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FriendlyMackle

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Oct 29, 2011
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I got the Comply TW-200-C's on my BFP and it increased the isolation nicely, and I personally find them more enjoyable in the ear, but that might be subjective.
I ordered the Comply TW-200-C’s last night! I can’t wait to benef from the increased sound isolation and fullness (presumed). Just have to wait a couple of days…
 
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reig3

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May 30, 2017
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Has anyone used these on an airplane yet? I usually travel with my Bose QC 35's but would love to have a company alternative. I've used APP and was set to pick up a par but these came out and seem like they check all the boxes except for the cheap case. Are these contenders for air travel?
I got a set last week for my trip home from San Antonio. Sitting at the front of the wing and having less than perfect hearing I was pleasantly surprised that the engine noise was negligible. I watched a movie and could hear everything clearly at normal volume. I loved them! I hadn't had them long enough to do the seal test, just did that tonight. What I thought was good sound is even better after trying al the seals.
 

turbineseaplane

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Mar 19, 2008
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Well...

After some more time here I'm starting to wonder about these.

My right ear is not enjoying the wing tip for some reason. Each night I use these for an hour or two and I'm struggling to get the fit just right where the wing tip is staying where it should but also not pressing "too hard"

This AM I'm noticing that my ear is a bit sore from where that right wingtip makes contact.

Ugh. This is very conflicting. Glad I have more time to figure out what to do.
 

iBorn

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Nov 6, 2020
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Is there somewhere a source where you can find out when they are finally available in Europe/Germany?
 
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reig3

macrumors member
May 30, 2017
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Well...

After some more time here I'm starting to wonder about these.

My right ear is not enjoying the wing tip for some reason. Each night I use these for an hour or two and I'm struggling to get the fit just right where the wing tip is staying where it should but also not pressing "too hard"

This AM I'm noticing that my ear is a bit sore from where that right wingtip makes contact.

Ugh. This is very conflicting. Glad I have more time to figure out what to do.
Is it possible to maybe apply a little heat(hair dryer or hot water) to the wing to lessen the tension on the wing?
 
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turbineseaplane

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Mar 19, 2008
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Almost $300 without Apple logo, worth it?

No
Honestly I'd wait for sales (which always come for the Beats line anyhow)

They are good, but not earth shattering and honestly Apple puts all these kinds of products at unrealistic and overvalued MSRPs. I think they just like to price anchor hard with the MSRP so everything can be "ON SALE!!!!" at retailers and still net the pricing they actually are looking for.
 

ascender

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Dec 8, 2005
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I gave up waiting for these to launch in the UK so just ordered a pair from the US Apple Store to one of those onward-shipping firms. I'm trying to up my training again and after a couple of weeks have totally had enough of going to put my Powerbeats Pro headphones on, only to find that the right one hasn't charged.
 

Fatus_Asticus

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Oct 24, 2021
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I recently picked up some Beats Fit pros to check out as well as some Air Pods pro as I wasnted to compare both of them to my Bose QC buds.

Lets just say my Bose went on Ebay, the Air Pod pros are going back to Amazon and I'm keeping the Beats fit pros.

Bose has a deeper base, more tip size options but lacks some of the finer range in the high to middle. If all you do is put the Bose on you'll find yourself pretty happy with the results. The problem comes when you hear the Air pod pros or the beats and then put the Bose back on, the difference is pretty stark.

I like the Air pod pro, they were the pretty solid but I had issues with them staying in my air. I also had a love hate relationship with the clicker on the stick which would constantly get pressed when I was working out and trying to adjust the buds for the tenth plus time because of fit issues.

The sound quality between the Air pod pros and Best is similar but the Beats has just a touch more bass which makes it sound richer while keeping all the highs and mid range untouched.

I also feel like the beats stays in the ear a lot better and is more comfortable overall. The beats also get better battery life and have a standard tip so you can find replacement sizes easier. The button placement is better on the beats and the included tips / positioning of the ear bud makes it easier to keep in your ears vs the AirPods Pro.

The beats case does feels a bit flimsy, which is a downside but not one that would keep me from purchasing.

Overall I feel like the beats area clear winner. I'm using the silicon tips that came with beats and I've hacked out some of my AirPods Pro comply tips to make the size a bit larger by sticking the foam tips under the silicon. I have some replacement silicon XL tips coming via Amazon in a few days.


Overall the beats are a superior product and I'd expect the AirPods Pro refresh at the end of 2022 to incorporate many of the changes. Since that is a year away I feel like this is the sweet spot to buy the beats even if you might upgrade to the new pros. Very pleased with them.
 
