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Puddled

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On the subject of Android standby time.

This is my battery graph from yesterday. My battery this morning is at 55% after a full night off the charger. My SOT is at 2hrs 20m atm.
This is a S6 which is no battery champ.

You can see that my standby drain is essentially flat. My predicted usage life left is +9hrs.

My phone is stock. No root, no disablers. I have sync on 100% and my location is on. Wifi on always. My carrier signal is poor.

Like lots of old truths that once were but are no more, the Apple/Android battery life arguments don't mean anything anymore.

They are as good as each other in all areas.
 

markp-a

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What were you actually doing during that time?

Light use on a Saturday. I have started charging before I go to sleep so it’s 100 % at night. Then it doesn’t sit on the charger all night. So you get a free night of stand by time. So sun am down to 17 %. And yes I seem to have found a bug. Usually they are different.
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Lilok

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All i can say is that my gf has a huawei and she can make 2 days of usage without charge easily. I have to plugin every 12h with my phone -_-

Thats a huge thing that actually is also a reason considering me to switch...
 
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Light use on a Saturday. I have started charging before I go to sleep so it’s 100 % at night. Then it doesn’t sit on the charger all night. So you get a free night of stand by time. So sun am down to 17 %. And yes I seem to have found a bug. Usually they are different.
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Hard restart your device. Those should definitely be different numbers.
 

Puddled

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If there was one thing that really pissed me off about marshmallow, it was the removal of the "awake" graphic
 

Tsepz

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I don't know dude. I have two android devices and that is my experience. If anything this thread proves that people spread misinformation about the iPhone. I have posted two screenshots with amazing standby and pretty decent usage but people disragrd it. Apparently listening to music, surfing the web and doing work on my phone isn't enough. But I wouldn't be able to do that with my Androids.

I am glad that (if true) Samsung finally put effort in battery life. However, a 3500 mAh
Should beat a 2715 mAh battery.
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The Pixel 2XL has a 3520 mAh battery. Remember guys if a phone has a smaller battery but gets better life that phone has better battery life.
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Yep amazing battery is amazing.
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I posted the usage in another post. I use my phone quite a bit.

Indeed, when Cellular is turned off or its just a WiFi iPad I'd always expect great battery life.
 
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Tsepz

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When comparing two similar sized batteries the iPhone comes on top which goes against the narrative OP pointed that the iPhone always gets a bad rep for having poor battery life. That is all.
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Again compared to like sized batteries most Android phones don't hold the candle to the iPhone. There standby is indeed ****. I cannot leave my Android phone idle (on WiFi, does not have cellular at all) for a day and a half without it dying. That's the same standby as my Apple Watch... pretty **** I'd say.

And yes we are talking about efficiency since how well the OS is optimized directly correlates with how long it lasts. If a phone with a smaller battery lasts longer than those with bigger batteries, it's a problem. To be quite honest, instead of accepting Android users should demand Google actually get serious and fixes their OS. Plenty of iOS posts regarding this when users feel cheated with their OS experience. Same should happen with Android camp.
Android has long become efficient buddy, but considering the fact that most Android phones have:
1. Larger Displays with Higher Resolution
2. Do real multitasking and keep more apps in the background for productivity
3. Have more widgets etc... updating in real-time

Would be advisable.

The fact that most of these Androids have all that and STILL outlast an iPhone that barely keeps apps open and has a smaller display with less resolution is amazing in actual fact.


We've seen countless videos of both iPhone 8 and X being obliterated in battery life by Androids that carry far more power intensive hardware.

So you can't use your Android for work, majority of us can happily do it and get great battery life with them.
 

Tsepz

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On the subject of Android standby time.

This is my battery graph from yesterday. My battery this morning is at 55% after a full night off the charger. My SOT is at 2hrs 20m atm.
This is a S6 which is no battery champ.

You can see that my standby drain is essentially flat. My predicted usage life left is +9hrs.

My phone is stock. No root, no disablers. I have sync on 100% and my location is on. Wifi on always. My carrier signal is poor.

Like lots of old truths that once were but are no more, the Apple/Android battery life arguments don't mean anything anymore.

They are as good as each other in all areas.
Indeed.

Some people still have the need to justify why they stick to Apple I guess, otherwise they wouldn't be here talking trash.
 

Michael Goff

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Android has long become efficient buddy, but considering the fact that most Android phones have:
1. Larger Displays with Higher Resolution
2. Do real multitasking and keep more apps in the background for productivity
3. Have more widgets etc... updating in real-time

Would be advisable.

The fact that most of these Androids have all that and STILL outlast an iPhone that barely keeps apps open and has a smaller display with less resolution is amazing in actual fact.


We've seen countless videos of both iPhone 8 and X being obliterated in battery life by Androids that carry far more power intensive hardware.

So you can't use your Android for work, majority of us can happily do it and get great battery life with them.

Would you explain how Android has a more “real multitasking” in terms of back grounding apps?
 

Tsepz

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Light use on a Saturday. I have started charging before I go to sleep so it’s 100 % at night. Then it doesn’t sit on the charger all night. So you get a free night of stand by time. So sun am down to 17 %. And yes I seem to have found a bug. Usually they are different.
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Interesting you didn't state anything about a bug earlier...
 

Tsepz

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Would you explain how Android has a more “real multitasking” in terms of back grounding apps?
I can take Twitter for example on my iPad, it seems to take a screenshot of where it is and when I open it again there is a moment where it loads the screenshot of where the app was and then continues to run after that.

On Android the app loads immediately as it was.

I see this difference a lot throughout iOS where the iPhone or iPad seems to have sort of have to "fake" keeping the apps going .
 

Michael Goff

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I can take Twitter for example on my iPad, it seems to take a screenshot of where it is and when I open it again there is a moment where it loads the screenshot of where the app was and then continues to run after that.

