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Blu-ray, Shmoo-Ray. Am I the only one around here that could care less about it?

Why is it when Apple decides to leave out functionality that the fanboys simply agree and excuse the short coming as something they don't need?

Remember when Steve Jobs said the MMS on the iPhone was old technology and people should be emailing pictures and everyone agreed?

How about SD card slots on macs?

Even before the app store, people were ok with Apple not allowing 3rd party development of applications, but once they opened it up, it was the best thing since sliced bread.

What I am trying to say is that just because Apple overlooks something, doesn't automatically mean that they are right, because they have reversed course on a number of things over the years after saying it was something they would never do.

In my opinion not adding blu-ray support to the new iMacs was a big mistake, especially given the quality of the new displays. Now we just have to wait and see how long it is until they change their mind and then all the fanboys start saying how awesome it is.
 
mpuck972 said:
Why is it when Apple decides to leave out functionality that the fanboys simply agree and excuse the short coming as something they don't need?

Remember when Steve Jobs said the MMS on the iPhone was old technology and people should be emailing pictures and everyone agreed?

How about SD card slots on macs?

Even before the app store, people were ok with Apple not allowing 3rd party development of applications, but once they opened it up, it was the best thing since sliced bread.

What I am trying to say is that just because Apple overlooks something, doesn't automatically mean that they are right, because they have reversed course on a number of things over the years after saying it was something they would never do.

In my opinion not adding blu-ray support to the new iMacs was a big mistake, especially given the quality of the new displays. Now we just have to wait and see how long it is until they change their mind and then all the fanboys start saying how awesome it is.
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I understand your point. But the majority of the people on this thread are simply not giving Blu-ray a chance because they're still satisfied with subpar SD-DVD quality. If these people are all for blu-ray, then they'll be on the same boat as the both of us aking why oh why Apple is ignoring Blu-ray.

People who don't care about Blu-ray, could care less about complaining on Apple's ommission.
 
donster28 said:
I understand your point. But the majority of the people on this thread are simply not giving Blu-ray a chance because they're still satisfied with subpar SD-DVD quality. If these people are all for blu-ray, then they'll be on the same boat as the both of us aking why oh why Apple is ignoring Blu-ray.

People who don't care about Blu-ray, could care less about complaining on Apple's ommission.
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I have blu-ray, would like it on Macs, but didn't let that stop me from buying a new Mac recently. It's just not a big deal to me.
 
mpuck972 said:
Why is it when Apple decides to leave out functionality that the fanboys simply agree and excuse the short coming as something they don't need?

Remember when Steve Jobs said the MMS on the iPhone was old technology and people should be emailing pictures and everyone agreed?

How about SD card slots on macs?

Even before the app store, people were ok with Apple not allowing 3rd party development of applications, but once they opened it up, it was the best thing since sliced bread.

What I am trying to say is that just because Apple overlooks something, doesn't automatically mean that they are right, because they have reversed course on a number of things over the years after saying it was something they would never do.

In my opinion not adding blu-ray support to the new iMacs was a big mistake, especially given the quality of the new displays. Now we just have to wait and see how long it is until they change their mind and then all the fanboys start saying how awesome it is.
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I certainly agree that MMS is old and emailing pictures is preferable. I guess it's nice that Apple got around to developing MMS support but I'm glad it wasn't anywhere near top-priority. There were other, much more important things to work on at the time (Safari stability on the iPhone, copy/paste...)

SD card slots are nice but not of much importance -- I suspect most people will not use them, but perhaps enough will to make them worth the cost. I think most consumer types use USB.

Everyone on every Apple-friendly site was clamoring for native apps. That was close to the top of every wishlist I saw. Apple itself was just playing things cool at the time anyway; it's obvious that the SDK was long-planned but not ready for release at launch.
 
I don't care about bluray on the mac.

I have a bluray player and a big TV with 5.1 setup for that.

On the mac its a bag o' hurt :D
 
As soon as Apple add blu-ray support to OSX, you could always add an external USB blu-ray drive/burner. No big deal. I certainly wouldn't avoid buying a Mac right now just because the drive isn't integrated into the hardware.
 
I don't care about blu ray in a desktop computer. I would like/use one in a UMBP though. When I travel, I tend to watch movies...and I like to watch movies I already own. I only buy blu ray, so this would be a bigger deal for me when dealing with a laptop.
 