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turbineseaplane

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Bose has a deeper base, more tip size options but lacks some of the finer range in the high to middle. If all you do is put the Bose on you'll find yourself pretty happy with the results. The problem comes when you hear the Air pod pros or the beats and then put the Bose back on, the difference is pretty stark.

Could not disagree more.

Did this exact same comparison and preferred the Bose over both others — easily.
Sound quality isn’t that close to me.

Bose wins hands down on sound quality and NC

This is all, obviously, quite subjective.
I recommend folks do their own comparisons and draw their own conclusions for sure.
 

Fatus_Asticus

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Oct 24, 2021
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Could not disagree more.

Did this exact same comparison and preferred the Bose over both others — easily.
Sound quality isn’t that close to me.

Bose wins hands down on sound quality and NC

This is all, obviously, quite subjective.
I recommend folks do their own comparisons and draw their own conclusions for sure.


Different strokes for sure. ANC is better on Bose, but I chalk that up to their tips. I have some new tips coming in for my beats I'll post when I get them. The AirPods Pro had a lack luster selection of tips which really surprised me but I guess it comes down to the tiny case which, IMO, was a silly design. Limited the tip size and also limited battery size.

Sound quality we can agree to disagree. I enjoyed the strong bass on Bose but feel the kids and highs are washed out some comparatively. Picking hairs here because they all sound pretty good.

All good though we are spoiled being able to choose between good products. The new Sony buds are even better but they felt heavy in my ears.
 

supergt

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Feb 22, 2019
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Bought and returned the beats fit pro. I found them to have slightly better sound quality and ANC than my AirPods Pro. But the tips bothered my ears so I could not get comfortable. Also tapping on the side buttons requires too much thought and finesse not to jam the bud further into the ear. The case is almost comically cheap and flimsy. I’m not sure it would survive as long as the ear buds. Overall not a bad product but needs refinement in my opinion.
 

Boardiesboi

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Sep 3, 2013
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Sydney Australia
Just had mine delivered this morning in Australia where these were just released – Apple estimated Monday so pretty stoked.

Quick first impressions:
- Case is smaller than expected. Same width as AirPods Pro case but slightly taller. This makes the Powerbeats Pro case look comically large
- Case isn't that solid as you guys have all said. The lid has a side wiggle and no satisfying magnetic snap like the APP.
- Feels lighter than the APP and the wing tips hold them securely in place
- Sounds almost the same as APP. Maybe a tiny bit more bass
- Transparency mode is almost the same

For $100 cheaper than APP, these are a no brainer. But obviously you can get APP on sale quite often.
 

turbineseaplane

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Mar 19, 2008
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- Feels lighter than the APP and the wing tips hold them securely in place

Definitely update us over time with the wing tips

For whatever reason, my right side ear always ended up getting "bothered" by the wing tip after 45 min or so.

Bose, IMO, has a better and more agreeable wingtip material and feel to the design.
Maybe the Beats one is more durable long term for workout users or something though?
 
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TJ82

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Mar 8, 2012
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Just had mine delivered this morning in Australia where these were just released – Apple estimated Monday so pretty stoked.

Quick first impressions:
- Case is smaller than expected. Same width as AirPods Pro case but slightly taller. This makes the Powerbeats Pro case look comically large
- Case isn't that solid as you guys have all said. The lid has a side wiggle and no satisfying magnetic snap like the APP.
- Feels lighter than the APP and the wing tips hold them securely in place
- Sounds almost the same as APP. Maybe a tiny bit more bass
- Transparency mode is almost the same

For $100 cheaper than APP, these are a no brainer. But obviously you can get APP on sale quite often.
How you finding NC compared to APP?
 

ice29

macrumors regular
Dec 9, 2016
187
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Got mine as well today (ordered from Apple directly here in Switzerland, already have APP and APM).
ANC - for me the same as APP (both are slightly better than APM), can't hear any difference
Transparency - would say 85-90% of APP, lacks treble a bit
Music quality - clearly better than APP, the bass is very nice, listening to "Adagio in G minor" in Atmos, from Apple Music, is muuuch better than APP (almost on par with APM, though APM sound generally better, obviously)
Voice quality - clearly worse than APP, would not use these for all-day telcos where I have to speak a lot (though also when being in calls with APP/APM I use either Macbook mic when in the office or external mic when sitting in my home-office, any BT-headphone-mic will sound crap compared to external one)
Comfort - I can feel the tips, but they don't cause any pain so far, will probably start to ignore them after some time...

Case quality - I don't really care, the APP one is also not beautifully made (lid wiggles slightly), a pity it's bigger though (but this can't be avoided)
 
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