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BetterTouchTool + Magic Mouse = MIGHTY MAGIC MOUSE!

iMerlin said:
Personally I dont have any hand/wrist discomfort when using the Magic Mouse, but maybe thats just me. And I do a lot of detailed photoshop traces that require constant movement, I actually find the Magic Mouse more comfortable that my old Logitech. Granted my old Logitech wasnt the top end model.

Maybe its all about how you position your hand. I find that resting my palm on the desk and letting my pinky/ring fingers and thumb control the mouse has made it a very comfortable mouse.
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So do I, finger gestures are much easier than whole hand movement.

I think Neonkru like to play devils advocate on Apple forums, it seems to be the general aim of most of his posts or threads.

Unless neokru is a practicing Doctor who is knowledgeable in the field, it's highly unlikely that anyone has had the time to determine which mouse is better for 'hand health.'
 
Xtremehkr said:
So do I, finger gestures are much easier than whole hand movement.

I think Neonkru like to play devils advocate on Apple forums, it seems to be the general aim of most of his posts or threads.

Unless neokru is a practicing Doctor who is knowledgeable in the field, it's highly unlikely that anyone has had the time to determine which mouse is better for 'hand health.'
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I think its all personal preference. Once you get used to a certain mouse for an extended period of time, you might not LET yourself like another mouse.
 
I've been using this since my iMac arrived a few weeks back. It's made some great strides, but it's still a bit unstable. I have to restart it every few days because it's either not responding anymore or it's using an unusually high amount of CPU cycles.

That said, I couldn't be happier with the functionality. I hate the two-finger swipe for back/forward. It never works consistently for me. It must be a hard gesture for me to make.

So I do the following:
3 finger click = Expose
Tip tap left = Back
Tip tap right = Forward
2 finger tap = Back
3 finter tap = Forward

I'm still deciding if I like the tip tap or regular tap for navigation. I think the tip tap makes more sense, but it's registering each gesture multiple times for me (so it goes forward/back several pages). Maybe once it stabilizes I can use that regularly.

As a note, I have at least two fingers on the mouse at all times, so I make sure not to assign anything to 2 finger click.
 
Thanks for making the thread OP. I cant wait to get my iMac here so I can start using this thing! I have been without a Mac for about five years I am ready to get my hands on one again. I was at best buy the other day and the magic mouse seems awesome! I can't wait to get BTT installed!
 
THIS APP IS A LIFE SAVER!!!!

thanks so much imerlin!!!!

im not sure what the "tiptap" and "whole hand" features do, i couldnt figure out how to work them :\

never mind saw the above post about tiptap, just about to try it out. got it going! really easy to use haha. put middle finger in the middle, then touch with left/right finger!
 
Agreed is IS magic!

I have plenty of mice and hated the Magic Mouse at first but now I love it and with the better touch tool I can use Maya and Unity with ease since it gives me a third mouse button.
 
DoFoT9 said:
THIS APP IS A LIFE SAVER!!!!

thanks so much imerlin!!!!

im not sure what the "tiptap" and "whole hand" features do, i couldnt figure out how to work them :\

never mind saw the above post about tiptap, just about to try it out. got it going! really easy to use haha. put middle finger in the middle, then touch with left/right finger!
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The tipTap is kinda cool when using it to move windows around. But I cant seem to get it to work for RW and FF. Maybe Im just expecting to much consistency. Hell, even the default gestures that come with the MM arent consistent, so I should expect a third party app to be more consistent.

As far as the whole hand gesture, I cant get that one to work at all. Im trying to use it to put my display to sleep.

I even spent some time loading BTT onto my MBP and playing with all the different gestures there. Toooo cool!!

Im glad everyone is finding this tool as useful as I am. Im going to buy another MM for my MBP now. This utility is making Apple some extra money off of me, thats for sure.
 
this is the best app I have tried

there is another app out there called MouseWizard, which is nice, but has nowhere near the customization as BTT.

Right now I am using:
2 finger swipe down - volume down
2 finger swipe up - volume up
single finger tab left, right and middle - Expose --> just tap anywhere and expose... easy.
two finger tap - Mute

That's it for now... I don't want to overwhelm myself.
 
iMerlin said:
cAPS - for the life of me I cant get this one to work.
Check this vid out from the devs site...
http://blog.boastr.net/?p=609
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I got it to work by keeping my fingers closer together when doing it. Don't know if I'll use it but it might be good for something.

I'm might try that one tap for Expose mentioned above. Right now I have two finger swipe down for it.
 
iMerlin said:
The tipTap is kinda cool when using it to move windows around. But I cant seem to get it to work for RW and FF. Maybe Im just expecting to much consistency. Hell, even the default gestures that come with the MM arent consistent, so I should expect a third party app to be more consistent.
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little to hard for me to use, i think ill stick with the others lol

As far as the whole hand gesture, I cant get that one to work at all. Im trying to use it to put my display to sleep.
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as am i! i couldnt find any guides on his blog, so ill just miss this one for a while.

