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Blu-ray, Shmoo-Ray. Am I the only one around here that could care less about it?
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I don't need a Blue-Ray drive in a computer/laptop too.
I don't watch a lot of movies, but if I would watch them, I would do it on the TV and not a screen of a PC/Mac.
I don't watch a lot of movies, but if I would watch them, I would do it on the TV and not a screen of a PC/Mac.
Blu-ray playback is a big deal to me because I watch a LOT of movies on my Mac and in my home theater. Being a Netflix member it would be very convenient if I could have all of my movies sent to me on BD. As it is now I have to order some on DVD and others on BD depending on where I think I might end up viewing them. Just for comparison I watch about 20% of my movies on BD via PS3 in my home theater and the other 80% on DVD on my Mac. Where it becomes a hassle is when I get a movie on BD and don't end up watching it in the home theater, if I could play it on my Mac it would be no issue.
Besides that 27" screen is crying for BD.
Besides that 27" screen is crying for BD.
Ok, I think I understand this a little better now. Some of you folks are college students or live in efficiency apartments and have the computer as your one source of entertainment. And, you LOVE blu-ray, so you'd like it all to be on your iMac. I get that, now.
That's you though, not me. I respect your interest in wanting this as an option. I'm different. I don't care about perfect quality audio or video anymore. I used to be a stereophile and I still have the Mcintosh equipment but it's relegated to the basement now.
We don't even own a stereo upstairs. Same as our DVD player. We only have one in the basement and the family room. Never needed a blu-ray for the next step up in video quality as regular DVD's are fine for us. We have high def DVR's and STILL watch the lower end channels that aren't hi def. We COULD watch the higher end, upper channels that broadcast in actual HD but we're just not that particular. I'm guessing there's lots of less than discriminating people like us. There's probably a lot more of us types than the people that can't get by without blu-ray, or Mcintosh stereo equipment, or 73" HD Sony TV's, etc.
So, I couldn't care less
about ever having a blu-ray machine, while my friend looks down on any video's when we have "movie night" at his place and we bring something over to watch that isn't on blu-ray. To each his own. He couldn't care more... about blu-ray
That's you though, not me. I respect your interest in wanting this as an option. I'm different. I don't care about perfect quality audio or video anymore. I used to be a stereophile and I still have the Mcintosh equipment but it's relegated to the basement now.
We don't even own a stereo upstairs. Same as our DVD player. We only have one in the basement and the family room. Never needed a blu-ray for the next step up in video quality as regular DVD's are fine for us. We have high def DVR's and STILL watch the lower end channels that aren't hi def. We COULD watch the higher end, upper channels that broadcast in actual HD but we're just not that particular. I'm guessing there's lots of less than discriminating people like us. There's probably a lot more of us types than the people that can't get by without blu-ray, or Mcintosh stereo equipment, or 73" HD Sony TV's, etc.
So, I couldn't care less
about ever having a blu-ray machine, while my friend looks down on any video's when we have "movie night" at his place and we bring something over to watch that isn't on blu-ray. To each his own. He couldn't care more... about blu-ray
I couldn't care less about Blu-Ray playback, but I'd sure like to be able to create them from the movies I make.
I'm of the opinion that optical media is on the way out. Flash drives seem so much more logical when it comes to storing media these days. Soon flash drives will be so cheap they will begin selling software that comes on a read-only flash drive. SSD's will become standard soon.
This perspective obviously puts me in the 'i don't care about bluray' gang.
Just my opinion.
This perspective obviously puts me in the 'i don't care about bluray' gang.
Just my opinion.
I'm sorry, I mean no offence, but I am just interesting in knowing what consumer camcorder you are recording with?
Tbh, I couldnt give a rats ar5e about blu-ray. Probably because I haven't used optical media entertainment for months now
I think internet streaming is the next big thing
I think internet streaming is the next big thing
I agree. I myself could also care less about blue ray on my computer. I would never watch a blue ray movie on my computer and I dont need to burn so much DATA on a disc.
I have a blue ray player and a 42" HDTV and I haven't even ever watched a blue ray disc on it!
