Best alternative to iPhone?

[LFC2020]

I can go out with my $100 Motorola phone without worrying that the battery will run out and my friend can't go out on her $500 iPhone SE without worrying that the battery will run out.

Don’t know if you’re being serious at the moment, comparing a $100 phone that is obsolete as soon as it hit the market, most likely not good at doing anything, to a iPhone SE that has the second best processor on the market behind the A14 and will easily get 6 years software updates.

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Priced starting at $399, the ‌iPhone SE‌ has been selling well in both postpaid and prepaid channels. More than 30 percent of ‌iPhone SE‌ buyers were upgrading from an ‌iPhone‌ 6s or older, and more than 26 percent of ‌iPhone SE‌ users came from an Android device, which Counterpoint says is a higher than normal Android to iOS switch rate.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Iphone SE costs more than the Pixel 4a and is inferior in every way besides processor and water resistance. Plus you are paying $400 for a 720p display which is a joke.

 

[The_Interloper]

Plus you are paying $400 for a 720p display which is a joke.

A bezeltastic 4.7 inch 720p LCD display with 7 year-old design. Don't forget you can still buy a new iPhone 11 with higher-res 6.1" notchtastic 828p LCD for the bargain price of $600 - complete with a whopping 64Gb storage!

 

[LFC2020]

Iphone SE costs more than the Pixel 4a and is inferior in every way besides processor and water resistance. Plus you are paying $400 for a 720p display which is a joke.

While the SE is getting software updates for 5-6 years, you’ll have to buy another pixel because of its 3 year software updates, so in the end the pixel ends up costing you way more than a SE.

iPhone SEs are selling very well don’t see any complaints about the 720p display. XR and 11 had the same display and they were both the best selling phones each year.

Apple calibration for their LCD panels is unmatched, right up there with oled displays.

 

[LFC2020]

Don't forget you can still buy a new iPhone 11 with higher-res 6.1" notchtastic 828p LCD for the bargain price of $600 - complete with a whopping 64Gb storage!

You were saying. ?

Seems like the world doesn’t agree with you.

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[The_Interloper]

You were saying. ?

Seems like the world doesn’t agree with you.

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So what? Since when has mass market sales equated to something being better? Was Windows Me or Vista better than MacOS at the time because 90% of the world used it? Limp Bizkit sold 40 million albums - does that change the fact they're garbage?

This thread is called "Best alternative to iPhone?" in a forum section called "Alternatives to iOS". Why are you here? You are contributing nothing to the actual discussion title, just religiously banging on about how awesome the iPhone is and why no-one should consider anything else. Or are you just trolling for the sake of it?

Either way, this thread has been comprehensively ruined as any attempt to stick to the topic and actually discuss what's in the title is now impossible by the constant iPhone cheerleading.

 

[ian87w]

Still think if you’re going to buy a cheap android phone the pixel 4a is the only option if you are looking in that 299-399 price range. Best android phone by far for the price

No it's not, at least if you're outside the US.
Let's take the Pixel 4a's US MSRP, $349. For that price, I can get:

- Samsung Galaxy A71. Same chip, larger 6.7" screen, ultra wide lens, larger battery, also 4 years of security updates.
- Poco X3 NFC. Slightly better chip SD732G, 6.7" 120Hz screen, ultra wide lens, 5000mAh battery, IP53, and actually $100 less.
- Mi 10T. Snapdragon 865, 144Hz screen, ultrawide lens, wifi6, 5000mAh battery, and only $70 more.

Stock Android is overrated. It cannot even do basic things like twin/dual apps, native call recording, and other Android features that are standard on the other OEMs.

I'm Android fan basically because Android has excellent offerings on all price range. But the Pixel ain't it, and defending Pixel phones as if it's the "best" Android phone is no different than iPhone fans defending iPhones. The whole point of Android is the diversity, not a single device "as intended by the OS maker." You want that feeling, get an iPhone.

 

[ian87w]

I believe the OP him/herself already got the solutions he/she needed.

As for a larger theme of best alternative to iPhone, imo one has to consider the ecosystem. The basics are a phone, tablet, computer, and a wearable. From Apple, they are iPhone, iPad, Mac, and Apple Watch.

At this point, imo Samsung is in the best position to be the comparable alternative, since they have Galaxy phone, Galaxy tab, laptop, and Galaxy Watch. Samsung also works closely with Microsoft to offer tighter integration of Windows and Samsung devices, so the laptop part can be any Windows laptop.

Huawei was (is) the best second alternative, as they also have phone, tablet, laptop, and wearable. Huawei even has Airdrop-like feature within Huawei devices. But the US ban happened.

Xiaomi is a distant third, they have phones and wearables, but their laptops are mainly in China only, and they are not that focused on tablets.

