Can Apple close the gap to the S6's hardware?

[I7guy]

The iPhone 6 camera pickiness and inconsistent clarity and quality is well spoken about here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1790221/

In blind photo comparisons the iPhone 6 also comes in behind the S6 more often than not.

I'm not talking about blind comparisons, though. I'm discussing a specific compare with lots of pictures; and some of these pictures back-up my comments.

As for the other comments and one poster who you quoted -- could be hardware. Who knows? And more importantly why dig up one person having issues?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I'm not talking about blind comparisons, though. I'm discussing a specific compare with lots of pictures; and some of these pictures back-up my comments.

That doesn't make sense. A blind test is always better as it takes the bias away.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

The camera on my iPhone 6 is great and I regularly print to albums. You can get too picky with phone cameras going over every detail to find fault but in truth most are pretty good. To date I've had no issues with quality or colour representation. Are other phones better technically? Most probably, is it important to my user experience? Not really because it's more than good enough.

 

[I7guy]

That doesn't make sense. A blind test is always better as it takes the bias away.

Sure, I can backup about blown highlights that's concrete; flat and muted is an opinion. But either way I said it was my opinion and why.

Your comment reminds me of those blind tests where folgers instant was served.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Sure, I can backup about blown highlights that's concrete; flat and muted is an opinion. But either way I said it was my opinion and why.

Your comment reminds me of those blind tests where folgers instant was served.

I miss the smiley with the question marks above it's head.

 

[I7guy]

I miss the smiley with the question marks above it's head.

Well, you may not be old enough (or maybe you are...I don't know) to remember the tv commercials, where in an exclusive restaurant two patrons order coffee and instead of the restaurants special brew, folgers instant was served and the two unsuspecting restaurant goers never suspected a thing. Now that commercial can be interpreted any which way with one way being the patrons don't know coffee, but I am making an allegory to the efficacy of some of these "blind tests".

 

[jamezr]

I'm not talking about blind comparisons, though. I'm discussing a specific compare with lots of pictures; and some of these pictures back-up my comments.



As for the other comments and one poster who you quoted -- could be hardware. Who knows? And more importantly why dig up one person having issues?

Why would you not want a blind test!! It is the most accurate test. No predisposed biases. You pick the winner on quality.

 

[Michael Goff]

Why would you not want a blind test!! It is the most accurate test. No predisposed biases. You pick the winner on quality.

Let's be honest with ourselves. If the iP6 had won on blind tests, he'd be trumpeting them.

 

[I7guy]

Why would you not want a blind test!! It is the most accurate test. No predisposed biases. You pick the winner on quality.

I already did if you looked at the article posted.

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Let's be honest with ourselves. If the iP6 had won on blind tests, he'd be trumpeting them.

Let's really be honest. It doesn't really matter as this is all opinion anyway. Both phone sales are not going in any meaningful direction as a result of the information in this thread.

 

[epicrayban]

"None of these discussions matter, but I'm going to post here anyway."

If nothing matters then your concern about nothing mattering doesn't matter either. So why bother discussing anything? Either these discussions do matter leading to your participation, or it's just easy to say nothing matters when you've lost credibility.

Every time your points hit a wall, none of these discussions matter!

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Let's be honest with ourselves. If the iP6 had won on blind tests, he'd be trumpeting them.

No doubt! This 100%.

Apple is like religion: they get all the praise for the good things, but take none of the responsibilities for the bad.

 

[I7guy]

"None of these discussions matter, but I'm going to post here anyway."

If nothing matters then your concern about nothing mattering doesn't matter either. So why bother discussing anything? Either these discussions do matter leading to your participation, or it's just easy to say nothing matters when you've lost credibility.

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No doubt! This 100%.

Apple is like religion: they get all the praise for the good things, but take none of the responsibilities for the bad.

Do you understand why I gave the response I did? Or are you going to quote one sentence and then make up something up?

 

[epicrayban]

That doesn't make sense. A blind test is always better as it takes the bias away.

Absolutely this. But there's no taking the bias out of certain people.

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PS. I own both the s6 and the iPhone 6. Both are great cameras. Top of their leagues. The s6 is better. Both spec wise and quality wise.

It would seem in this case, specs matter.

 

[Michael Goff]

"None of these discussions matter, but I'm going to post here anyway."

If nothing matters then your concern about nothing mattering doesn't matter either. So why bother discussing anything? Either these discussions do matter leading to your participation, or it's just easy to say nothing matters when you've lost credibility.

Every time your points hit a wall, none of these discussions matter!

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No doubt! This 100%.

Apple is like religion: they get all the praise for the good things, but take none of the responsibilities for the bad.

It isn't just Apple, technology makes zealots.

 

[pappy53]

Absolutely this. But there's no taking the bias out of certain people.

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PS. I own both the s6 and the iPhone 6. Both are great cameras. Top of their leagues. The s6 is better. Both spec wise and quality wise.

It would seem in this case, specs matter.

You're not serious? LOL!