Don't get me wrong, I care about video quality. Given a choice to watch television in either SD or HD, there's no way I'd watch SD instead. But I, like others here, believe that physical media is on the way out and I don't support Blu-rays DRM.
I'm sorry, I mean no offence, but I am just interesting in knowing what consumer camcorder you are recording with?
No offense taken.
I believe it is the Sony HC-1
It was the first consumer HD camcorder introduced
about 4 years ago.
Records 1080 to mini DVD tape.
While there are newer HD camcorders I would
rather not move to AVCHD technology and the
camcorder I have is still rated very high.
No offense taken.
I believe it is the Sony HC-1
It was the first consumer HD camcorder introduced
about 4 years ago.
Records 1080 to mini DVD tape.
While there are newer HD camcorders I would
rather not move to AVCHD technology and the
camcorder I have is still rated very high.
Let me make a prediction.
And my prediction:
All these people not caring about Blu-Rays on Macs will shut-up as soon as Apple starts including them.
And my prediction:
All these people not caring about Blu-Rays on Macs will shut-up as soon as Apple starts including them.
NJRombo,
Before giving you my advice this, let me suggest posting these kind of questions in the appropriate thread. Please don't misunderstand, just trying to help you get the best answers.
To answer your question, being a videographer, I still prefer editing in HDV. Why, well, even the fairly fast Macs are sluggish editing AVCHD compared to HDV. I know that AVCHD will be catching on in the near future, but as of this time, it hasn't. Everyone in the business I know still use HDV for editing. Why? It's cost effective, easier to edit and surpasses AVCHD picture quality . Yes, AVCHD allows you to access your clips on the fly before editing but you can do the same with HDV after uploading your whole tape...and that doesn't really interfere with the whole process, for me. I just let my tape load for about an hour and it's ready for editing.
When, I edit, I like my Mac to respond fast, without lag. On my MBP 13" (connected to a 24" external monitor, a keyboard and a mouse), HDV editing editing is a joy to behold. It's freakin' smooth! But if you want to ignore HDV alltogether, you will still be able to edit AVCHD fairly well in iMovie or Final Cut Express. Just don't come back to me when it starts going wonkers on you.
I have a Canon HV30 which is considered a great balance between cost and quality. Get it while you still can, or get it's latest brother, the HV40, also a an HDV camcorder.
RE:
"I'm neutral on BluRay. But to not offer it as an option in 2009, well kinda smells funny. ? is Apple buying time until physical media dies out? It it an attempt to push their iTunes model?"
Points to consider:
1. Aren't both the new 21" and 27" iMacs designed to display a 16:9 aspect ratio?
2. Isn't this what 1080p requires for high-definition (i.e. BluRay) playback?
3. The 27" iMac has a "video-in" port. Does the 21" model have one, too?
I'm sensing that Apple has some kind of "external solution" in the works for those who want "a BluRay option". It will probably take the form of an external player that also has internal hardware to deal with BluRay's copy protection schemes.
Plug the Apple BluRay Box into the video in port on your iMac, install some software, and - view BluRay discs on the Mac!
This in itself doesn't address the issue of authoring - those who wish to create BR content. But doesn't Apple's Final Cut Pro already have some kind of "BluRay support" in it? Just waiting for some additional software? I'm guessing that that is also "waiting for release".
Apple is laying the groundwork, and the new iMacs are a [partial] result.
We'll have to wait a little longer to see the rest of Apple's high-definition picture.
- John
"I'm neutral on BluRay. But to not offer it as an option in 2009, well kinda smells funny. ? is Apple buying time until physical media dies out? It it an attempt to push their iTunes model?"
Points to consider:
1. Aren't both the new 21" and 27" iMacs designed to display a 16:9 aspect ratio?
2. Isn't this what 1080p requires for high-definition (i.e. BluRay) playback?
3. The 27" iMac has a "video-in" port. Does the 21" model have one, too?
I'm sensing that Apple has some kind of "external solution" in the works for those who want "a BluRay option". It will probably take the form of an external player that also has internal hardware to deal with BluRay's copy protection schemes.
