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which maybe makes it more secure
Doesn't seem to be the case in the real world
Newly discovered Android malware has infected thousands of devices

Just googling this: how bad malware is on android presents you with pages and pages of directions in removing malware from your android phone

Googling the same thing but for the iPhone "how bad malware is on iphone" presents questions about can you get malware not how to remove it.

Its quite clear that using android presents significantly higher risks in malware. To put it another way, android is less secure.
 
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Could Apple just fix my FCP language bug? It is so annoying, something so simple, yet complex, yet not important enough..Grrrh...
 
I too have been lured by the siren song of higher spec hardware at lower prices, and while there are some obvious price gouging practices Apple engages in (the high cost of RAM and storage upgrades mainly), the fact is that every single time I’ve gotten a Windows machine instead of an Apple, I’ve hated it. Windows has been and remains awful, the build quality is generally not as good as Apple (or it’s so heavily overbuilt that it’s not easily usable as a transportable device for the laptops), and all of those “better specs” still result in a worse experience. Ultimately I don’t care how much “better” those other computers are if I hate using them!

Linux is way better than Windows but still not nearly as smooth (to me) and robust as Mac OS, which I know is also UNIX under the hood but Mac has customized it so much that it’s not an experience I can easily replicate on Linux.

Android is a no go for me because of Google. No company is truly good but at this point Google is actively evil (along with Facebook, Amazon, and Twitter). And even if I loved google, every time I use Android I enjoy it less than I enjoy using my iPhone. And Android tablets, no thanks.

I’ve been using Macs since the 1990s and nothing since then has convinced me there’s a better option.
 
Ok, I say it, I hate being told what to do all the time!! I would like to set up my laptop the way I feel best works for me, to have the option to "hide" features and to delete/uninstall/not install certain apps and features, I want to have control of the laptop, so that it works for me...

I am tired of having useless companies that don't care making the decisions for me. It is so 32bit and has no place in a 64bit system, sick of it!
 
I am right there with you OP. I would say I made the decision like two years ago. I will share some of my story here. People can see how long I have been a member here and my post history.

I used to be all Apple for many years. It was, simply put, the best option for software and hardware, both in mobile and computers. Everything was clean, smooth, lag-free, beautifully designed, elegant, easy-to-use, "just works", and all those other buzz words. That is simply not the case these days, and I think anyone with an open mind and has tried different platforms, will agree. I used to use a MBP all the time (both in laptop mode and hooked up to an external 144hz monitor). I think I fell out with macOS when they redesigned it. I don't even remember what version that was, but while it looked sexy in pictures, once I used it in real life, I was not a fan. Gone were the sleek, smooth, and unobtrusive UI elements. Now we have big, bloated UI all over macOS. Window title bars are THICK and there is wasted space everywhere. And to make matters worse, it is just SLOW. I try macOS again from time to time and I instantly feel like I am trying to get work done while wadding through mud. Window management is abysmal (unless you use a third part app which usually cost money - another annoyance of macOS at this point, everything is a "just buy this app"), animations are sluggish, preview lags just opening up a preview of a pdf, safari has to reload tabs if you have more than like 5 open at a time and leave for a bit and come back, I can't use uBlock Origin with Safari, iMessage constantly is out of sync with iMessage on my iPhone, it is LAGGY when trying to quickly view shared media in iMessage (also a problem on iOS), gaming is abysmal (no, Apple Silicon did not and will not solve this problem), macOS never remembered where my windows were placed when hooked to an external display, trying to use a mouse with macOS is annoying (cue the "just use the Magic Trackpad" crowd), and the list just goes on and on. I don't want to hear that this is because I need a new Mac either or that Apple Silicon fixed that. I had a M1 Max 16" MBP, and it was the same. It is just the UI and UX of macOS is BLOATED now. Not to mention the pricing is getting insane (RAM upgrades).

Compare this to Windows 11 and it is a night and day difference. I use a Windows 11 PC at work and a custom-built Windows 11 PC at home, and the UI is just out of the way and lightning fast. Everything is SNAPPY (especially on a 144hz monitor). I am way more efficient with a keyboard and mouse again than I ever was with a trackpad. I don't have to think about if something works with Windows or not. The support goes so far back I can run anything. I can have a clean desktop just like on macOS and debloat everything and turn off all telemetry. Edge is way better than Safari because I can use a real adblocker, and it doesn't crash pages EVER. Also, never had webpages not work on Edge. I have had several websites not load correctly or work on Safari. Windows management is as easy as drag to the edge or a keyboard shortcut. There are multiple window layouts built right into the maximize button on a hover over. It is like a swiss army knife. I can play any game I want. I use Everything search and it blows away Spotlight, instantly finding any file on my PC or cloud storage. I can integrate it right into windows search and search with one key (windows key) instead of two (cmd + spacebar). Miss Preview? I use QuickLook on windows and it is even better. Previews files INSTANTLY with a hit of spacebar. I will say out the box macOS can still do more with PDFs easier, but Edge has some good PDF tools built in, or I use a cracked version of PDF-Xchage Editor and it has it all. Hell, even the calculator on windows is better than on macOS.

