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mantan

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Wow that was hard to swallow!! I mean i have friends that have other iphones between 6,6s 6 plus but none of them has the drain issue on the battery! My question is simple : trying all the steps mentioned before, replacing the battery could fix something or not?!

There is a 60 thread post on this topic. It's clear that battery life is an issue for a lot of people. My wife, daughter, son
Most people aren't experiencing terrible battery life.

There is a 60(!) thread on a battery life and you're saying it's not an issue? And those are just the people who are members of MacRumors and bother to post. For the first time since iOS5, I didn't jump on the new version of the gate. I've asked friends, family members and coworkers the open ended question 'what do you think of iOS 10?'. The most common reply 'It's OK, but the battery life is worse.'

We all adjust to our 'new normal'. People complained about the major interface changes with iOS7. Eventually it became 'normal.' It didn't mean it was a poor upgrade. It just showedthat people eventually accepted that was what they had and moved on.

 

C DM

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There is a 60 thread post on this topic. It's clear that battery life is an issue for a lot of people. My wife, daughter, son


There is a 60(!) thread on a battery life and you're saying it's not an issue? And those are just the people who are members of MacRumors and bother to post. For the first time since iOS5, I didn't jump on the new version of the gate. I've asked friends, family members and coworkers the open ended question 'what do you think of iOS 10?'. The most common reply 'It's OK, but the battery life is worse.'

We all adjust to our 'new normal'. People complained about the major interface changes with iOS7. Eventually it became 'normal.' It didn't mean it was a poor upgrade. It just showedthat people eventually accepted that was what they had and moved on.
One short sentence in my post and you manage to completely miss or ignore the key words in it: "most" and "terrible".

(You also do realize that a good part of this thread isn't about battery issues but about simply people discussing their battery lives and responding to others. Furthermore, even from those that are seeing that things might be worse in comparison to some time in the past, aside from the fact that other factors beyond iOS can be involved, it's still a ways off from "terrible", which is one of the other things that my post was about.)
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It's what it sounds like. An article with tips doesn't change anything. There's one like that for basically any iOS version and any iPhone, or really for that matter pretty much any phone out there.
 
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deano1972

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Look what user Sammydad1 says here in the last paragraph:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...nd-enhancements.2037301/page-10#post-24416728
" I got replies from apple saying the rapid battery drain issue should have been resolved by beta 7"
Excuse me but I think some users will not even accept that there is a problem.
For me it is clear. There is a problem in iOS10 and i will wait Apple to solve it.
Wrong ..that thread you quoted is the 10.3 beta 7 thread .. beta software can be unstable and it's true there have been some beta testers reporting worse battery life on the 10.3 betas than on previous versions of iOS 10.
Apples response was to battery drain issues on early betas of iOS 10.3 not on iOS 10 in general
Cheers
 

pandi.ruvina

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So, according to this response from Apple, the only thing we can do is just sitting there with device without being used and seeing the battery draining in standby mode, just like that! Well done Apple, well done! If this is a strategy for buying new devices just creating issues on the old ones, than this might come to an end of using an iOS device anymore!!!
 

deano1972

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So, according to this response from Apple, the only thing we can do is just sitting there with device without being used and seeing the battery draining in standby mode, just like that! Well done Apple, well done! If this is a strategy for buying new devices just creating issues on the old ones, than this might come to an end of using an iOS device anymore!!!
Which response by Apple? The response to battery drain issues on early betas of 10.3?
Solution don't use betas use the release versions only of iOS.

I have no such issues on my iPhone 7 running iOS 10.2 .. battery life is actually very good!
 

pandi.ruvina

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Which response by Apple? The response to battery drain issues on early betas of 10.3?
Solution don't use betas use the release versions only of iOS.

I have no such issues on my iPhone 7 running iOS 10.2 .. battery life is actually very good!