Why not at least have the option? I'm sure some people wouldn't mind paying for the upgrade (even if it was only BTO).
 
donster28 said:
I still can't believe how many people do not watch hi-def movies on blu-ray.

I guess we're still in a transition period, much like the VHS to DVD transition a few years back. People were brushing off DVD because it was too expensive, not a lot of movies available on it, VHS quality is passable.

The moment it went mainstream, everybody's going, "hey, did you get the DVD of...?".
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I do not think it is a transition period. Some people have switched to a different medium altogether. If I want to watch something I can use PPV HD or netflix HD on my 52 inch Samsung 240hz auto motion with full surround.
 
It is not a deal breaker but as i have stated in like threads, a 27" mac was not designed as an all-in-one computer, it is designed to be an all-in-one entertainment device. If blu-ray is the current HD standard is should be in the iMac or at least an option. There is a reason that youtube and other video sites exist. Consumers do not use iMacs just for iwork and email. watching a movie or a TV show or a video when not using the iMac as a computer is now the norm. its time for blu-ray.
 
at2wells said:
I JUST NOW, posted this over on another thread, and Ill re-preint it here since its a little more pertinent to this thread:

This is the best thing I have seen posted on this site since I joined and made the switch from PC to Mac one week ago. I, for the life of me, cant understand why people want to watch movies on their computer. For me, my Mac is in my "office", its where I do work and surf the net. I also do some Pages and Numbers work on it now. So I wouldnt be watching a movie, regardless of its format, here on this Mac. I would take my happy backside through the door on my right and watch it on my 40 in the bedroom, or oh no! all the way down stairs where I have the blu ray hooked to the big daddy. I dont mean to bash everyone, I understand the Hd camcorder and wanting to rip home videos on blu ray quality, but for the most part that isnt what people have been complaining about it for. Can anyone explain why they want to sit in front of their computer to watch DVD's?
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I can't explain it, nor do I do it. I LOVE BLU-RAY MOVIES, until you see a movie in Blu-Ray, you just don't know how good a movie at home can be.
That said, I do not want a blue ray burner, but I see how some do, and for them I do not see any reason Apple won't include it as an option for those who do. It's called catering to your customers :p
Sorry customers!
 
like i said before blue ray players are allright for watching films on your big 50 inch plasma screen

but on a computer it would be more of a thing like storing data on them , but they are i still in stage of development, as its not clear where its going there are recorders on the market with 2 layer and with 3 layers and there are at final stages with 4 layers and in development with up to 10 layers so which one do you want to have as it will add several 100 pounds or dollars to get one build in a new imac and i as a customer do not want to buy something that is possibly obsolete next year or in the following year as i dont buy a new computer every couple month only to keep up with the newest technology
 
As i said before, if Apple doesn't want to include a BR drive in the Macs, they should at least make Snow Leopard support it. Then you can swap out the SuperDrive to a BR drive or go external.
 
Count one here who watches entertainment content using my PC and will using my iMac, and wants the ability to play Blu Ray movies at least until we can buy full-res versions of 1080p movies online and at the same cost.

That said, it didn't stop me from ordering a 27. I'll just be buying an aftermarket player and using Windows rather than giving Apple those dollars.
 
what are you talking about.
people who complain about apple not having blu-ray support
are not talking about blu-ray rom movie!

they are like me talking about making blu-ray movies from their HDV recorder.

they are like me talking about backup data on 25GB disc or 50GB disc.

I just went to japan and in their shop , 50GB BD-RE DL disc only cost about 8-10 Euro each.

what wrong with putting massive amount of data on one disc?
you have a problem with that??

apple is about cutting edge computer technology, why the hell is it behind PC now.

is there a PC advert about why mac have no blu-ray?

what about those wedding video professional, who cannot edit and burn blu-ray disc to their customer, they are force to use PC. what about their woes.

watch BD movie on mac?? where did you get that?



stever500 said:
Blu-ray in an iMac being a deal breaker for people? I don't get that. For me, I don't have a BluRay player, I will probably never own one, I'm sure. When I want to watch a movie, I usually just go to the theater to see it on a big screen. If I'm home, I rent it "On Demand" from my cable company. If it's not On Demand, I just wait till it is. I don't do Netflix or rent movies through video stores anymore. Too much trouble for me. I LOVE having the on demand cable feature as I don't have to return anything, ever.

So, for me, it's Blu-ray, Shmoo-ray. I could care less about it and am surprised that so many people are so angry that the new iMacs don't have it already in it. I have never watched a movie on a computer and probably never will. I have a TV for that. If I want to watch BluRay, I guess I'll just buy a machine and hook it up to my TV, old school style.

