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Indeed. Check her hair alone.

The original statement was simply false about country music, but it’s a trope that some folks keep dragging along.
Her hair? You do realize black women can have straight hair? Straight hair is not indicative of a race 😂🤣 and blonde hair is not also indicative of a particular race lmaoo. Plz get real.

And it’s not a trope. It’s fact. Again educate yourself plz before continuing to make false comments because you clearly are wrong but the fact you stand on it when the proof is literally a google search away is hilarious.

Beyoncé is Beyoncé and successful and her album did remind a lot of us that like most things in this country (from the roots of early America to music and fashion) that it did begin with black culture. And it’s usually black culture that is stolen by others. That is fact.

You’ll be okay. Or not. Have a good one IMG_0044.png
 
knowing the MR community i firmly expected to find vitriol here pretty quickly. within the first 3 comments is way faster than expected.

What vitriol? We're just pointing out how weird it is for them to produce a documentary about her for tv+ then keep giving her "artist of the year" multiple times as if she's the Beatles or something.

It's so fake and staged and makes it obvious that apple and her label masters share board seats or something.

People want real, authentic artists not industry plants.
 
This needs an article? So looking forward to the lack of bands and ensembles breaking new ground to end, so we can expand our horizons once more in music with new talent, musically diverse, actually has a bridge in their music, doesn't utilize a bazillion samples and talks through their music like a beatnik poet.
 
SHOCKED! Not Taylor Swift again? Oh, what is the difference always the same artist wins while there are thousands other talented musicians who do not get noticed.
 
She's insufferable. I shudder to think about who the finalists were, if she won.

Music today, outside of a couple genres, is so derivative and lacking in actual talent. Rick Beato, a music producer, has a YT channel and talks at length about the piss poor state of modern "Pop" type music.
I quite enjoy Rick Beato's channel. I would have said that Beato agreeing with Dave Grohl's assessment that "Billie Eilish is the Kurt Cobain of this generation" was a fairly huge compliment, but perhaps you took that as an insult?

 
I quite enjoy Rick Beato's channel. I would have said that Beato agreeing with Dave Grohl's assessment that "Billie Eilish is the Kurt Cobain of this generation" was a fairly huge compliment, but perhaps you took that as an insult?


As I personally find the Foo Fighters to be one of the most boring groups of the past 20 years, I take no notice of Grohl and his opinions. Strictly my viewpoint of course.
 
As I personally find the Foo Fighters to be one of the most boring groups of the past 20 years, I take no notice of Grohl and his opinions. Strictly my viewpoint of course.
So you base the validity of a persons opinions on how engaging they are? Thats hilarious and pretty narrow minded, but that’s strictly my viewpoint of course. I can’t imagine how much I was missing out because I had a TikTok mindset.
 
So you base the validity of a persons opinions on how engaging they are? Thats hilarious and pretty narrow minded, but that’s strictly my viewpoint of course. I can’t imagine how much I was missing out because I had a TikTok mindset.
Well, if Grohl is correct with his Cobain reference, Billie will only be with us for another 4 years and one month.
 
Well, if Grohl is correct with his Cobain reference, Billie will only be with us for another 4 years and one month.
Wow.

Beato only referenced Grohl as saying they are similar, and Beato explains the similarities. But I guess if you can’t even be bothered watching the linked video, then there is no point in discussing it, even though you referenced it.

And seeing as Dave Grohl knew Kurt Cobain really really well, I have to take his opinion on face value, and yours is discarded.
 
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Wow.

Beato only referenced Grohl as saying they are similar, and Beato explains the similarities. But I guess if you can’t even be bothered watching the linked video, then there is no point in discussing it, even though you referenced it.

And seeing as Dave Grohl knew Kurt Cobain really really well, I have to take his opinion on face value, and yours is discarded.
Fine with me. Cheers.
 
Seriously?! What's the judging criteria? Number of streams? Number of songs being sold? Or album? None of the figure shows she's the best. Why's Apple Music always promote such overrated artist?
 
As I personally find the Foo Fighters to be one of the most boring groups of the past 20 years, I take no notice of Grohl and his opinions. Strictly my viewpoint of course.
It was actually a Rick Beato video I linked to, where he featured multiple Billie Eilish songs and only mentioned the Grohl comment as the starting premise for his analysis. Beato made a fairly good case that Eilish and her brother are not cookie cutter product, and backed it with several rather good examples.

I am a fan of Grohl, but even if I wasn't, he does have just a bit of a connection with Cobain, as well as his own catalog of songs that would tend to make me value his opinion of Cobain slightly more than that of most random posters on the internet. I do usually like Rick Beato's videos, though, and since the original poster referenced Beato while disparaging Eilish, it did make me wonder whether he truly paid any attention to Beato's actual videos.