Probably, but we are talking about an iPhone 7 like yours that should run perfectly on iOS 10.2, the newest device that came with the newest strategy, to create or ruin the battery on older devices, so one is feeling oppressed to purchase a new one! What about the older devices running latest iOS version? drain issue without being able to use device for a minimum of 35 minutes and standby only for 2 hrs! What can Apple do about this? What's the solution in this case? Nothing! Because they don't want to offer a solution for older devices! Only a bunch of articles and general tips claiming that the battery is optimised!
 

C DM

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So, according to this response from Apple, the only thing we can do is just sitting there with device without being used and seeing the battery draining in standby mode, just like that! Well done Apple, well done! If this is a strategy for buying new devices just creating issues on the old ones, than this might come to an end of using an iOS device anymore!!!
That response said nothing of the sort nor was it related to what you are experiencing, which appears to be some weird issue that is perhaps related to your particular device or setup or something of that sort and not something that is inherently broken in iOS and is this widespread.
 

pandi.ruvina

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That response said nothing of the sort nor was it related to what you are experiencing, which appears to be some weird issue that is perhaps related to your particular device or setup or something of that sort and not something that is inherently broken in iOS and is this widespread.


Maybe, but how is possible that some people are experiencing a high battery drain from the moment that the device was updated to iOS 10? No problems where before this update!! So, I may have issue with battery drain in iOS 10.2 (recently updated to the latest 10.2.1), but still nothing has improved or changed anything!! Why Apple doesn't do something about it?! Can iOS 10.3 beta maybe resolve something for old devices like iPhone 5S and later, or maybe give the chance to downgrade? I don't think so!
 

C DM

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Maybe, but how is possible that some people are experiencing a high battery drain from the moment that the device was updated to iOS 10? No problems where before this update!! So, I may have issue with battery drain in iOS 10.2 (recently updated to the latest 10.2.1), but still nothing has improved or changed anything!! Why Apple doesn't do something about it?! Can iOS 10.3 beta maybe resolve something for old devices like iPhone 5S and later, or maybe give the chance to downgrade? I don't think so!
Many things are possible certainly. And while some people have some issues here and there who is to say that Apple hasn't done anything or isn't working on something? There are likely people that still have some issues while others don't have them anymore. It doesn't really help those who are experiencing those issues (and they should continue troubleshooting and following up with Apple), but it also doesn't really mean that iOS 10 is just terrible with battery life for everyone (or even most).
 

pandi.ruvina

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Many things are possible certainly. And while some people have some issues here and there who is to say that Apple hasn't done anything or isn't working on something? There are likely people that still have some issues while others don't have them anymore. It doesn't really help those who are experiencing those issues (and they should continue troubleshooting and following up with Apple), but it also doesn't really mean that iOS 10 is just terrible with battery life for everyone (or even most).

To be honest, i'm not understanding anymore what to do with my device on this iOS version like 10.2.1 : should I replace the battery because even after trying all the possible tips and tricks and steps of optimising battery the drain issue still remains, or should I just simple sold out this device or exchange it with another one? Apple doesn't offer any possibilities, where I live there are no Apple related and Retail Store, so what to do in this case?
 

dobra94

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Hey there , i posted before about battery drain on my Iphone 6 , i think i found something . I told you guys before that it drains overnight 25 till 35% . If i put it on airplane mode the drain dissapears , this happened for me from updating it to 10.2.1 and it persists till 10.3 beta 6 ( to be remineded that i reset all setting , restored in DFU and still there , also battery wear is 0,6% , 4 months old phone ). And in normal use it drains pretty much than before 10.2.1 , Battery at 1% after 5,2 hours of use and 38 standby . Could ios 10.3 be a possible fix ?
 
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deano1972

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Hey there , i posted before about battery drain on my Iphone 6 , i think i found something . I told you guys before that it drains overnight 25 till 35% . If i put it on airplane mode the drain dissapears , this happened for me from updating it to 10.2.1 and it persists till 10.3 beta 6 ( to be remineded that i reset all setting , restored in DFU and still there , also battery wear is 0,6% , 4 months old phone ). And in normal use it drains pretty much than before 10.2.1 , Battery at 1% after 5,2 hours of use and 38 standby . Could ios 10.3 be a possible fix ?
I would wait for the final release version before updating to 10.3
On my old spare 5s battery drain is generally worse on 10.3 betas than on 10.2.1, although things have improved recently on the latest beta 7 and it's getting much closer to 10.2.1 again (which was actually fine on my 41 month old 5s with 23% battery wear).
 
