Battery life iPhone Vs. Android

[potentmf]

Having both, I agree with the earlier fonts. Apple has great standby time, but once you pick it up again and start using it goes down fast, like it's catching up or something. Apple does this weird thing, where it stays between 100 and 98% for an extremely long time, then you look up an hour later and your sitting at 60%.

I've only had the 7+ and Ten, battery has been great on both (except when 7+ got the first iteration of iOS11)

Android used to eat battery in standby mode, go to bed at 75% and wake up at 45%, that doesn't happen anymore with Doze.

 

[AustinIllini]

Android used to eat battery in standby mode, go to bed at 75% and wake up at 45%, that doesn't happen anymore with Doze.

Funny story, my old MotoDROID used to run a radio app, while plugged in and still drained the battery.

 

[Michael Goff]

Why won't this thread die? I mean... My battery life on my Note, Pixel, or iPhone is going to be vastly different than anybody else's. Why? Because my use is different. Your use is different.

That's what makes buying a phone based on battery life an issue. You can look at all the reviews and magically get different things because your use case doesn't match with theirs.

 

[mib1800]

Why won't this thread die? I mean... My battery life on my Note, Pixel, or iPhone is going to be vastly different than anybody else's. Why? Because my use is different. Your use is different.

That's what makes buying a phone based on battery life an issue. You can look at all the reviews and magically get different things because your use case doesn't match with theirs.

Nobody is interested in your use cases btw

Yes...variability exists due to usage pattern. BUT it is a bit of a cop out to use the Uncertainty Principle escape clause in this case because your favorite phone(s) didnt do well. So those youtube (continuous) battery drain tests may not be perfect but they do give some concrete evidence on how battery efficient those phones are.

 

[Michael Goff]

Nobody is interested in your use cases btw

Yes...variability exists due to usage pattern. BUT it is a bit of a cop out to use the Uncertainty Principle escape clause in this case because your favorite phone(s) didnt do well. So those youtube (continuous) battery drain tests may not be perfect but they do give some concrete evidence on how battery efficient those phones are.

Is battery efficiency important or whether it goes a full day of whatever you consider heavy use?

 

[AustinIllini]

Nobody is interested in your use cases btw

Yes...variability exists due to usage pattern. BUT it is a bit of a cop out to use the Uncertainty Principle escape clause in this case because your favorite phone(s) didnt do well. So those youtube (continuous) battery drain tests may not be perfect but they do give some concrete evidence on how battery efficient those phones are.

That's a whole lot of words for very little context. And youtube battery tests only account for about 25% of phone usage, that is, when phones are on. 75% of the time the phone is in standby.

Is battery efficiency important or whether it goes a full day of whatever you consider heavy use?

Full day use. Bar none. I know the question was rhetorical, but someone just suggested the iPhone had better battery life because the battery is smaller.

 

[torana355]

And youtube battery tests only account for about 25% of phone usage, that is, when phones are on. 75% of the time the phone is in standby.

Well that depends on the user, some people use their phone non stop which requires good screen on time. People that don't use their phone much are not really relevant as they will get though a full day regardless. This is why i see SOT as one of the best ways to judge a phones battery.

 

[AustinIllini]

Well that depends on the user, some people use their phone non stop which requires good screen on time. People that don't use their phone much are not really relevant as they will get though a full day regardless. This is why i see SOT as one of the best ways to judge a phones battery.

Well that's completely and totally incorrect. By and large, SOT approaches about 30% for real power users. In the real world, where we all live, the typical user spends about 20% of their time with the screen on. The rest of the time? I had better spell it out for you: Standby. Standby battery life is approximately 4 times as important as screen on time when it comes to getting a full day of battery life.

So while the Note 8 will get something like 5 hours SOT the iPhone can still have better battery life if it performs better on standby, because again, in the real world, even power users have their phones on standby most of the time.

 

[torana355]

Well that's completely and totally incorrect. By and large, SOT approaches about 30% for real power users. In the real world, where we all live, the typical user spends about 20% of their time with the screen on. The rest of the time? I had better spell it out for you: Standby. Standby battery life is approximately 4 times as important as screen on time when it comes to getting a full day of battery life.

So while the Note 8 will get something like 5 hours SOT the iPhone can still have better battery life if it performs better on standby, because again, in the real world, even power users have their phones on standby most of the time.