I don't want to hear either that "yea windows is better because you are on a desktop!". I have a 16" intel MBP that I use Windows on in bootcamp and it is still snappier than my macOS side.

But now we come to the mobile side of things...

I still think the iPhone is the best, but barely. I recently tried a S23 and I was VERY close to switching but I just couldn't. iOS is still the place with the BEST designed apps and support for pretty much everything. It is still smooth (it's getting worse though), and just keeps running. Camera is still top notch. The cracks are starting to show though. The keyboard is becoming way worse, Apple's own apps are becoming bug ridden and bloated with ugly UI and UX and Apple is all about pushing subscription services now to make more recurring revenue. This is where the problem comes in. They still try to lure you in with their sexy and clean native apps and services, and if you fall into it, then you think "well I want to use these on my computer too" and you start thinking you want to switch to macOS, despite all those flaws I listed above. But the software is seriously degrading. The other day I was going to a simple house address 20 mins from my home, in a very open and noncomplicated area. I tried Apple Maps. It took me to the wrong street and the wrong house. Google Maps nailed it. This is not the first time either and I live in the midwest. Apple Maps doesn't even show a famous lighthouse, while Google does. But again, Apple Maps LOOKS nicer, so they lure you in, making you want to use it. But the data is crap compared to Google. The same goes for Apple Music, Mail, Reminders, Weather (jesus, this one is wrong almost every day), iMessage (Telegram is light years ahead of iMessage in features and UI/UX), and others.

Anyway, this is getting long winded so I will just say this:

At this point I am completely back in with Windows 11 and custom built PC's or nice laptops, and I will continue to use the iPhone for now. However, I am almost completely switched away from Apple's services to decrease the lock-in effect. I actually find Microsoft has been upping their game with software and services. I use OneDrive for work across my devices easily, I use Tidal and Plex instead of Apple Music, I use Outlook on my iPhone and PC and it works way better than Mail ever did, I use Edge primarily for my browser on every device (still use Safari on my iPhone sometimes), I use Google Maps primarily over Apple Maps, I use Microsoft To Do reminders so I can use it on my phone and PC's. I still have a lot of information in Apple Notes but I have been dabbling with Standard Notes.
 
OP's story resonates quite a bit with me too. I was an Apple die-hard once upon a time. Started life in the DOS/Win 3.11 days and then replaced that with a Power Mac 6400/180 in 1997. Was a die-hard Mac user for a good decade, even spending much of that time period working at an Apple specialty store in my city. Like OP, I loved how clean and stable the Mac seemed compared to Win 95/98/ME in that era. Mac OS X was a beaut compared to XP.

When I graduated university, I had started working at a Windows-based shop, and was assigned a laptop (running XP at the time). Still used my Macs at home for the most part. I still had Macs in the house and had continued buying Macs until the late 00's. I had once proudly said that I had not ever paid for a Windows computer. I still felt like my Macs were far nicer to work on.

Then my first upgrade-cycle happened at work and I was handed a laptop with a shiny-new install of Windows 7.

At that point, the user experience, security and stability of Windows caught up to the Mac OS. There was no longer a usability gap between the two operating systems. iPhoto was really the only "killer app" left on the Macs, and my wife was the only person regularly using that program. On the other hand, I found a Windows to be a lot less of a compromise when it came to software, even some of the software I used on the Mac (ahem - Excel).

When it came time to start upgrading my desktop in the early 2010's, Apple's didn't offer anything of value for what I wanted or needed. The choice for a stand-alone machine was either a) the Mac Mini which was underpowered garbage, or b) the Mac Pro which was incredibly over-priced for any use-case that wasn't professional video editing, CAD, or photoshop. So I decided to build a PC. For the price of an entry-level iMac, I was able to build a machine that was far, far more powerful than anything in the iMac line. And I was able to make that machine last for nine years. (ETA: That machine is still running but in a different case - currently operating as my son's Minecraft Server).

In the decade or so that I moved completely to running a PC, I have looked at Apple machines to see if there are any compelling reasons to go back. The battery life on the new Mx laptops are nice and are probably their one killer feature. And the aluminum chassis are certainly pretty (I know a lot of fanatics in here equate aluminum with "good build quality". Honestly, the Dell machines I've been given from work over the years have been incredibly well built, and having a pretty aluminum shell on a desktop monitor is, well, superfluous to say the least). All in all, though, the Mac really still sticks out to me as a massive set of compromises for a few niceities. I won't be switching back any time soon.
 
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Great post! Agree with so much of that!

I use and enjoy both Windows 11 and macOS Monterey for now, since I can, with my Hackintosh + 2015 15" MBP. I will ride this for the foreseeable future. It's so great to have options!

Current macOS (Sonoma) is such a bloated pig at this point -- I think folks that don't ever poke around don't quite understand how bad it has gotten -- and certainly they may not realize it if they weren't around for mid 2000's Mac OS X
 
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When it came time to start upgrading my desktop in the early 2010's, Apple's didn't offer anything of value for what I wanted or needed. The choice for a stand-alone machine was either a) the Mac Mini which was underpowered garbage, or b) the Mac Pro which was incredibly over-priced for any use-case that wasn't professional video editing, CAD, or photoshop. So I decided to build a PC.