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DeadKlau5

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iPhone 7, iOS 10.3 beta 7
is this good?
 

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C DM

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whoops, my bad, 12 %
Well, those stats would be around average or just a bit above it for a 7, which means that they would be at least a bit if not somewhat below average for a 7+. That said, it can certainly depend on what kind of a signal you had for a lot or even part of the time, and some other factors.
 

deano1972

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I'd say that's in the "above average" range even for an iPhone 7.
We'll agree to disagree there. I would say it's more 'normal'..,I've had 2 iphone 7's In total and my Mrs has one too.
My launch day 7 was faulty and suffered from 2% battery drain per hour that nothing would fix (even drained a similar amount whilst switched off). Despite this defect I could still get 7 or 8 hours usage over a full day (18 hours).
My Apple replacement iPhone 7 has well above average battery life certainly, it's doing a consistent up to 11 or 12 hours usage over 2 days average (depending on signal etc).
The Mrs has a September iPhone 7 with a build date the same week as my launch day one had and even though it doesn't quite compare with my 7 that still gets around 10 hours usage over 2 days on average.

From own experience and what I've seen online posted I conclude that 8 or 9 hours usage is typical from an iPhone 7
Cheers
 
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C DM

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We'll agree to disagree there. I would say it's more 'normal'..,I've had 2 iphone 7's In total and my Mrs has one too.
My launch day 7 was faulty and suffered from 2% battery drain per hour that nothing would fix (even drained a similar amount whilst switched off). Despite this defect I could still get 7 or 8 hours usage over a full day (18 hours).
My Apple replacement iPhone 7 has well above average battery life certainly, it's doing a consistent up to 11 or 12 hours usage over 2 days average (depending on signal etc).
The Mrs has a September iPhone 7 with a build date the same week as my launch day one had and even though it doesn't quite compare with my 7 that still gets around 10 hours usage over 2 days on average.

From own experience and what I've seen online posted I conclude that 8 or 9 hours usage is typical from an iPhone 7
Cheers
8 to 9 hours with under or around 24 hours since last charge is probably around average, but I'd say over 9 hours of use with almost 48 hours since last charge would be somewhat more in line with above average territory. I'm going based on my own iPhone 7 and a couple of of others in the family that I basically see on a daily basis and from what I've been seeing in various battery threads in relation to iPhone 7. It seems like personal experience might slant things to some degree, which can certainly put it all into more of an "agree to disagree" type of area.
 

deano1972

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8 to 9 hours with under or around 24 hours since last charge is probably around average, but I'd say over 9 hours of use with almost 48 hours since last charge would be somewhat more in line with above average territory. I'm going based on my own iPhone 7 and a couple of of others in the family that I basically see on a daily basis and from what I've been seeing in various battery threads in relation to iPhone 7. It seems like personal experience might slant things to some degree, which can certainly put it all into more of an "agree to disagree" type of area.
The extra days standby only really makes a significant difference though if you've spent a lot of time in a weak signal area or if your phone suffers from above normal standby drain. 'Normal' standby drain should only be around 6% of the battery over that extra 24 hours, if your losing much more than this it's time to look at what apps are draining it in the background or whether or not the phone has a fault or needs a dfu restore.
Cheers
 

smorrissey

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To be honest, i'm not understanding anymore what to do with my device on this iOS version like 10.2.1 : should I replace the battery because even after trying all the possible tips and tricks and steps of optimising battery the drain issue still remains, or should I just simple sold out this device or exchange it with another one? Apple doesn't offer any possibilities, where I live there are no Apple related and Retail Store, so what to do in this case?

I don't know man, you only know the answer to that but i pretty much know what Apple wants:

1) Are you using an iphone 7? if not buy one!
2) or buy a battery backup case
 
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