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Daremo

macrumors 68020
Jul 3, 2007
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Chicago
i'm with you however, i think that you are forgetting one very important variable. people will pay what they believe it's worth given their notion of the perceived value according to their "situation"

you gave an example of a music band offering music online and allowing fans to pay whatever, but i wouldn't be surprised if that band's "market" base consisted of "kids" who don't have a whole lot of money. it's all about expectations and those expectations differ depending on the group in question.

i was recently in philadelphia and my girlfriend and i went to the philadelphia museum and they have a system where on that day you could "voluntarily" pay whatever you wanted for admission, you could even pay nothing if you wanted to and still get a ticket. out of curiosity i hung out at the ticket center to see what would happen. almost everyone who got a ticket paid the regular ticket price. however, keep in mind the people going in were adults (with the expectation that they were going to pay full admission anyway) and people with an appreciation for the arts and a desire to support the arts. in fact i didn't observe anyone who didn't pay anything.

the problem with the app store and the iphone user base, is that you have a lot of "kids" or non kids who feel that anything that isn't a game should be "free". that's the expectation that they have. unfortunately, they're also more vocal than all others. so you hear their complaints more often

It's attitude as well. Radio Head stated that a lot of dirtbags would send them a penny, or 2 cents... That's just being a jagoff, any way you slice it. As far as I'm concerned, if someone has to complain about an app being .99, you shouldn't own a cell phone, let alone an iPhone. I do understand that $16 is a premium price, but there ARE free alternatives. The problem is, people want ALL the features that the premium app has, included in the free versions. I'm very happy the review system now only allows for people to comment who actually paid for the app.
 

macbookairman

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 15, 2008
903
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Nebraska
I've noticed many of you mentioning push email with yahoo. I have a yahoo mail account, and didn't know it had push. Do you have to have yahoo mail plus for that? Currently my iPod Touch 2G with my yahoo mail account only gives me an option of manual and fetch (i use 15 minutes), whereas my MobileMe account has the option of push.
 

okrelayer

macrumors 6502a
May 25, 2008
983
4
hmm. settings/fetch new data and set it to push.

then go to email settings and manually set your yahoo account to push.. i assume?

I hope that helps. not sure why its acting up. I dont have any yahoo plus or whatnot
 

macbookairman

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 15, 2008
903
11
Nebraska
hmm. settings/fetch new data and set it to push.

then go to email settings and manually set your yahoo account to push.. i assume?

I hope that helps. not sure why its acting up. I dont have any yahoo plus or whatnot

i have my phone set to fetch new date with push. but when i go to the yahoo account settings, there is only a manual and fetch option...
 

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ryanwarsaw

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Apr 7, 2007
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Put your Yahoo account into mail and then go into settings. Look for beejive sttings, under beejive settings turn push email alert on and enter the Yahoo account you want to use.
 

chris3g

macrumors member
Jul 10, 2008
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that won't solve the problem if your phone is still set to fetch, you'll just get your beejive notifications at your set fetch interval.

The problem is probably in how you added your yahoo account to your phone originally. Did you add it to the phone by syncing with itunes or by manually entering the server information? Add a new mail account on your iphone and use the yahoo icon to set it up and you should have push as an option.
 

macbookairman

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 15, 2008
903
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Nebraska
that won't solve the problem if your phone is still set to fetch, you'll just get your beejive notifications at your set fetch interval.

The problem is probably in how you added your yahoo account to your phone originally. Did you add it to the phone by syncing with itunes or by manually entering the server information? Add a new mail account on your iphone and use the yahoo icon to set it up and you should have push as an option.

wait a second....is the push for yahoo only available on the iPhone? Cause I have the iPod Touch 2G and I set my account up on my iPod Touch, and I didn't have that option.
 

Jayden0606

macrumors 6502
Jul 28, 2008
266
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Bergen County, NJ
that won't solve the problem if your phone is still set to fetch, you'll just get your beejive notifications at your set fetch interval.

The problem is probably in how you added your yahoo account to your phone originally. Did you add it to the phone by syncing with itunes or by manually entering the server information? Add a new mail account on your iphone and use the yahoo icon to set it up and you should have push as an option.

To add to that, did you add ymail for yahoo? or the other .com for yahoo?
 

chris3g

macrumors member
Jul 10, 2008
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wait a second....is the push for yahoo only available on the iPhone? Cause I have the iPod Touch 2G and I set my account up on my iPod Touch, and I didn't have that option.

oh, yeah it won't work for you then, yahoo only pushes over the cellular network connection.
 

chris3g

macrumors member
Jul 10, 2008
61
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Is that true? I've been going nuts over getting it to work at home... if it's because I was on wifi I'm going to be piiiiissed ... haha

You can be connected to wifi but you need a cellular signal to receive push email. Mobileme push can work over wifi only, but only if you have the proper ports forwarded to your device, either manually or with upnp.
 