 

[skratch77]

Some gs6s have samsung cameras and some have sonys

So depending on the review site and what camera the gs6 had makes a difference on pictures.

My gs6 takes great pictures and has the Sony camera vs the isocell samsung camera.

So blind tests do matter because you can even have 2 gs6s with different cameras taking different pictures.

 

[jamezr]

Let's be honest with ourselves. If the iP6 had won on blind tests, he'd be trumpeting them.

Ding ding ding we have a winner!! He only likes the blind test if his phone wins!

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Some gs6s have samsung cameras and some have sonys



So depending on the review site and what camera the gs6 had makes a difference on pictures.



My gs6 takes great pictures and has the Sony camera vs the isocell samsung camera.



So blind tests do matter because you can even have 2 gs6s with different cameras taking different pictures.

Great points. The only people the don't blind tests are the losers.

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You're not serious? LOL!

Why some people here have both phones. Which one do you have? How did you do your comparison? Most people that have both phones along with most if not all the reviews say the S6 camera is better.

 

[apolloa]

Some gs6s have samsung cameras and some have sonys

So depending on the review site and what camera the gs6 had makes a difference on pictures.

My gs6 takes great pictures and has the Sony camera vs the isocell samsung camera.

So blind tests do matter because you can even have 2 gs6s with different cameras taking different pictures.

Do you have any proof of that because so far as I know they only use Sony sensors as does Apple, or are you referring to different specs for different markets?

 

[skratch77]

Do you have any proof of that because so far as I know they only use Sony sensors as does Apple, or are you referring to different specs for different markets?

It's all over xda forums
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s6-features-either-isocell-or-sony-cameras-606222/

 

[apolloa]

It's all over xda forums
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s6-features-either-isocell-or-sony-cameras-606222/

Thanks, very strange thing to do? Sony can't keep up with the demand I guess? I would prefer the Sony sensor if it was me but you won't know which one is in which phone.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I own both the s6 and the iPhone 6. Both are great cameras. Top of their leagues. The s6 is better. Both spec wise and quality wise.



It would seem in this case, specs matter.

I would expect the S6 to have a better camera technically as its a newer device. This is tit for tat though as you will never get a perfect image from a camera phone. Good enough as a point and shoot for general use of course. The iPhone 6 takes a good picture overall, slightly less saturated than rivals but this can be altered for any device. I edit nearly every photo I take to adjust levels and that would not be different with any phone I use. The difference here is certainly not significant from any of the reviews and tests I have seen.

 

[I7guy]

Absolutely this. But there's no taking the bias out of certain people.

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PS. I own both the s6 and the iPhone 6. Both are great cameras. Top of their leagues. The s6 is better. Both spec wise and quality wise.

It would seem in this case, specs matter.

As a part-time photographer I know what I like, if that is your definition of bias...so be it. Bias is also the other way around, demonstrated aptly.

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It isn't just Apple, technology makes zealots.

edited: yes it does as does all internet forum.

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Ding ding ding we have a winner!! He only likes the blind test if his phone wins!

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Great points. The only people the don't blind tests are the losers.

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Why some people here have both phones. Which one do you have? How did you do your comparison? Most people that have both phones along with most if not all the reviews say the S6 camera is better.

Hmmm. Nice try, but not really. Seems like there's a bit of denial when presented with evidence.

 

[Michael Goff]

As a part-time photographer I know what I like, if that is your definition of bias...so be it.

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And Samsung doesn't?

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Hmmm. Nice try, but not really. Seems like there's a bit of denial when presented with evidence.

I said "technology" as a general thing. Apple, Samsung, Google, Microsoft. Seriously, did you mean to quote me?

Edit: Also, yes, saying "what I like is best" is bias.

 

[I7guy]

I said "technology" as a general thing. Apple, Samsung, Google, Microsoft. Seriously, did you mean to quote me?

Edit: Also, yes, saying "what I like is best" is bias.

Actually you are correct and in that sense...sorry. that little edit window with all of the forum formatting, I misinterpreted.

What I should have said is zealots abound on almost every internet forum and certainly here is no different. And you are right, is just not the consumers.

 

[Michael Goff]

Actually you are correct and in that sense...sorry. that little edit window with all of the forum formatting, I misinterpreted.

What I should have said is zealots abound on almost every internet forum and certainly here is no different. And you are right, is just not the consumers.

Go back ten or fifteen years, and you'd likely have arguments over calculator brands from some people. It's a thing that happens. The differentiator is that the Internet allows these groups to combine into bigger groups and argue more with others.

Edit: No reason to apologize, these things happen.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

As a part-time photographer I know what I like, if that is your definition of bias...so be it. Bias is also the other way around, demonstrated aptly.

I'm a part time photographer too and I don't think there is an unbiased one on the planet. You have to be biased as its such a creative process. I've seen people argue almost to the death over Nikon vs Canon and which is better. The truth is neither is better but there are differences in the results and people have preferences. It's the same with modern phones really too. We know what we like and others apply their preferences to the argument to tell you you're wrong. Specs also matter to some whereas software is key for others. I don't think there is any right answer lol.