Well i'm not sure where you are pulling your numbers from but you are wrong. I average 6 hours SOT per day (often more then that), thats almost half my day. So its closer to 50% for me. Also as has been shown in many youtube vids the S8 plus excels in SOT so it suits MY needs. Standby time is totally irrelevant to me, any phone can last multiple days on standby these days. Also due to standby drain being considerby less then SOT drain your 4 times as important line is totally wrong lol

 

[AustinIllini]

Well i'm not sure where you are pulling your numbers from but you are wrong. I average 6 hours SOT per day (often more then that), thats almost half my day. So its closer to 50% for me. Also as has been shown in many youtube vids the S8 plus excels in SOT so it suits MY needs. Standby time is totally irrelevant to me, any phone can last multiple days on standby these days. Also due to standby drain being considerby less then SOT drain your 4 times as important line is totally wrong lol

How many hours of standby do you average? You only get 12 hours of battery life? Is your phone faulty?

 

[torana355]

How many hours of standby do you average? You only get 12 hours of battery life? Is your phone faulty?

My battery is still sitting at 40 percent at the end of the day. Thats after 6 hours SOT. I can get over 9 hours SOT if i drain my battery right down to zero. This is why SOT is important to ME. Total standby drain over a day on a current android phone is around 15%. Its really not an important factor in battery life at all unless you are a very light user who needs to keep phone off the charger for multiple days at a time.

 

[AustinIllini]

My battery is still sitting at 40 percent at the end of the day. Thats after 6 hours SOT. I can get over 9 hours SOT if i drain my battery right down to zero. This is why SOT is important to ME. Total standby drain over a day on a current android phone is around 15%. Its really not an important factor in battery life at all unless you are a very light user who needs to keep phone off the charger for multiple days at a time.

What's your standby time? 15% drain on standby time is horrible.

 

[torana355]

What's your standby time? 15% drain on standby time is horrible.

On a normal day my standby time would be about 7 hours, so i lose about 1-2 percent per hour when i'm not using the phone at all.

 

[AustinIllini]

On a normal day my standby time would be about 7 hours, so i lose about 1-2 percent per hour.

That’s terrible. And you just made my point for me

 

[torana355]

That’s terrible. And you just made my point for me

Well its not when i can get 9 hours SOT off one charge. Im not sure why this is so hard for you to understand. Standby time only accounts for 15 percent of total battery loss and thats with "terrible standby time" 85% of battery loss is from SOT over a day. That makes SOT 6.6 times more important then standby time over a day.

Also to be clear that standby drain is on 4g in a weak signal area (my work) not at home on wifi. At home on wifi if i leave my phone on overnight it only loses like 4 percent over 8 hours.

Its like trying to say standby power usage is more important on your TV since it is in standby mode the majority of the time, the power used when the TV is actually on FAR outweighs the amount used when in standby and its the exact same principle with your phone.

 

[Michael Goff]

That's a whole lot of words for very little context. And youtube battery tests only account for about 25% of phone usage, that is, when phones are on. 75% of the time the phone is in standby.


Full day use. Bar none. I know the question was rhetorical, but someone just suggested the iPhone had better battery life because the battery is smaller.

Actually, the main reason I asked the question was because somebody had said in the thread that the iPhone had better battery life just because it was smaller and manages to get manageable battery life. I check the forums mid work and forgot who had said it but couldn't check.

That being said, none of these flagship phones are ever going to have the battery life of a BB KEYOne or some obscure Chinese phone with a 10k battery. They typically also use a lower resolution and a more efficient processor.

 

[torana355]

Well its not when i can get 9 hours SOT off one charge. Im not sure why this is so hard for you to understand. Standby time only accounts for 15 percent of total battery loss and thats with "terrible standby time" 85% of battery loss is from SOT over a day. That makes SOT 6.6 times more important then standby time over a day.

Also to be clear that standby drain is on 4g in a weak signal area (my work) not at home on wifi. At home on wifi if i leave my phone on overnight it only loses like 4 percent over 8 hours.

Its like trying to say standby power usage is more important on your TV since it is in standby mode the majority of the time, the power used when the TV is actually on FAR outweighs the amount used when in standby and its the exact same principle with your phone.