Lenovo had the potential with phones, tablets (under Lenovo brand), computers, and wearables (Moto 360), but they just don't seem to have the vision nor motivation to actually create an ecosystem.

 

[iHorseHead]

Don’t know if you’re being serious at the moment, comparing a $100 phone that is obsolete as soon as it hit the market, most likely not good at doing anything, to a iPhone SE that has the second best processor on the market behind the A14 and will easily get 6 years software updates.

?

Priced starting at $399, the ‌iPhone SE‌ has been selling well in both postpaid and prepaid channels. More than 30 percent of ‌iPhone SE‌ buyers were upgrading from an ‌iPhone‌ 6s or older, and more than 26 percent of ‌iPhone SE‌ users came from an Android device, which Counterpoint says is a higher than normal Android to iOS switch rate.

I gotta ask you, why do you come here? The topic of is "Best alternative to iPhone"
Do you have learning disabilities or something?

 

[jamezr]

You were saying.

Seems like the world doesn’t agree with you.

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So McDonald’s sell more burgers than anyone else....does make them the best burgers! Nope it doesn’t

 

[jamezr]

I gotta ask you, why do you come here? The topic of is "Best alternative to iPhone"
Do you have learning disabilities or something?

We all just have to report him for trolling. He is only here to take things off topic and rile people up. He has been suspended once already

 

[aggie99]

We all just have to report him for trolling. He is only here to take things off topic and rile people up. He has been suspended once already

Also, the ignore feature works really well ?

 

[Awesomesince86]

We all just have to report him for trolling. He is only here to take things off topic and rile people up. He has been suspended once already

I wouldnt hold your breath. The mods around here have an odd way of dealing with things. I posted in this thread (or maybe the S21 thread) about the mods cleaning it up and getting him out of there. What did they do? Removed my post, did nothing else.

 

[geraldem]

This is one of the reasons I use both an S21 Ultra and iPhone 12 PM.
They both take great pictures. But my iPhone cannot compete with Samsung on zoom right now.

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Same boat...struggling to pick one for the same reasons

 

[jamezr]

I wouldnt hold your breath. The mods around here have an odd way of dealing with things. I posted in this thread (or maybe the S21 thread) about the mods cleaning it up and getting him out of there. What did they do? Removed my post, did nothing else.

You have to report individual posts. Not just the thread in general. They have taken recent action against him and the other troll have been suspended in the last few weeks.

 

[Awesomesince86]

You have to report individual posts. Not just the thread in general. They have taken recent action against him and the other troll have been suspended in the last few weeks.

I know and I have. Im just saying in general I've noticed inconsistent intervention from mods here. Just based on when they decide to step in and what posts they decide to remove.

But hey, I'm not the one doing the job so who am I to criticize.

 

[LFC2020]

I know and I have. Im just saying in general I've noticed inconsistent intervention from mods here. Just based on when they decide to step in and what posts they decide to remove.

But hey, I'm not the one doing the job so who am I to criticize.

Didn’t know that replying to someone’s post in a civil matter while staying on topic, is considered trolling. ?‍♂️

 

[The Game 161]

This is one of the reasons I use both an S21 Ultra and iPhone 12 PM.
They both take great pictures. But my iPhone cannot compete with Samsung on zoom right now.

Tech_Lust on Instagram: "Zoom Test Galaxy Note 20 Ultrai VS iPhone 12 Pro Max ▫️ 📷 Credit : @aaa_tsushi_ ▫️ Like ❤️ Share 🔄 comment 💬 ▫️ Follow @technicallust 🔥🔥🔥 Follow @technicallust 🔥🔥🔥 ▫️ Dm for credit or removal #iphone12promax #iphoneconcept

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12 pro Max and S21 Ultra really is the ultimate combo. I would say these are the two best phones on the market and to have both is really the best of both worlds.

 

[JagRunner]

It's hard to take people serious that say the iPhone is flawless lol

I've had nothing but iPhones since I think the 4s or maybe 5 - I can't remember. But they are not flawless. I have had some kind of issue with every phone or iOS update ever. Nothing is flawless. I always encounter some kind of bug.

My current issue on my 12 Pro is that the home button gesture is glitchy. I can be in an app and when I swipe up to go back to the home screen sometimes it is frozen and won't do anything. I have to press the on/off switch to get it to "reset" and let me swipe up to home again.

At this point it comes down to personal preference. They all do the same crap. What keeps me in the Apple ecosystem is being able to have my Macbook Pro, iPad, iPhone, and Apple Watch all synced together. That is the #1 reason I stay.

 

[t1328]

It's hard to take people serious that say the iPhone is flawless lol

I've had nothing but iPhones since I think the 4s or maybe 5 - I can't remember. But they are not flawless. I have had some kind of issue with every phone or iOS update ever. Nothing is flawless. I always encounter some kind of bug.