Im glad everyone is finding this tool as useful as I am. Im going to buy another MM for my MBP now. This utility is making Apple some extra money off of me, thats for sure.
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i dont know why apple didnt include an option like this themselves! the options are pretty much endless, there are so many gestures that we can use!

J&JPolangin said:
...thanks for the info:(
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all good :D sorry that you cant use it :( get a MM!!


here are my gestures so far:
Single Finger Tap Left/Right - Volume Down/Up
Single Finger Tap Middle - Show Desktop
Three Finger Tap - Show Spaces
Three Finger Swipe Right - Move to next Safari tab right
Three Finger Swipe Left - Move to next Safari tab left
Three Finger Swipe Down - Select Adium
Three Finger Swipe Up - Select Safari
Whole Hand on Mouse - SLeep Display (cant work it argh!)
 
cAPS lOCK said:
I got it to work by keeping my fingers closer together when doing it. Don't know if I'll use it but it might be good for something.

I'm might try that one tap for Expose mentioned above. Right now I have two finger swipe down for it.
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You are right, it works better if you keep your fingers closer together. I also noticed more consistency when making sure my middle finger was actually in the middle of the mouse. Sometimes I have the tendency to have my hand slightly off center putting my middle finger to the right side of the mouse.

DoFoT9 said:
i dont know why apple didnt include an option like this themselves! the options are pretty much endless, there are so many gestures that we can use!
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My only guess is that they realized the potential of the Magic Mouse but didn't want to give it all at once. Its the same crap excuse I've been hearing (and saying myself) when it comes to the iPhone. Why give it all the features we want when we keep buying regardless of what it has.
In this scenario they can sell a ton of Magic Mice and later add some of these features and sell even more... and so on.

Or maybe they tested things like this and had the same level of consistency we are having, so decided not to add it.



DoFoT9 said:
here are my gestures so far:
Single Finger Tap Left/Right - Volume Down/Up
Single Finger Tap Middle - Show Desktop
Three Finger Tap - Show Spaces
Three Finger Swipe Right - Move to next Safari tab right
Three Finger Swipe Left - Move to next Safari tab left
Three Finger Swipe Down - Select Adium
Three Finger Swipe Up - Select Safari
Whole Hand on Mouse - SLeep Display (cant work it argh!)
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Dof, do you find yourself showing the desktop often by mistake? I find myself turning down my volume accidentally often since my index finger often touches the mouse unintentionally.
I still love what this tool does for the Magic Mouse. I keep trying to think about other shortcuts I can add that are more application specific. For example, I work a lot with Photoshop and use the keyboard a TON for shortcuts. So I set up a couple of Photoshop specific gestures like:

Three finger swipe down = Command ; (Show/Clear guides)
tipTap Left = Command - (zoom out)
tipTap Right = Command + (zoom in)
I found the tipTap gesture to work much more consistently within Photoshop for some reason. Not sure why but it zooms very nicely!

I still cant get the pinch or the whole hand gestures to work . The whole hand gesture is a good idea but I have a pretty large hand, I cant really get my entire hand on the mouse without a finger hanging over the side. At that point I have 3 fingers on the mouse and it thinks Im trying to do a three finger gesture. I might just have to live without the whole hand functionality.
 
iMerlin said:
My only guess is that they realized the potential of the Magic Mouse but didn't want to give it all at once. Its the same crap excuse I've been hearing (and saying myself) when it comes to the iPhone. Why give it all the features we want when we keep buying regardless of what it has.
In this scenario they can sell a ton of Magic Mice and later add some of these features and sell even more... and so on.

Or maybe they tested things like this and had the same level of consistency we are having, so decided not to add it.
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i was thinking that, slowly release the features. except this time they dont have control with all the software like with the iPhone lol! anybody can write an Apple app.


Dof, do you find yourself showing the desktop often by mistake? I find myself turning down my volume accidentally often since my index finger often touches the mouse unintentionally.
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at the start i was yes, but its just like everything - you get used to it. being a drummer im pretty accurate with hitting the same spots ;) i find hitting towards the top end of the mouse is more accurate (i.e. further away from your hands). there is just more surface area there. you can change the location of the left/right buttons though in the settings cant you?

I still love what this tool does for the Magic Mouse. I keep trying to think about other shortcuts I can add that are more application specific. For example, I work a lot with Photoshop and use the keyboard a TON for shortcuts. So I set up a couple of Photoshop specific gestures like:


Three finger swipe down = Command ; (Show/Clear guides)
tipTap Left = Command - (zoom out)
tipTap Right = Command + (zoom in)
I found the tipTap gesture to work much more consistently within Photoshop for some reason. Not sure why but it zooms very nicely!
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nice nice! i dont want to add too many shortcuts yet, otherwise i will forget them all! im just doing the main ones, then eventually i will add application specific ones. i have been using FCP alot lately so maybe i can think of something for that.