That's right when I decided to build my first Hackintosh

First one was a bit overly complex and I did a new one in 2016 (IIRC) and I've been using variations on that hardware ever since. Incredible longevity and the ability to tweak it and upgrade it as time has gone on ... (chefs kiss!)

With it running Monterey absolutely brilliantly -- 100% native on all features and lightning fast -- I could see myself on this for a long long time (hardware lifespane willing!)
 
Both of which I prefer over macOS "System Settings", which still feels like some kind of bad port from iOS

Call me a Luddite if you wish, but OMG do I love having SysPrefs back on Monterey
OK, by all means: You're a Luddite.

But this is totally right. The utter horribleness of System Settings is beyond doubt the most egregious mess Apple have made of what was otherwise a competent product.
 
Its still a repeat vestige though which is bad software design. See also camera shortcuts on the iOS lockscreen.
It's real-world software design. Companies have to balance priorities, and being slow at moving features that work perfectly well in the Control Panel to make them pretty in the Settings app is something I would consider pretty low priority. I'd much rather Microsoft continue working on improving other functional aspects of the OS rather than making it look slightly more pretty when I want to uninstall a program.
 
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But for me macOS is much better than Windows.
It's not that it's better than Windows. It's that it's so much better than Windows that it makes conversations like this a joke. I have 2 Macs and 1 PC at my desk and need to use all of them daily. But if I actually had to work on Windows, I'd find a new career instead. Windows is a joke.

No matter how far Apple falls under Tim Cook's leadership, they started out so high that it makes almost no practical difference. They could never far fall enough to actually be worse than the alternative.
 
That's right when I decided to build my first Hackintosh
That was my original plan with my desktop at the time as well. I was going to have all three major OS's on it: Win, Linux (Fedora at the time, now I run Ubuntu on this machine, but still have an old desktop running Fedora as a glorified karaoke machine), and MacOS. I just never got around to installing Mac OS.
With it running Monterey absolutely brilliantly -- 100% native on all features and lightning fast -- I could see myself on this for a long long time (hardware lifespane willing!)
Now you have me thinking I should do some experimenting. :)
 
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Now you have me thinking I should do some experimenting. :)

I'm tellin' ya man -- I hadn't gone "back" on macOS versions recently and even I had forgotten how much it keeps getting worse each year

Exact same hardware -- Ventura forever, then Sonoma for a while ... now back to Monterey -- Monterey is absolutely the best of the bunch for me. I hesitate to go back much further due to my iCloud, Photos and iMessage usage ... and I think I might run into issues if I want to keep an RX 6600 long term (vs my current iGPU + RTX situation) -- I haven't decided on that yet. NVMe support finally got really bulletproof on Monterey also
 
A ton of us really longtime Apple users resonate with the OP
Yep. If it weren't for the fact that I think Microsoft is just as bad as Apple–and in some ways like privacy much worse–I would switch platforms myself. The main thing I think would concern Apple is the alienation of their own customer base. I use Apple, but I don't like them anymore, and find myself actively rooting for the EU and (long shot) American regulators to slap them hard enough that they actually pay attention to the regulations being passed in direct response to their practices.

I'm old enough to remember the smug arrogance that Microsoft had towards law, competition and fair play back in the 90s. No one hated that Microsoft more than Steve Jobs and Mac users, but the Apple of today looks a lot like them.
 
To each their own I guess. I'm mostly Apple except for my gaming rig and my workstation at work. You don't need new everything. One great thing about Apple devices is longevity - I guarantee my M1 Pro MacBook Pro will still be amazing in a few years while you're shopping to replace those laptops you just bought. There's something to be said about the ladder, but amortized over the life of the device it ends up being pretty good.
 
I use Apple, but I don't like them anymore, and find myself actively rooting for the EU and (long shot) American regulators to slap them hard enough that they actually pay attention to the regulations being passed in direct response to their practices.

I'm old enough to remember the smug arrogance that Microsoft had towards law, competition and fair play back in the 90s. No one hated that Microsoft more than Steve Jobs and Mac users, but the Apple of today looks a lot like them.

I feel exactly the same as you and definitely was there for the MS 90's

I'm pretty sure a ton of current Apple defenders were not, because if they were, they'd remember and recognize all this much more clearly.
 
There's something to be said about the ladder, but amortized over the life of the device it ends up being pretty good.

Mac are so overpriced at MSRP that it negates a ton of the "resale value" argument right out of the gate.

Base model M's just languish on the preowned market .. BTO ones sell, but the original buyer got absolutely GOUGED to buy them to begin with..

And on trade in pricing ... LMFAO -- Apple treats BTO upgrades as though they never happened
To me I just see extortion up and down the Apple "ladder" these days.

Better resale value is much less appealing when you got totally ripped off on the buy side

I've always maintained that you make your great deal on the buy side (on most all products really)

To me the smart Apple money is on buying lightly preowned (sort of like cars) and let the original buyer have their shorts ripped off instead
 
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