Best alternative to iPhone?

[ian87w]

iPhone including its camera is perfect if you are happy with the very basics.(a casual user) it’s just the way they are,less features/ less issues.

They just refine essential features,whereas a flagship Android phone now has better features and use newer tech.
For camera Apple’s 12 Pro Max is a great point and shoot but very basic.

I’d go for Samsung S21 Ultra if you care about camera.it has powerful zoom and close up macro,iPhone don’t give you that.
unlike Apple’s Mac,Apple iPhone is for casual users and lacks features and always behind when it comes to new technology.

I’ve owned maybe 7-8 iPhones and maybe 4-5 flagship Androids mostly Samsung.
this always been the case.

I somewhat disagree. If you are only talking about the stock camera app, I agree. iPhone only offers the basic features, while stock camera apps on Android OEMs offer a lot of fancy camera modes. However, when we are talking about professional use, iPhones are preferred due to Apple providing APIs and consistent hardware that allows pro apps to hook into the more advance hardware features like pro raw. It is more confusing on Android world since each OEM are doing their own thing, and Google's own camera API is lacking.

Filmic Pro is a great example. It works more consistently on iPhones, while there are features that are broken here and there on Android, depending on the device used.

 

[Luke2642]

Do any iPhone users not wish there was a pen for sketching ideas? To me that's a killer feature worth switching an entire ecosystem for. Surely there would be just as many pen lovers as watch lovers, if it were an iPhone option?

On another note, only waterproof iPhones are worth considering. Disregard all others. It's 2021, not 1990 ?

 

[Robbosan]

Do any iPhone users not wish there was a pen for sketching ideas? To me that's a killer feature worth switching an entire ecosystem for. Surely there would be just as many pen lovers as watch lovers, if it were an iPhone option?

On another note, only waterproof iPhones are worth considering. Disregard all others. It's 2021, not 1990 ?

Nope too small a screen, did try the pencil with my 11" pro for work, but preferred the good old pen and diary myself.

 

[tmmacops]

Do any iPhone users not wish there was a pen for sketching ideas? To me that's a killer feature worth switching an entire ecosystem for. Surely there would be just as many pen lovers as watch lovers, if it were an iPhone option?

On another note, only waterproof iPhones are worth considering. Disregard all others. It's 2021, not 1990 ?

I have a Note 20 Ultra (and iPhone Pro Max). I’ve used the pen 4 or 5 times to doodle and mess around. I thought I’d use it for notes, etc but never happened.

Everyone’s use case is different though. Some use the pen constantly and love it. I just never found a use for it.

 

[t1328]

Do any iPhone users not wish there was a pen for sketching ideas? To me that's a killer feature worth switching an entire ecosystem for. Surely there would be just as many pen lovers as watch lovers, if it were an iPhone option?

On another note, only waterproof iPhones are worth considering. Disregard all others. It's 2021, not 1990

I owned Notes and wasn’t ever really able to use the pen effectively for taking notes. The canvas is just too small. I use an iPad Pro 12.9 with the Apple Pencil and that works well, as does a Surface Pro tablet. I did however love using the S Pen for really accurate text selection or lasso of images and things like that. I miss that part, but not enough to justify it. I’ll put it another way. I use the iPhone 12 Pro Max, and a big part of me is tempted to switch to the Samsung S21 for the screen refresh, customization etc. But if I did, I wouldn’t bother paying extra for the pen.

 

[LFC2020]

Nope too small a screen, did try the pencil with my 11" pro for work, but preferred the good old pen and diary myself.

Agree, stupid idea for a small screen, another gimmick

 

[The Game 161]

I like the Apple Pencil but since I moved to using the iPad with magic keyboard I just don't use it. given the pencil to the wife who uses it to nav more than I would

 

[iHorseHead]

Samsung Galaxy A72 will come out soon. That seems to be a pretty good phone.
The main issue me and everyone else, including my father have with iPhones is the battery life. It's really an issue and even at 80% tear iPhones randomly shut down outside while you can still use Samsung and other brands.

Everyone I know in real life complain about the battery lives of iPhones.

 

[LFC2020]

It's really an issue and even at 80% tear iPhones randomly shut down

Really? ?‍♂️? never heard one person say this. Must have a faulty iPhone.

My iPhone never shuts down unless it hits 0% ?‍♂️

 

[iHorseHead]

Really? ?‍♂️? never heard one person say this. Must have a faulty iPhone.

My iPhone never shuts down unless it hits 0% ?‍♂️

Faulty iPhones **
Its not only one person that has had this problem. All of my coworkers have had this problem as well and me too.
As I said before, many Androids have better battery lives than iPhones. For the life of me, I can't understand how Apple can't make a normal battery for iPhone.
And please, stop using emojis. It's one of the main reasons I've ignored you.

 

[LFC2020]

Faulty iPhones **
Its not only one person that has had this problem. All of my coworkers have had this problem as well and me too.
As I said before, many Androids have better battery lives than iPhones. For the life of me, I can't understand how Apple can't make a normal battery for iPhone.
And please, stop using emojis. It's one of the main reasons I've ignored you.

Last time I checked my iPhone 12 Pro Max had a normal battery, it also has the best battery life out of any smartphone out there??

Not only does apple make normal batteries, they also make them smaller than the completion and iPhones still destroy the completion when it comes to real world battery usage. ?

Same goes for their M1 Macs, iPads. ??

 

[iHorseHead]

Can you honestly turn down on emojis?
iPhone 12 Pro Max doesn't have the best battery life. What are you smoking?

Even your favourite YouTuber doesn't think so.

Real world usage? As iPhone turning itself off when you go outside, because it's too "cold"? Real world usage like iPhones battery dropping from 80% to 1%?

