! Yikes!
I have AlDente set 50% and all was working well. I have the following AlDente configuration:
I did not power off the laptop. I did not sleep the laptop though I do have the following MacBook power settings:
I stepped away for a couple of hours and came back to find my laptop at 68% charge! WTF!
In addition, I noticed that when I went to us my laptop I noticed that AlDente was NOT in the menu bar but reappeared shortly thereafter.
In trying to figure out what the problem is I am wondering whether it is the "Present you Mac from automatically sleeping when the dimply is off" and/or th "Put hard disks to sleep when possible" that caused this to happen with the possible solutions being:
1. Leave AlDente configured as is and change the MacBook configuration by ticking "Present you Mac from automatically sleeping when the dimply is off" and/ or unticking the "Put hard disk to sleep when possible"; or
2. In AlDente enable "Stop charging when app closed" and leave MacBook configuration as is.
Would appreciate help on this and, if it is the MacBook configuration that needs to be changed, please be specific (as I do not want it o continuously charge beyond the 50% that I have set) \.
Thanks.
PS. Now discharging my way back to 50%! Yikes!
I've reported it too. Hopefully it gets fixed quickly
It seems to me that it's a bug since theoretically it shouldn't do that considering the settings. It should keep the device awake till it's 50% and be able to sleep. But before sleep it should pause the charging so it shouldn't be charging.
This is probably a bug that needs to be reported.
I've reported it too. Hopefully it gets fixed quickly
It seems to me that it's a bug since theoretically it shouldn't do that considering the settings. It should keep the device awake till it's 50% and be able to sleep. But before sleep it should pause the charging so it shouldn't be charging.
This is probably a bug that needs to be reported.
I think I will try a reboot!
I reported it! A little frustrating to have discovered two bugs so quickly!
Yeh. Never had that issues since i don't sleep my laptop when it's plugged in. No point anyways. Since on AC without display turned on it draws like 2W or less. So yeh i just used the System Preferences option to disable sleep if the laptop is plugged in and the display is off (not with the lid closed. I think it still sleeps if the lid is closed)
With sleep disabled when it's plugged in and opened . Every apps could sync in the background and I won't miss anything in case it needs to sync etc. Like for example it can sync my offline Spotify lists, update apps, etc
I hear you!
I was wanting it to sleep to minimize the wear and tear as much as possible.
If, after the reboot, I still have the problem I will stop it from sleeping until I hear back from the developer.
Thanks.
@white7561 , yup there is a definite glitch, it seems as though AlDente is shutting down when the laptop sleeps.
I am going to a) discharge the battery down to 50% and b) turn on enable "Present you Mac from automatically sleeping when the dimply is off".
I must admit that I am disappointed that the software does not work.
I am going to a) discharge the battery down to 50% and b) turn on enable "Present you Mac from automatically sleeping when the dimply is off".
I must admit that I am disappointed that the software does not work.
I mean it does work. But yeah some of the features still have bugs it seems. Overall I would still choose this than Apple's own Optimized Battery Charging
I know have another problem, I ticked the "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the dimply is off" but know the screen saver never engages and the display need turns off, WTF!I mean it does work. But yeah some of the features still have bugs it seems. Overall I would still choose this than Apple's own Optimized Battery Charging
I am becoming less and less impressed with this software!
What? That option only stops the sleeping process when the display is off (apples option. Not AlDente's)
Are you currently charging to 50% when it doesn't want to turn off the display? If yes then it's prob your aldente option to keep awake till it reaches 50% . Since it's a wake lock.
It's not the software's fault, AFAIK if you want to prevent sleep temporarily. It will stop the display from going entirely from on to off. It's just how Mac OS handle those things AFAIK.
If you just want to prevent sleep but simultaneously allowing the display to turn off. Then just use the prevent sleep while charging on System Preferences. Disable the disable sleep option on AlDente so it won't keep the machine on a wakelock which will let the screen on until the wakelock is off