I still cant get the pinch or the whole hand gestures to work . The whole hand gesture is a good idea but I have a pretty large hand, I cant really get my entire hand on the mouse without a finger hanging over the side. At that point I have 3 fingers on the mouse and it thinks Im trying to do a three finger gesture. I might just have to live without the whole hand functionality.
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pinch frustrates me, i cant get it to work with my fingers, i have to use my thumb and finger to pinch it - so i wont use them lol.

i can quite easily fit 3 fingers on and use it comfortably, no complaints here at all for this app!
 
Pinch pisses me off, along with two-finger click. So I just don't use them.

My gestures:

Global:
Three finger swipe left/right: move left/right in spaces
Three finger swipe up: show desktop
Three finger swipe down: expose
Three finger tap: dashboard
Two finger swipe left/right: default (back/forward)

Safari:
Tip-tap left/right: move to the left/right tab
 
ravenvii said:
Three finger swipe left/right: move left/right in spaces
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I was thinking about setting this one up too, but decided to go with 2 finger up to activate Spaces. I like to have 9 spaces so I was finding it more work to tab through them all as opposed to seeing all the spaces and clicking on the one I want.

I have a feeling Im going to be changing this often! ;)

DoFoT9 said:
i was thinking that, slowly release the features. except this time they dont have control with all the software like with the iPhone lol! anybody can write an Apple app.
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How true, I didnt really think about that. I wonder if Apple expects things like this will be developed and ultimately end up making them more money. All the while they dont have to pay the developer and they dont have to waste their time with R&D or support. Hmmm...


DoFoT9 said:
nice nice! i dont want to add too many shortcuts yet, otherwise i will forget them all! im just doing the main ones, then eventually i will add application specific ones. i have been using FCP alot lately so maybe i can think of something for that.
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I know what you mean, you dont want to throw to much at that brain of yours! I dont know what I have in my brain that does this but I can remember keyboard shortcuts like a lost cat can find its way home. My wife calls me rainman sometimes! You being a drummer though, Im surprised you arent the same way. I play guitar but always found it amazing that you drummers can do so many different things at once, all in different time... its ridiculous! I can do a simple 16 beat on the drums but once I try to spice it up I get all over the place!


DoFoT9 said:
pinch frustrates me, i cant get it to work with my fingers, i have to use my thumb and finger to pinch it - so i wont use them lol.
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I dont know what Im doing wrong with the pinch but I cant even get it to work by accident. Thats ok though... I really only want pinch for magnification. But since I created tipTap for that in PS, I think Im golden. The configurations are endless with this app.
 
iMerlin said:
How true, I didnt really think about that. I wonder if Apple expects things like this will be developed and ultimately end up making them more money. All the while they dont have to pay the developer and they dont have to waste their time with R&D or support. Hmmm...
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if apple catches wind of this program, i wonder if they will buy out the programmer then sell it or something ;)

I know what you mean, you dont want to throw to much at that brain of yours! I dont know what I have in my brain that does this but I can remember keyboard shortcuts like a lost cat can find its way home. My wife calls me rainman sometimes! You being a drummer though, Im surprised you arent the same way. I play guitar but always found it amazing that you drummers can do so many different things at once, all in different time... its ridiculous! I can do a simple 16 beat on the drums but once I try to spice it up I get all over the place!
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BAHA that made me LOL!

hmm i dont think i have a problem with remembering them, its just using them utilising them for efficient work. so far the ones i have setup work really well. volume up/down on the tap are brilliant, i have two finger tap to play songs.. idk i guess im just fussy haha.

I dont know what Im doing wrong with the pinch but I cant even get it to work by accident. Thats ok though... I really only want pinch for magnification. But since I created tipTap for that in PS, I think Im golden. The configurations are endless with this app.
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really? have you pinched on a trackpad? use the same method. apple has videos of it on their website (somewhere). put your thumb and index finger together, then push them outwards/inwards in a diagonal manner.
 
DoFoT9 said:
really? have you pinched on a trackpad? use the same method. apple has videos of it on their website (somewhere). put your thumb and index finger together, then push them outwards/inwards in a diagonal manner.
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Oh yeah, my MBP has the trackpad and I can pinch on there no problem.

With that in mind I just shot over to PS and added a gesture for pinch in and out to zoom in and out and what do you know, its working decently.

Maybe I was just not implementing it correctly before. I was trying to add it to Safari to increase and decrease text size. But I just went and tried that again and its working too!! IDK Dof, I think Im losing it man!
 
iMerlin said:
Oh yeah, my MBP has the trackpad and I can pinch on there no problem.

With that in mind I just shot over to PS and added a gesture for pinch in and out to zoom in and out and what do you know, its working decently.

Maybe I was just not implementing it correctly before. I was trying to add it to Safari to increase and decrease text size. But I just went and tried that again and its working too!! IDK Dof, I think Im losing it man!
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yay its working! too frustrating for me id rather not move my fingers.

i didnt know that you ever had it? :rolleyes: ;)
 
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