Not even my Huawei Sonic does that and that phone is from 2010 and was already awful when it was released.

 

[LFC2020]

Can you honestly turn down on emojis?
iPhone 12 Pro Max doesn't have the best battery life. What are you smoking?

Even your favourite YouTuber doesn't think so.

Real world usage? As iPhone turning itself off when you go outside, because it's too "cold"? Real world usage like iPhones battery dropping from 80% to 1%?

Not even my Huawei Sonic does that and that phone is from 2010 and was already awful when it was released.

That is a useless YouTube video, no one uses their phone that way, no android phone on the market comes close to the 11-12 pro max, when it comes to real world battery life.

 

[iHorseHead]

That is a useless YouTube video, no one uses their phone that way, no android phone on the market comes close to the 11-12 pro max, when it comes to real world battery life.

Yes, no other Android phone drops its battery from 50% to 1% within seconds and turns itself off without any warning. No other Android phone on the market does this. I agree.

 

[LFC2020]

Yes, no other Android phone drops its battery from 50% to 1% within seconds and turns itself off without any warning. No other Android phone on the market does this. I agree.

?‍♂️?‍♂️?‍♂️

Fake news.

In the 11 years I've used iPhones, this has never happened to me.

Any other false information you'd like to share? ?

 

[iHorseHead]

?‍♂️?‍♂️?‍♂️

Fake news.

In the 11 years I've used iPhones, this has never happened to me.

Any other false information you'd like to share? ?

Its not fake. Why would I lie?
You live in Australia. This problem mostly occurs during the winter. So you've never used Android?

All of my friends have this problem as well. It just turns itself off even when your battery is 90% and even if you keep it in a pocket. When I lived in Malta I wasn't able to use it either because of the temperature (then it was too hot).

Only great Apple products are iPods, Macs and iPads, but not iPhones. MacBooks have an amazing battery life.

 

[LFC2020]

Its not fake. Why would I lie?
You live in Australia. This problem mostly occurs during the winter. So you've never used Android?

Last time I checked we get winter here as well.

Plenty of people around the world using iPhones during winter, not seeing any lawsuits popping up.

Apple is really going to release a iPhone that can't be used during winter. ?‍♂️?

 

[Shanghaichica]

Do any iPhone users not wish there was a pen for sketching ideas? To me that's a killer feature worth switching an entire ecosystem for. Surely there would be just as many pen lovers as watch lovers, if it were an iPhone option?

On another note, only waterproof iPhones are worth considering. Disregard all others. It's 2021, not 1990 ?

Yes I’ve said this for years. I want Apple Pencil support for my iPhone.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I owned Notes and wasn’t ever really able to use the pen effectively for taking notes. The canvas is just too small. I use an iPad Pro 12.9 with the Apple Pencil and that works well, as does a Surface Pro tablet. I did however love using the S Pen for really accurate text selection or lasso of images and things like that. I miss that part, but not enough to justify it. I’ll put it another way. I use the iPhone 12 Pro Max, and a big part of me is tempted to switch to the Samsung S21 for the screen refresh, customization etc. But if I did, I wouldn’t bother paying extra for the pen.

I want the Pen but I wouldn’t switch to Samsung for the pen. The pen has to come to the iPhone.

 

[LFC2020]

Yes I’ve said this for years. I want Apple Pencil support for my iPhone.

? tried using the s pen on a note 10 plus, didn’t feel comfortable at all, screen isn’t big enough, rather apple not sacrifice a larger battery because of a stylus, that stylus has to go somewhere, apple will shrink the battery so the stylus can slide into the phone. ??

 

[Shanghaichica]

? tried using the s pen on a note 10 plus, didn’t feel comfortable at all, screen isn’t big enough, rather apple not sacrifice a larger battery because of a stylus, that pen has to go somewhere, apple will shrink the battery so the stylus can slide into the phone. ??

I just like it for colouring lol I can’t draw. Obviously even for colouring my iPad Pro and iPad mini are better and I have an Apple Pencil for each one. However I also had the note 10 plus for 8 days. I liked the idea of being able to pull out my phone and do a bit of colouring no matter where I was. That’s why I want an Apple Pencil for the iPhone.

 

[Robbosan]

Last time I checked we get winter here as well.

Plenty of people around the world using iPhones during winter, not seeing any lawsuits popping up.

Apple is really going to release a iPhone that can't be used during winter. ?‍♂️?

Those threads linked were from 3-5 years ago iP6 and 6S, lol. Old mate has short memory Note phones went caboom, I went to Wagga High School if you called someone a moron they were your best mate lol. Was a lame insult haha.

 

[Robbosan]

I want the Pen but I wouldn’t switch to Samsung for the pen. The pen has to come to the iPhone.

I always thought the s-pen would be handy for jotting down details for calls till I got one, pen and screen was to small so rarely used it.

 

[Tsepz]

Yes I’ve said this for years. I want Apple Pencil support for my iPhone.

I would love this.

I used to really enjoy the SPen on my Galaxy Notes, I often used it to copy/paste content accurately and it even allowed me to lift copy from places where most phones don’t allow to this day. There really was a great deal of convenience with the SPen.

I hope one day iPhone gets Pencil support or it’s own Mini Pencil, I’m sure they can workout some sort of accessory like a Case with a Pencil silo in it for an iPhone Pencil, there are a lot of cases like that for iPad Pro.

 

[Robbosan]

I hope one day iPhone gets Pencil support or it’s own Mini Pencil, I’m sure they can workout some sort of accessory like a Case with a Pencil silo in it for an iPhone Pencil, there are a lot of cases like that for iPad Pro.

I would like it if it was like a real pen size with a clip you could put in a shirt pocket.