Plug the Apple BluRay Box into the video in port on your iMac, install some software, and - view BluRay discs on the Mac!
This in itself doesn't address the issue of authoring - those who wish to create BR content. But doesn't Apple's Final Cut Pro already have some kind of "BluRay support" in it? Just waiting for some additional software? I'm guessing that that is also "waiting for release".
Apple is laying the groundwork, and the new iMacs are a [partial] result.
We'll have to wait a little longer to see the rest of Apple's high-definition picture.
- John
Donster,
Appreciate the help, but I didn't post a
question in the wrong thread.
If you looked further back, someone
simply asked me what camcorder I
was using. I answered it.
I also agree with you, as my post so
indicated that I am keeping an older
HD camcorder because I don't want
to get into AVCHD.
Thanks for the help anyway.
Appreciate the help, but I didn't post a
question in the wrong thread.
If you looked further back, someone
simply asked me what camcorder I
was using. I answered it.
I also agree with you, as my post so
indicated that I am keeping an older
HD camcorder because I don't want
to get into AVCHD.
Thanks for the help anyway.
You may be right in some of your speculations, including Apple buying time to push their iTunes hi-def format to compete with blu-ray. But, until our interenet providers bump up the speeds of our interenet connections (and I mean really bump them up), it may be a long time before this happens. You will not be able to instantly enjoy a hi bit rate hd movie from iTunes right now.
Apple has to consider that Blu-ray is "the" high def medium at present, and believe it or not, people are actually bitting. There are a lot more blu-ray players in houses now than before and I truly believe it will catch on.
Still a lot of people are content to stick with regular def DVD's. Heck, I brushed off blu-ray when it came out the first time, because it was freakin' expenssive and not a lot of movies were out at the time. I started a DVD buying frenzy just to show my defiance. But deep inside me, blu-ray quality way better, so as soon as the PS3 came out, I bit the bullet. Now I have 150blu-ray movies, 100 HD-DVD's and 100 DVD's (after selling the rest in place of blu-rays).
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Sony fanboy or employee. I'm just an avid hi-def consumer. Blu-ray offers the highest quality video to date and 'Super hi-def' is still very expenssive both to produce content for and to play.
If you have a PS3 check out this thread. Its not as good as having a built in BD drive, but it works just as well.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/621983/
I own one BR disc... the one that came with the PS3.
BR really doesn't matter to me. If I really want the recording support, I will add a BR player to my PC. I have pretty much switched to Netflix and HD DVR from timewarner.
If I need to haul around big files, I carry 2x 2.5" 500GB HDDs in my laptop bag.
BR really doesn't matter to me. If I really want the recording support, I will add a BR player to my PC. I have pretty much switched to Netflix and HD DVR from timewarner.
If I need to haul around big files, I carry 2x 2.5" 500GB HDDs in my laptop bag.
Exactly. If you don't need it, well that's awesome for you. I do wedding videography, and once I invest in a couple of HD cameras, I'll need BR authoring utilities.
It's not a deal-breaker, I still plan on purchasing the new iMac eventually, but BR authoring would be much cooler to do on an iMac than on my Windows machine.
Blu-Ray movies are of zero interest to me. However, Blu-Ray as a data storage mechanism DOES interest me. I'm curious why Apple chose not to simply enable BD burning on Snow Leopard and leave out movie playback until that was ready... or maybe they DID do this, and I'm just not aware of it.
I still can't believe how many people do not watch hi-def movies on blu-ray.
I guess we're still in a transition period, much like the VHS to DVD transition a few years back. People were brushing off DVD because it was too expensive, not a lot of movies available on it, VHS quality is passable.
The moment it went mainstream, everybody's going, "hey, did you get the DVD of...?".
I guess we're still in a transition period, much like the VHS to DVD transition a few years back. People were brushing off DVD because it was too expensive, not a lot of movies available on it, VHS quality is passable.
The moment it went mainstream, everybody's going, "hey, did you get the DVD of...?".