Lictor

macrumors 6502
Sep 13, 2008
383
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They would certainly be able to support the costs of servers/royalties and what have you (that crossword puzzle app at $2.99 made like $16,000 one week, right?), so it's obvious their price has been chosen based on greed and I for one will not contribute.

You realise that $16,000 in one week is not really impressive for a company right? It's a very nice amount of money for a student or someone doing it as a side job. It's also very nice amount for someone self-employed. But for a real company, it is just what is expected to keep going while paying the salaries, the rent, the bills...
Since they don't exist only on the iPhone market, they're considering all their sources of income. Developing for a new platform costs money. That's an investment. If that investment doesn't bring as much money as a similar investment on another platform, it's just not worth it...

As for greed, well, surprise, it seems you just discovered a basic truth. Private business is all about greed, in the end, money is the only thing that matters. A private business that is not about greed usually ends belly up. If you don't want greed, you have to consider NGO, Fair Trade and the like...
 

Lictor

macrumors 6502
Sep 13, 2008
383
21
Regardless, I did some messing around and ss it turns out the issue is due to Categories - when I have it in a folder the icon is square, when I remove it and have it on the main springboard its rounded. Apparently (and I never noticed before because I didn't have any of the apps in Categories) but about half of my icons will show square if used in Categories - AND NONE ARE PIRATED.

That kind of make sense. On the iPhone, all the icons are squared, the developers are supposed to deliver them this way. The rounding and the "shine" rendition of the icon is handled on the fly by the iPhone. So, if you're messing up in some way with how the iPhone usually displays the icons, which I guess is what Categories do, they will appear in their original shape.
 

tongteh

macrumors 6502
Aug 16, 2008
415
4
wow, this application really worth every penny!! at first i kept on hesitating whether to buy this application, until a 10minutes ago i clicked on the purchased button!! i must say everything is looking very good now, the best IM application available in app store at the moment..
 

Digipimp

macrumors regular
Jun 17, 2003
190
0
Texas
Is that true? I've been going nuts over getting it to work at home... if it's because I was on wifi I'm going to be piiiiissed ... haha

youre being told all the wrong information, yahoo mail pushes regardless of your connection, anyone that says otherwise doesnt know what they're talking about. you can receive it on wifi, edge, 3g or whatever, that doesnt even factor into it working.

yahoo mail pushes on its own, you need to just add the yahoo mail account through your iphone by selecting that its a yahoo mail account and it will work on its own after. theres not a setting that you need to adjust to make it happen, it just does.
 

okrelayer

macrumors 6502a
May 25, 2008
983
4
and one day later .. its still awesome, waking up and knowing that my aim account has been on all day, and i dont have to worry about anything. Folks if your sitting on the fence, but you want a program to work as well as mobilechat should have worked, and you like chatting while your activly doing other things on your iPhone or iPod Touch get this app ASAP.
 

smeagol

macrumors regular
Jul 14, 2003
140
90
New York
I've noticed many of you mentioning push email with yahoo. I have a yahoo mail account, and didn't know it had push. Do you have to have yahoo mail plus for that? Currently my iPod Touch 2G with my yahoo mail account only gives me an option of manual and fetch (i use 15 minutes), whereas my MobileMe account has the option of push.


I believe yahoo push is only available for the iPhone, not sure about the touch. Also push doesn't really make a difference on the touch because there is no constant connection to the internet, you would only get push availability when you're in wifi range which kinda defeats the purpose. Maybe one day we'll have a touch with a data only constantly on connection for $20 or so per month.
 

OneMike

macrumors 603
Oct 19, 2005
5,832
1,810
After getting a chance to test it out pretty extensively I do somewhat change my mind. Interface is nice and it's very feature packed. Everything pretty much works as it should.

For being a first release in app store this is more solid then the other apps that have already had updates.

Still though the best feature to me is the ability to stay logged in for up to 24 hours. If iPhone apps could / ever can run in background I wonder how that would/would've affected price.
 

tongteh

macrumors 6502
Aug 16, 2008
415
4
is it just me or everyone else get the keyboard lag as well?? it's not just 1 time, but quite frequent.. using MSN live messenger on beejive
 

chris3g

macrumors member
Jul 10, 2008
61
0
youre being told all the wrong information, yahoo mail pushes regardless of your connection, anyone that says otherwise doesnt know what they're talking about. you can receive it on wifi, edge, 3g or whatever, that doesnt even factor into it working.

yahoo mail pushes on its own, you need to just add the yahoo mail account through your iphone by selecting that its a yahoo mail account and it will work on its own after. theres not a setting that you need to adjust to make it happen, it just does.


put your phone on airplane mode, then go back into the settings and turn wifi back on manually and connect to your network. People thinks it works on wifi because you are connected to wifi at the time, but the push still comes through over 3G or EDGE. Completely disable your cellular radios and you will see that it doesn't work, which not coincidently is the reason that push is not an option for yahoo on the iPod Touch.
 
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