Art is subjective, so everyone has their own opinion on it. The part I find strange is how some people just seem to feel a need to disparage the artists. There is a fair bit of music that doesn't appeal to me, but I don't begrudge anyone else their favourites (okay, maybe a little bit when drinking at the bar, but many of these comments seem rather venomous, especially considering that Eilish seems quite far from manufactured pop.)

Speaking of art, your avatar makes me want to find my old Expos cap my dad bought me from Canadian Tire in 1974!
 
I quite enjoy Rick Beato's channel. I would have said that Beato agreeing with Dave Grohl's assessment that "Billie Eilish is the Kurt Cobain of this generation" was a fairly huge compliment, but perhaps you took that as an insult?

I disagree with Rick and Dave Grohl on that statement but I also believe Cobain, while having SOME influence, is given too much credit.
 
It was actually a Rick Beato video I linked to, where he featured multiple Billie Eilish songs and only mentioned the Grohl comment as the starting premise for his analysis. Beato made a fairly good case that Eilish and her brother are not cookie cutter product, and backed it with several rather good examples.

I am a fan of Grohl, but even if I wasn't, he does have just a bit of a connection with Cobain, as well as his own catalog of songs that would tend to make me value his opinion of Cobain slightly more than that of most random posters on the internet. I do usually like Rick Beato's videos, though, and since the original poster referenced Beato while disparaging Eilish, it did make me wonder whether he truly paid any attention to Beato's actual videos.

Art is subjective, so everyone has their own opinion on it. The part I find strange is how some people just seem to feel a need to disparage the artists. There is a fair bit of music that doesn't appeal to me, but I don't begrudge anyone else their favourites (okay, maybe a little bit when drinking at the bar, but many of these comments seem rather venomous, especially considering that Eilish seems quite far from manufactured pop.)

Speaking of art, your avatar makes me want to find my old Expos cap my dad bought me from Canadian Tire in 1974!

Yes, I pay attention to Rick's videos. Two things can be true at once, I can agree with Rick about the state of today's "mainstream" music and disagree with him about one particular artist. Those two things aren't incongruous.
 
It was actually a Rick Beato video I linked to, where he featured multiple Billie Eilish songs and only mentioned the Grohl comment as the starting premise for his analysis. Beato made a fairly good case that Eilish and her brother are not cookie cutter product, and backed it with several rather good examples.

I am a fan of Grohl, but even if I wasn't, he does have just a bit of a connection with Cobain, as well as his own catalog of songs that would tend to make me value his opinion of Cobain slightly more than that of most random posters on the internet. I do usually like Rick Beato's videos, though, and since the original poster referenced Beato while disparaging Eilish, it did make me wonder whether he truly paid any attention to Beato's actual videos.

Art is subjective, so everyone has their own opinion on it. The part I find strange is how some people just seem to feel a need to disparage the artists. There is a fair bit of music that doesn't appeal to me, but I don't begrudge anyone else their favourites (okay, maybe a little bit when drinking at the bar, but many of these comments seem rather venomous, especially considering that Eilish seems quite far from manufactured pop.)

Speaking of art, your avatar makes me want to find my old Expos cap my dad bought me from Canadian Tire in 1974!
Start looking for that cap....
 
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Yes, I pay attention to Rick's videos. Two things can be true at once, I can agree with Rick about the state of today's "mainstream" music and disagree with him about one particular artist. Those two things aren't incongruous.
I would normally agree, but in this case his stated opinion is that the artist in question is explicitly the antithesis of today's "mainstream" music, so your choice to drop Beato's name in a critique of said artist is very much the definition of incongruous.
 
I would normally agree, but in this case his stated opinion is that the artist in question is explicitly the antithesis of today's "mainstream" music, so your choice to drop Beato's name in a critique of said artist is very much the definition of incongruous.
Again, not to belabor the point, I can not like his stance on her, because I don't happen to believe she's anything BUT a product of today's musical environment, but still believe his take on modern music is accurate.

You don't have to agree.
 
Again, not to belabor the point, I can not like his stance on her, because I don't happen to believe she's anything BUT a product of today's musical environment, but still believe his take on modern music is accurate.

You don't have to agree.
I don't actually have any of her music, but simply recalled seeing the title of that video (which I didn't watch at the time as it seemed rather hyperbolic and more clickbait than I expect from Beato). I did watch it before linking it in my post, though, and would agree with him that at least the songs he played sounded like old school music to me, so I don't see the reason for the distaste many here seem to have. I expect they may never have heard anything other than her big hit that was likely overplayed most places (I hated "My Sharona" for many years due to hearing it way too many times in too short a period, but quite enjoy it now, when it no longer finds me everywhere I turn.)

But, as you said, you don't have to agree, as music is very subjective, and I simply found your choice of examples strange. Cheers.
 
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