On Android the app loads immediately as it was.

I see this difference a lot throughout iOS where the iPhone or iPad seems to have sort of have to "fake" keeping the apps going .

I just checked your example on both my iPhone and Pixel. It looked like the exact same thing happened. The app came up instantly and then took a second to load the newest tweets.

I can see the spinning wheel of loading, but that looks more like when I try to check for new tweets than anything else, and the Android app seems to do the same thing.
 

Tsepz

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I just checked your example on both my iPhone and Pixel. It looked like the exact same thing happened. The app came up instantly and then took a second to load the newest tweets.

I can see the spinning wheel of loading, but that looks more like when I try to check for new tweets than anything else, and the Android app seems to do the same thing.
It's not something I experience in Android unless I am running low on RAM. I remember my Galaxy S3 used to it after it got the Jellybean update, it drove me insane.

Note8 loads everything as is, theres no waiting for it to load, it gives me stuff running as is, so when I see it on my iPad it truly annoys me.
 

Michael Goff

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It's not something I experience in Android unless I am running low on RAM. I remember my Galaxy S3 used to it after it got the Jellybean update, it drove me insane.

Note8 loads everything as is, theres no waiting for it to load, it gives me stuff running as is, so when I see it on my iPad it truly annoys me.

I probably explained it wrong. I meant the Twitter app does the “loading new tweets” thing on both. They both open instantly.
 

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All i can say is that my gf has a huawei and she can make 2 days of usage without charge easily. I have to plugin every 12h with my phone -_-

Thats a huge thing that actually is also a reason considering me to switch...

Yeah but how is that scientific at all? My wife uses Facebook all day, talks to handfuls of people, does Instagram, school stuff, all that on her iPhone. She'll barely last all day on her 8+. Meanwhile my iPhone 8+ will end the day at 93%.

Why? Because I barely use my phone. I've been able to get 5 days out of some of my iPhones ... because I'm a super light user.

A more accurate check would be to take the same person, one week use one phone, and the next week use the other phone. This gives the phones a few days to settle in and have the SAME usage from the same person over a set of time.


My device usage includes: (HTC My Touch, Droid 1, HTC Thunderbolt, iPhone 4s, iPhone 5, Note 3, iPhone 6+, Nexus 6 (short time), iPhone 6s+, Google Pixel (short time), and now an iPhone 8+. I've used iPad 3, iPad 4, iPad Mini 2 and 4, Samsung Galaxy Tab S3, etc...

My experience? iPhone has much better standby time. Android used to have HORRID standby time (why, as this thread mentioned earlier, some people used Greenify or rooted (I did) - now that's all handled by the OS) -- still, My Samsung Galaxy Tab will sometimes last 3-5 days and sometimes, in one day it'll be dead without me touching it. My iPads could last weeks with my usage. The Nexus 6 was horrid on battery compared to the 6+ and the Pixel... well I can't really say anything about that cuz I didn't use it for more than a day.

Android is getting better. But to compare someone elses usage to your own is really unscientific. Android users at the airport hate me when I say I can get 5 days of usage out of my iPhone because they love to spout how terrible Apple battery life is... Meanwhile I'm handing them my Anker battery brick....

But my usage is super light and I don't use social apps. That seems to be my wife's biggest battery usage.
 
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On the iPad mine still shows the Twitter logo when I reopen Twitter and a screenshot of where I was before loading what is happening.

I think what you’re talking about is less fake multitasking and more Twitter being booted from memory for whatever reason on your iPad.
 

Tsepz

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I think what you’re talking about is less fake multitasking and more Twitter being booted from memory for whatever reason on your iPad.
Twitter is just 1 example, I see it with Safari and Apple Music to, though they don't have an opening logo, I can see that it has taken a screenshot to seem as if it's multitasking but it's not really doing any work in the background until I open it.
 

Michael Goff

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Twitter is just 1 example, I see it with Safari and Apple Music to, though they don't have an opening logo, I can see that it has taken a screenshot to seem as if it's multitasking but it's not really doing any work in the background until I open it.

I think I know what you’re talking about, and I still feel this is more Apple not throwing enough RAM at it. If Apple threw 6gb of RAM into the X, things would likely run different.

They won’t, though. I’d love it if the next iPhone had 4gb of RAM at the least.
 

Radon87000

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I think I know what you’re talking about, and I still feel this is more Apple not throwing enough RAM at it. If Apple threw 6gb of RAM into the X, things would likely run different.

They won’t, though. I’d love it if the next iPhone had 4gb of RAM at the least.
I bet the X Plus gets 4GB next year while the X will get 3GB and their budget LCD X will get 2GB.
 

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I bet the X Plus gets 4GB next year while the X will get 3GB and their budget LCD X will get 2GB.
Yet they claim they don't try to "Upsell" us. Yeah, sure Apple.

Same iOS, less resources to run it. It's obvious people will feel the pressure to get the "Better" model.
 

Radon87000

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Or not. 3gb is the minimum for the new models.
I doubt that because the LCD X is cheaper than the current 8 Plus and is using an inferior TFT LCD technology against IPS. If Apple is bringing the bezelless design and FaceID at that cheap price point you can bet they are going to cut corners in many places including ram. I am guessing it will cost $700 and come with 2 gigs.
 

I7guy

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I doubt that because the LCD X is cheaper than the current 8 Plus and is using an inferior TFT LCD technology against IPS. If Apple is bringing the bezelless design and FaceID at that cheap price point you can bet they are going to cut corners in many places including ram. I am guessing it will cost $700 and come with 2 gigs.
What lcd x? Can’t find that model anywhere on apples website. Oh, got it. We’re basing our facts on rumors, so we really don’t know what future models hold.
 
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