My current issue on my 12 Pro is that the home button gesture is glitchy. I can be in an app and when I swipe up to go back to the home screen sometimes it is frozen and won't do anything. I have to press the on/off switch to get it to "reset" and let me swipe up to home again.

At this point it comes down to personal preference. They all do the same crap. What keeps me in the Apple ecosystem is being able to have my Macbook Pro, iPad, iPhone, and Apple Watch all synced together. That is the #1 reason I stay.

Agreed. But honestly none of these phones are flawless, and if we keep chasing a phone that doesn’t have some issues, we’ll never settle on any of them.

 

[bubulol]

I believe the OP him/herself already got the solutions he/she needed.

As for a larger theme of best alternative to iPhone, imo one has to consider the ecosystem. The basics are a phone, tablet, computer, and a wearable. From Apple, they are iPhone, iPad, Mac, and Apple Watch.

At this point, imo Samsung is in the best position to be the comparable alternative, since they have Galaxy phone, Galaxy tab, laptop, and Galaxy Watch. Samsung also works closely with Microsoft to offer tighter integration of Windows and Samsung devices, so the laptop part can be any Windows laptop.

Huawei was (is) the best second alternative, as they also have phone, tablet, laptop, and wearable. Huawei even has Airdrop-like feature within Huawei devices. But the US ban happened.

Xiaomi is a distant third, they have phones and wearables, but their laptops are mainly in China only, and they are not that focused on tablets.

Lenovo had the potential with phones, tablets (under Lenovo brand), computers, and wearables (Moto 360), but they just don't seem to have the vision nor motivation to actually create an ecosystem.

The best ecosystem is cherry picking on every ecosystem lol
Even if i belong to the Apple ecosystem (mainly), i m still open the doors for others devices
Ecosystem holds you back
I am not that guy, buy Apple, buy every Apple device? not my kind
Pick whatever you seem be good for you and not focus/prioritize on ecosystem
Apple provide strong connection between their devices in order to get the best synergy for the ecosystem but at what cost?
They often restrict the possibilities when you will use their device out of their own ecosystem

 

[Luke2642]

I'd second the Pixel suggestions, and defend Samsung on one front: the Note 9. Second hand, it is incredible value. The pen is excellent, and I use it every day or two for sketching ideas. The huge OLED screen is perfect. In the 'old days' the Gear VR with a Note 9 is was also the best VR experience to be had, as it had oculus store library and many excellent games (Rush is still a favourite). But now the Quest 2 knocks it out of the park, and Gear VR is getting retired.

 

[JagRunner]

The best ecosystem is cherry picking on every ecosystem lol
Even if i belong to the Apple ecosystem (mainly), i m still open the doors for others devices
Ecosystem holds you back
I am not that guy, buy Apple, buy every Apple device? not my kind
Pick whatever you seem be good for you and not focus/prioritize on ecosystem
Apple provide strong connection between their devices in order to get the best synergy for the ecosystem but at what cost?
They often restrict the possibilities when you will use their device out of their own ecosystem

Yeah, ecosystem does hold you back somewhat. But I have no problems leaving the Apple Ecosystem if they do something I don't like. Who knows, 5 years from now I may think a Samsung phone is better for me and I wouldn't have a problem switching. But right now I'm happy with what I have. It fits my basic phone needs.

 

[ian87w]

The best ecosystem is cherry picking on every ecosystem lol
Even if i belong to the Apple ecosystem (mainly), i m still open the doors for others devices
Ecosystem holds you back
I am not that guy, buy Apple, buy every Apple device? not my kind
Pick whatever you seem be good for you and not focus/prioritize on ecosystem
Apple provide strong connection between their devices in order to get the best synergy for the ecosystem but at what cost?
They often restrict the possibilities when you will use their device out of their own ecosystem

Ideally, yes, but in reality, it's not possible.
For example, there are no wearables that work as well as the Apple Watch on the iPhone. And iPhone integration with Windows PCs is barebones at best. Android working with Macs is possible, but will mostly rely on cloud services. Even Samsung is restricting compatibilities of some of its devices to only work with Samsung phones, not even other Android phones.

The easiest is to not be trapped in the ecosystem in the first place. Downside is, you probably won't get the niceties, but at least you keep your device choices open.

 

[ColdShadow]

iPhone including its camera is perfect if you are happy with the very basics.(a casual user) it’s just the way they are,less features/ less issues.

They just refine essential features,whereas a flagship Android phone now has better features and use newer tech.
For camera Apple’s 12 Pro Max is a great point and shoot but very basic.

I’d go for Samsung S21 Ultra if you care about camera.it has powerful zoom and close up macro,iPhone don’t give you that.
unlike Apple’s Mac,Apple iPhone is for casual users and lacks features and always behind when it comes to new technology.

I’ve owned maybe 7-8 iPhones and maybe 4-5 flagship Androids mostly Samsung.
this always been the case.