Please delete this post mods

 

[The Game 161]

Why won't this thread die? I mean... My battery life on my Note, Pixel, or iPhone is going to be vastly different than anybody else's. Why? Because my use is different. Your use is different.

That's what makes buying a phone based on battery life an issue. You can look at all the reviews and magically get different things because your use case doesn't match with theirs.

Very true

If our phones lasts all day with heavy usage isn’t that’s all that matters?

I have 25% left on my x 11am the day after. So 30hours standby. Each day is different. When I’m at home all day it can last almost two days. When I’m out and about I will charge each night. Each usage day can be different.

 

[rtomyj]

Why should anyone buying a phone care about how big the battery is?

When comparing two similar sized batteries the iPhone comes on top which goes against the narrative OP pointed that the iPhone always gets a bad rep for having poor battery life. That is all.
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The iPhone has great battery life i'm not disputing that, i'm disputing your ridiculous claim that Android phones have **** battery life. Also the size of the battery is irrelevant, we are not discussing which OS is more efficient, we are talking about battery life of a phone. If you want to bring efficiency into the equation you then have to look at the advantages these Android phone are getting that causes the extra battery drain like true multitasking. The current crop of Android phones are on par and some like the One plus 5 have well and truly surpassed the iPhone.

Again compared to like sized batteries most Android phones don't hold the candle to the iPhone. There standby is indeed ****. I cannot leave my Android phone idle (on WiFi, does not have cellular at all) for a day and a half without it dying. That's the same standby as my Apple Watch... pretty **** I'd say.

And yes we are talking about efficiency since how well the OS is optimized directly correlates with how long it lasts. If a phone with a smaller battery lasts longer than those with bigger batteries, it's a problem. To be quite honest, instead of accepting Android users should demand Google actually get serious and fixes their OS. Plenty of iOS posts regarding this when users feel cheated with their OS experience. Same should happen with Android camp.

 

[Michael Goff]

When comparing two similar sized batteries the iPhone comes on top which goes against the narrative OP pointed that the iPhone always gets a bad rep for having poor battery life. That is all.
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Again compared to like sized batteries most Android phones don't hold the candle to the iPhone. There standby is indeed ****. I cannot leave my Android phone idle (on WiFi, does not have cellular at all) for a day and a half without it dying. That's the same standby as my Apple Watch... pretty **** I'd say.

And yes we are talking about efficiency since how well the OS is optimized directly correlates with how long it lasts. If a phone with a smaller battery lasts longer than those with bigger batteries, it's a problem. To be quite honest, instead of accepting Android users should demand Google actually get serious and fixes their OS. Plenty of iOS posts regarding this when users feel cheated with their OS experience. Same should happen with Android camp.

Okay. But the iPhone has worse battery life than the flagships it is competing with. Battery size is irrelevant.

 

[Septembersrain]

It's like people who would compare an apple to an orange. Everyone will have a different experience. Problem is when an iPhone user who has no experience with an Android tries to review an Android. Same with Android users on iPhone.

 

[markp-a]

Battery life is awesome.

iPhone X

 

[torana355]

Again compared to like sized batteries most Android phones don't hold the candle to the iPhone. There standby is indeed ****. I cannot leave my Android phone idle (on WiFi, does not have cellular at all) for a day and a half without it dying. That's the same standby as my Apple Watch... pretty **** I'd say.

And yes we are talking about efficiency since how well the OS is optimized directly correlates with how long it lasts. If a phone with a smaller battery lasts longer than those with bigger batteries, it's a problem. To be quite honest, instead of accepting Android users should demand Google actually get serious and fixes their OS. Plenty of iOS posts regarding this when users feel cheated with their OS experience. Same should happen with Android camp.

Im sorry your post is dribble. Im not going to argue with someone who clearly has little idea what they are talking about. Anyone that has actually used a 2017 Android phone will be laughing at your statement that your phone can't last a day and a half on standby. Also when iOS can do true multitasking then come back and compare your "efficiency"

There is a link showing the S8 plus beating the iPhone 7 plus hands down.

 

[Michael Goff]

Battery life is awesome.

iPhone X

What were you actually doing during that time?

 

[Septembersrain]

What were you actually doing during that time?

That looks like the software bug where stuff got stuck at the exact same time.