Am I the only one that could care less about Blu-ray? It certainly wouldn't have been a deal breaker in me getting my new iMac! Even with the 27" iMac I just got, it's still way too small for me to enjoy a movie at home. For that, I watch it on our TV. Much more comfortable on the couch in my family room or lying in bed late at night. Sitting in front of my computer would be the very last place I'd want to watch a movie.


To each his own,
Steve R
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ok so its only another attempt to spy on computers and what users are doing
by the movie industry, not that it would matter that with such deep control measures in the system the goverment could also take advantage of controlling your computer ..so if they are all that keen on spy on us why not implement teamviewer in the operating system that would make it a lot easier to control what everybody does
not that i had anything to hide , i just find it disturbing if a industry like the movie indusrie or the goverment asumes every computer users is a potential thread to the society and a criminal .. was there not a law or something that said unguilty until proven guilty? it seems it has changed to guilty until you can prove you are not



and you cant store data without reading it on a blue ray disc so you can play movies once you have a reader writer or cant you?
 
at2wells said:
I JUST NOW, posted this over on another thread, and Ill re-preint it here since its a little more pertinent to this thread:

This is the best thing I have seen posted on this site since I joined and made the switch from PC to Mac one week ago. I, for the life of me, cant understand why people want to watch movies on their computer. For me, my Mac is in my "office", its where I do work and surf the net. I also do some Pages and Numbers work on it now. So I wouldnt be watching a movie, regardless of its format, here on this Mac. I would take my happy backside through the door on my right and watch it on my 40 in the bedroom, or oh no! all the way down stairs where I have the blu ray hooked to the big daddy. I dont mean to bash everyone, I understand the Hd camcorder and wanting to rip home videos on blu ray quality, but for the most part that isnt what people have been complaining about it for. Can anyone explain why they want to sit in front of their computer to watch DVD's?
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I fall in this same category. While Blu-ray would be nice to have (any added feature is a good feature when it comes to Apple) it's certainly not a deal breaker. On the other hand we have people who do professional video stuff and might want to shoot, edit and burn HD work to blu-ray disk. I mean, it can't hurt to have it.
 
RexTraverse said:
It is by no means a deal-breaker for me, but here are some key points from a consumer standpoint:

- The quality of video from streamed, upconverted, and/or overcompressed sources (like cable, DSS, iTunes, and OnDemand) is, in my opinion, flat out bad. Maybe not an issue for everyone, where good enough is (uh...) good enough. But for some of us, it's not acceptable.

- For those of us who have made the switch (I switched to Blu-ray about 2 years ago. Have a pair of 1080p TVs in my house - 52" in the living room and 37" in the bedroom), we don't buy DVDs anymore. And yes, there are occasions where we might want to have a disc playing on our computers. Which leads to...

- With the introduction of the 27" iMac, Apple is making a pretty strong statement about their machines being more than just a computer. For people
living in small spaces - dorms, city apartments, etc..., their computers might
be their sole entertainment source. My four years in college, a 19" Trinitron CRT monitor (at the time, that was ridiculously huge) was my DVD player, TV, entertainment center all in one. Also, some people might have their Macs in a home office and want to be able to just throw a movie in the background or over lunch or something.

- and of course, the professional reasons like Blu-ray authoring. I'm sure media professionals would like to see the final product on the machine they used to make the product.

I just don't understand this "I don't need it, so no one needs it" mentality that pops up on things like this. If some people want it, why so threatened by giving people choice? Look at matte vs. glossy... the universe didn't explode when Apple decided to offer a matte (sorry... "anti-glare") option on the unibodies. And things that Apple throws into
most Macs like Bluetooth and the iSight... I don't think I've used either of those in years but I'm not gonna go around saying they're stupid and Apple should get rid of them because I don't use them.
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THANK YOU!! I don't even know why this thread was created. There must be at least 10 blu-Ray related threads that all say the same thing. "We don't need BR ... But wait I really want it ... But you don't need it, remember the downloads ... But I really want it and I create HD content too ... Blah blah blah.

I happen to be in the I want BR camp but also understand we'll get it when apple's good and ready (if ever).

Those of us who want BR on the Mac will need to buy it separately and use windows in bootcamp for now.
 
It isn't worth crying about... Anything that they add with native support will be supported well. If they do not add it then there must be a reason.
 
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